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What should the US Senate do with the nomination of Merrick Garland?

Refuse to hold hearings on Garland's nomination
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Hold hearings but reject Garland's nomination
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Hold hearings and approve Garland's nomination
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Total votes : 144

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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:05 pm

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Hardly my party, and hardly something to cause their downfall. In case you missed it, America is starting the rightward swing in its political cycle.


How so? The Tea party's pretty much dead as the force it was in 2010, Gay Marriage is legal, and Obamacare is law. I don't see a right-ward swing happening.


We have a Republican majority congress, and will likely have a Republican President next year. American politics has historically cycled between left and right.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:06 pm

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Look back at all the appointments that went down in flames since 1900. It's 2. Not likely they can do it and get away without much political damage.


The political damage will be somewhat mitigated by our current swing towards the right.

Which current swing to the right? What makes you think the Republican gains in Congress will continue? It would take sheer incompetence for the Democrats to lose any seats.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:06 pm

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It is also their Constitutional duty to NOT confirm a candidate if they have sufficient reason to do so. Congress is not there to merely rubber-stamp the Presidents choice, any more than the President is there to rubber-stamp Congressional decisions. Really, Congress refusing to confirm a candidate is no different from the POS vetoing a bill he disagrees with.

Congresscritters announcing a refusal to confirm a specific candidate is one thing; congresscritters refusing to confirm any candidate, however, without regard to who it might be, is another. This is the latter case.


If Obama doesn't appoint someone too far left, congress will likely confirm them.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:07 pm

Geilinor wrote:
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It is also their Constitutional duty to NOT confirm a candidate if they have sufficient reason to do so. Congress is not there to merely rubber-stamp the Presidents choice, any more than the President is there to rubber-stamp Congressional decisions. Really, Congress refusing to confirm a candidate is no different from the POS vetoing a bill he disagrees with.

"We hate Obama!" is not a sufficient reason. They won't even vote on it.

can you blame them? the whole conservative agenda rests in the balance of the supreme court. if they delay until president cruz in sworn in they can keep things as they are now...or were yesterday.
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Postby Terminus Alpha » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:08 pm

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How so? The Tea party's pretty much dead as the force it was in 2010, Gay Marriage is legal, and Obamacare is law. I don't see a right-ward swing happening.


We have a Republican majority congress, and will likely have a Republican President next year. American politics has historically cycled between left and right.

I don't see a Republican getting elected pres next year. It's really too far out to tell, especially with the chaotic GOP race this year. And the mad-dash back to the center that the GOP nominee has to make to win over the independents who weren't scared away during the primary.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:08 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Tahar Joblis wrote:Congresscritters announcing a refusal to confirm a specific candidate is one thing; congresscritters refusing to confirm any candidate, however, without regard to who it might be, is another. This is the latter case.


If Obama doesn't appoint someone too far left, congress will likely confirm them.


That's a fat "IF" considering their statements.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:08 pm

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Agreed, and this is also likely to be the reason Obama appoints someone less leftist than he, his party and the common liberals might like.

This guy is prolly gonna get tapped.

Foreign-sounding name, skin more than a shade darker than lily white, argued for gay marriage... Senate's never gonna go for that guy.
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Postby Terminus Alpha » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:09 pm

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Foreign-sounding name, skin more than a shade darker than lily white, argued for gay marriage... Senate's never gonna go for that guy.

He's argued for gun rights in the past, though.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:09 pm

Terminus Alpha wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Agreed, and this is also likely to be the reason Obama appoints someone less leftist than he, his party and the common liberals might like.

This guy is prolly gonna get tapped.


I can see that.
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Postby Arkiasis » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:10 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if a President Trump nominates Judge Judy.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:10 pm

Terminus Alpha wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Foreign-sounding name, skin more than a shade darker than lily white, argued for gay marriage... Senate's never gonna go for that guy.

He's argued for gun rights in the past, though.


And gay rights...
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:10 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:Eric holder!

I'm thinking maybe he'll tap an Asian judge. there must be many qualified candidates.

George Takei!


Terminus Alpha wrote:Sri Srinivasan: The guy who everyone thinks is gonna be the next SC judge.

Looks like the SC may be getting some diversity on it.

I hope so, because every time I see that name I'll be reminded of Sri Syadasti Syadavaktavya Syadasti Syannasti Syadasti Cavaktavyasca Syadasti Syannasti Syadavatavyasca Syadasti Syannasti Syadavaktavyasca.

hmmmm is takei communist? he might be PERFECT.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:11 pm

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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:11 pm

Terminus Alpha wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Foreign-sounding name, skin more than a shade darker than lily white, argued for gay marriage... Senate's never gonna go for that guy.

He's argued for gun rights in the past, though.

Then Obama can get him through. Enough "moderate" Republicans might defect.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:11 pm

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Big Jim P wrote:
We have a Republican majority congress, and will likely have a Republican President next year. American politics has historically cycled between left and right.

I don't see a Republican getting elected pres next year. It's really too far out to tell, especially with the chaotic GOP race this year. And the mad-dash back to the center that the GOP nominee has to make to win over the independents who weren't scared away during the primary.


Well, the dems are putting up one or the other un-electable candidate. We shall see.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:12 pm

Ashmoria wrote:hmmmm is takei communist? he might be PERFECT.

He's not a judge though.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:12 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:hmmmm is takei communist? he might be PERFECT.

He's not a judge though.

Everyone likes the anti-establishment candidates, though.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:12 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Terminus Alpha wrote:I don't see a Republican getting elected pres next year. It's really too far out to tell, especially with the chaotic GOP race this year. And the mad-dash back to the center that the GOP nominee has to make to win over the independents who weren't scared away during the primary.


Well, the dems are putting up one or the other un-electable candidate. We shall see.

And Donald Trump and Ted Cruz are highly electable, right? :roll:
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:13 pm

Arkiasis wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if a President Trump nominates Judge Judy.

hes mentioned his sister before. she is a federal judge of some kind that the national review called a pro-abortion extremist.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:13 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:hmmmm is takei communist? he might be PERFECT.

He's not a judge though.


Bah, details, details...
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Postby Tmutarakhan » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:13 pm

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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:13 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Terminus Alpha wrote:He's argued for gun rights in the past, though.

Then Obama can get him through. Enough "moderate" Republicans might defect.


I could agree with this, as gay marriage happens to be one of the issues I am liberal on. That puts him two for two in my opinion.
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:14 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
The political damage will be somewhat mitigated by our current swing towards the right.


I wouldn't count on this "swing to the right" to be a cause of mitigation to Senate literally not doing its job.


They'll need AM radio and FOX News to spin it about 10,000 rpms to get the desired result. Fortunately their capacity is only 3,000 rpm. :lol:

They might like a second look at W's forlorn nominee Harriet Miers. :eyebrow:
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:14 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:hmmmm is takei communist? he might be PERFECT.

He's not a judge though.

there are no qualifications for supreme court.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:14 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:

Foreign-sounding name, skin more than a shade darker than lily white, argued for gay marriage... Senate's never gonna go for that guy.

A shame, the outsourcing jokes practically write themselves. :P


Ashmoria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:George Takei!



I hope so, because every time I see that name I'll be reminded of Sri Syadasti Syadavaktavya Syadasti Syannasti Syadasti Cavaktavyasca Syadasti Syannasti Syadavatavyasca Syadasti Syannasti Syadavaktavyasca.

hmmmm is takei communist? he might be PERFECT.

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