[US Election 2016] Democratic Primary Megathread II

[Trumpostan]

Wait until the Republicans host a permanent seance so Scalia can continue to serve on the Supreme Court from beyond the grave.

Too late.

Some Republicans want Scalia to vote from beyond the grave.

No. Seriously.

We can’t help but point out the irony that von Spakovsky has been one of the primary drivers of the myth that massive voter fraud requires suppressive laws that make it harder to vote. One of the voter-fraud specters he has raised is that of people casting votes on behalf of people who have died. - See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/h ... 0WknL.dpuf

On one condition. That Paul Wellstone, John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, George McGovern, Hubert Humphrey, Harry Truman, Henry Wallace ea also get their Senate voting rights restored. After all, leaving office and dying can't be a reason to not have their votes count, right?

[Trumpostan]

Too late.

Some Republicans want Scalia to vote from beyond the grave.

No. Seriously.

It's a lifetime appointment, it ends when the life ends. Zombies cannot serve continue the term from when they were living.

Don't get them started on the sanctity of life and zombies. It isn't dead when it's moving.

I have visions of Karl Rove frantically trying to shock life back into Scalia's corpse, Frankenstein-style.

[Northern Davincia]

I'm really not sure who I dislike more between Clinton and Sanders, but I guess my hope is that Slick Willie can bend Hillary's ear towards some policies that have actually borne fruit economically rather than what either of these two are talking about.

they both have economic plans that would be 1. great for the economy, especially when compared to the republican plan of cutting taxes on the 2. rich.

1. Terrible
2. Everyone

Almost all statistics show that the majority of the 'rich' are small business owners.
What do you have against small businesses that create the most jobs in America?

[Wallenburg]

President Obama is Closing Guantanamo Bay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R5A0pg4oN8

[Wallenburg]

Almost all statistics show that the majority of the 'rich' are small business owners.
What do you have against small businesses that create the most jobs in America?

That's total bullshit.

[USS Monitor]

It's a lifetime appointment, it ends when the life ends. Zombies cannot serve continue the term from when they were living.

Don't get them started on the sanctity of life and zombies. It isn't dead when it's moving.

I have visions of Karl Rove frantically trying to shock life back into Scalia's corpse, Frankenstein-style.

Can we bring Lincoln back while we're at it? I miss him.

[Idzequitch]

Don't get them started on the sanctity of life and zombies. It isn't dead when it's moving.

I have visions of Karl Rove frantically trying to shock life back into Scalia's corpse, Frankenstein-style.

Can we bring Lincoln back while we're at it? I miss him.

As long as we forget about these vampire hunter shenanigans.

[Galactic Russian Empire]

Don't get them started on the sanctity of life and zombies. It isn't dead when it's moving.

I have visions of Karl Rove frantically trying to shock life back into Scalia's corpse, Frankenstein-style.

Can we bring Lincoln back while we're at it? I miss him.

And he never technically served his second term.
But, in all fairness, if we're reviving presidents, we should start with Harrison.

[USS Monitor]

Can we bring Lincoln back while we're at it? I miss him.

As long as we forget about these vampire hunter shenanigans.

But we can't let the vampires win...

[Trumpostan]

Don't get them started on the sanctity of life and zombies. It isn't dead when it's moving.

I have visions of Karl Rove frantically trying to shock life back into Scalia's corpse, Frankenstein-style.

Can we bring Lincoln back while we're at it? I miss him.

Thaddeus Stevens, for his colorful rhetoric

[USS Monitor]

Can we bring Lincoln back while we're at it? I miss him.

Thaddeus Stevens, for his colorful rhetoric

OMG, that would be great. I bet he'd enjoy it too.

[New Giliberafta]

Don't get them started on the sanctity of life and zombies. It isn't dead when it's moving.

I have visions of Karl Rove frantically trying to shock life back into Scalia's corpse, Frankenstein-style.

Can we bring Lincoln back while we're at it? I miss him.

Nah

Lincoln's white supremacy may be a problem

[Northern Davincia]

Almost all statistics show that the majority of the 'rich' are small business owners.
What do you have against small businesses that create the most jobs in America?

That's total bullshit.

Well, my friend, you are incorrect. The 1%, considered by Democrats to be entirely composed of the mega-rich, take only $390,000 to find themselves in their respective bracket. Hardly the 'millionaire and billionaire' class Sanders harps on about. Following that, the top 5% earn a modest average of $232,000. Both of these groups are responsible for the continued survival of small, job-creating businesses.
http://www.barbaraweltman.com/small-bus ... the-top-1/

[Wallenburg]

That's total bullshit.

Well, my friend, you are incorrect. The 1%, considered by Democrats to be entirely composed of the mega-rich, take only $390,000 to find themselves in their respective bracket. Hardly the 'millionaire and billionaire' class Sanders harps on about. Following that, the top 5% earn a modest average of $232,000. Both of these groups are responsible for the continued survival of small, job-creating businesses.
http://www.barbaraweltman.com/small-bus ... the-top-1/

Yeah...I checked that, and it fabricates information. Furthermore, $390,000 as an annual salary is a very hefty income. My family is fairly well-off, and we have four people living on about $100,000 a year. Three to four times that much is very upper-class.

[Ashmoria]

they both have economic plans that would be 1. great for the economy, especially when compared to the republican plan of cutting taxes on the 2. rich.

1. Terrible
2. Everyone

Almost all statistics show that the majority of the 'rich' are small business owners.
What do you have against small businesses that create the most jobs in America?

the evidence that you are wrong is that the economy is better in democratic administrations than republican ones.

oh sure they do want a small cut in regular people's taxes but ...since the rich are the ones that make all the money they get most of the tax cuts. marco rubio's plan, for example, would have zero tax on investment earnings.

[New South Wellington]

Now, im an evil republican so take my words with a grain of salt, but ill give you my take on the issue. Bernie may seem like the perfect canidate, but you gotta realize that hr could NEVER win the general election. Although many republicans hate hillary with a passion, their hatred for her pales in comparison to the gargantuan disgust that not just republicans, but moderates and liberatarians as well. The moment he declared himself a socialist, he doomed his presidential bid. Even against (i shudder to say it)Donald Trump (who i hate more than anyone else in the world, all you book-cover judges) the voter turnout against bernie would be astronomical. Also, Hillary has the support of the moderates, and could beat trump before he could even get out a derogatory ad hominem attack on (insert random minority)

[Ashmoria]

Now, im an evil republican so take my words with a grain of salt, but ill give you my take on the issue. Bernie may seem like the perfect canidate, but you gotta realize that hr could NEVER win the general election. Although many republicans hate hillary with a passion, their hatred for her pales in comparison to the gargantuan disgust that not just republicans, but moderates and liberatarians as well. The moment he declared himself a socialist, he doomed his presidential bid. Even against (i shudder to say it)Donald Trump (who i hate more than anyone else in the world, all you book-cover judges) the voter turnout against bernie would be astronomical. Also, Hillary has the support of the moderates, and could beat trump before he could even get out a derogatory ad hominem attack on (insert random minority)

hey if you are an evil republican maybe you just posted because you WANT us to drop Bernie and support Hillary who is the REAL person you think has the best chance to win. ...or maybe its a double double and you want us to think that because BERNIE really IS the person you think has the best chance to win but you think that we'll think that you would only ever try to pull a normal evil republican move...or maybe its a TRIPLE and you know that we can think that far so you think a level farther yet....

or maybe BOTH cups contain iocane powder!

[Galloism]

Now, im an evil republican so take my words with a grain of salt, but ill give you my take on the issue. Bernie may seem like the perfect canidate, but you gotta realize that hr could NEVER win the general election. Although many republicans hate hillary with a passion, their hatred for her pales in comparison to the gargantuan disgust that not just republicans, but moderates and liberatarians as well. The moment he declared himself a socialist, he doomed his presidential bid. Even against (i shudder to say it)Donald Trump (who i hate more than anyone else in the world, all you book-cover judges) the voter turnout against bernie would be astronomical. Also, Hillary has the support of the moderates, and could beat trump before he could even get out a derogatory ad hominem attack on (insert random minority)

hey if you are an evil republican maybe you just posted because you WANT us to drop Bernie and support Hillary who is the REAL person you think has the best chance to win. ...or maybe its a double double and you want us to think that because BERNIE really IS the person you think has the best chance to win but you think that we'll think that you would only ever try to pull a normal evil republican move...or maybe its a TRIPLE and you know that we can think that far so you think a level farther yet....

or maybe BOTH cups contain iocane powder!

This is an American election. We could have twenty cups and they would all contain varying doses of iocane powder.

[Ashmoria]

hey if you are an evil republican maybe you just posted because you WANT us to drop Bernie and support Hillary who is the REAL person you think has the best chance to win. ...or maybe its a double double and you want us to think that because BERNIE really IS the person you think has the best chance to win but you think that we'll think that you would only ever try to pull a normal evil republican move...or maybe its a TRIPLE and you know that we can think that far so you think a level farther yet....

or maybe BOTH cups contain iocane powder!

This is an American election. We could have twenty cups and they would all contain varying doses of iocane powder.

oh yeah. nevermind.

[Northern Davincia]

1. Terrible
2. Everyone

Almost all statistics show that the majority of the 'rich' are small business owners.
What do you have against small businesses that create the most jobs in America?

the evidence that you are wrong is that the economy is better in democratic administrations than republican ones.

oh sure they do want a small cut in regular people's taxes but ...since the rich are the ones that make all the money they get most of the tax cuts. marco rubio's plan, for example, would have zero tax on investment earnings.

There are many more factors in economic prosperity than political affiliation, but...
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... orse-citi/
The evidence does not state that I am wholly wrong.

[Conserative Morality]

There are many more factors in economic prosperity than political affiliation, but...
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... orse-citi/
The evidence does not state that I am wholly wrong.

Causation may actually run the opposite way.

It’s always important to remember that correlation does not necessarily mean causation. In this context, it’s not necessarily that Republican leadership creates greater equality, as Paul’s comment presumes. Rather, it could be that greater equality prompts people to vote Republican. Or it could be unrelated.

"I think it runs more in the direction that inequality provides conditions for Democratic success, rather than Democrats causing inequality," said Michael McDonald, a University of Florida political scientist who specializes in electoral patterns and geography. And any explanation other than political leadership causing greater equality weakens Paul’s point.

The pattern holds only if you look at cities, not metropolitan areas.

If you look at Kolko’s research -- which studied inequality in broader metropolitan areas, rather than in cities per se -- Paul’s pattern falls apart.

As of 2014, of the 10 metropolitan areas with the most equality, only one has a Republican mayor -- Colorado Springs. The other nine either have a Democratic mayor, a nonpartisan one, or no mayor at all because they’re an unincorporated area. This list includes Lakeland-Winter Haven, Fla.; Allentown, Pa.; Salt Lake City; Bethesda-Rockville-Frederick, Md., Tacoma, Wash.; Las Vegas; Cape Coral-Fort Myers, Fla.; Raleigh; and Palm Bay-Melbourne-Titusville, Fla.

Did you read your own article?

[Northern Davincia]

There are many more factors in economic prosperity than political affiliation, but...
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... orse-citi/
The evidence does not state that I am wholly wrong.

Causation may actually run the opposite way.

It’s always important to remember that correlation does not necessarily mean causation. In this context, it’s not necessarily that Republican leadership creates greater equality, as Paul’s comment presumes. Rather, it could be that greater equality prompts people to vote Republican. Or it could be unrelated.

"I think it runs more in the direction that inequality provides conditions for Democratic success, rather than Democrats causing inequality," said Michael McDonald, a University of Florida political scientist who specializes in electoral patterns and geography. And any explanation other than political leadership causing greater equality weakens Paul’s point.

The pattern holds only if you look at cities, not metropolitan areas.

If you look at Kolko’s research -- which studied inequality in broader metropolitan areas, rather than in cities per se -- Paul’s pattern falls apart.

As of 2014, of the 10 metropolitan areas with the most equality, only one has a Republican mayor -- Colorado Springs. The other nine either have a Democratic mayor, a nonpartisan one, or no mayor at all because they’re an unincorporated area. This list includes Lakeland-Winter Haven, Fla.; Allentown, Pa.; Salt Lake City; Bethesda-Rockville-Frederick, Md., Tacoma, Wash.; Las Vegas; Cape Coral-Fort Myers, Fla.; Raleigh; and Palm Bay-Melbourne-Titusville, Fla.

Did you read your own article?

Indeed I have.

"I think it runs more in the direction that inequality provides conditions for Democratic success, rather than Democrats causing inequality," said Michael McDonald, a University of Florida political scientist who specializes in electoral patterns and geography. And any explanation other than political leadership causing greater equality weakens Paul’s point.

I want to address this point first and foremost. If economic inequality provides conditions for Democratic success, one must wonder as to why said inequality is never dealt with once a Democrat sets themselves into office.

[Geilinor]

Did you read your own article?

Indeed I have.

"I think it runs more in the direction that inequality provides conditions for Democratic success, rather than Democrats causing inequality," said Michael McDonald, a University of Florida political scientist who specializes in electoral patterns and geography. And any explanation other than political leadership causing greater equality weakens Paul’s point.

I want to address this point first and foremost. If economic inequality provides conditions for Democratic success, one must wonder as to why said inequality is never dealt with once a Democrat sets themselves into office.

9/10 of the most equal metropolitan areas have Democratic mayors.

[Camicon]

Did you read your own article?

Indeed I have.

"I think it runs more in the direction that inequality provides conditions for Democratic success, rather than Democrats causing inequality," said Michael McDonald, a University of Florida political scientist who specializes in electoral patterns and geography. And any explanation other than political leadership causing greater equality weakens Paul’s point.

I want to address this point first and foremost. If economic inequality provides conditions for Democratic success, one must wonder as to why said inequality is never dealt with once a Democrat sets themselves into office.

That's not a logical assumption to make.

[Gauthier]

Indeed I have.

I want to address this point first and foremost. If economic inequality provides conditions for Democratic success, one must wonder as to why said inequality is never dealt with once a Democrat sets themselves into office.

That's not a logical assumption to make.

And it also ignores Repubican obstructionism.