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by Neon Trotsky » Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:53 am

by Ifreann » Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:58 am
Jamzmania wrote:Ifreann wrote:Before Scalia died. If there is a need to elect a new president to allow the people to have their say, then there is a need to elect a new Senate. If there is no need to elect a new Senate, then there is no need to elect a new president. So which do you want? Confirmation hearings now, or in 2021?
You are missing the incredibly important fact that this is a presidential election year. The next president is being chosen as we speak.

by Gauthier » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:01 am
Khadgar wrote:Explain something to me, why would anyone want Donald Trump to pick a supreme court justice? Can you imagine?

by Ifreann » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:01 am
Khadgar wrote:Explain something to me, why would anyone want Donald Trump to pick a supreme court justice? Can you imagine?

by Trumpostan » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:07 am

by Jamzmania » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:09 am
Ifreann wrote:Jamzmania wrote:You are missing the incredibly important fact that this is a presidential election year. The next president is being chosen as we speak.
And you are missing the incredibly important fact that if the people are to have their say then they must elect both a president and a Senate. Electing a whole new Senate will take until 2020.
I don't think you want the people to have their say at all. I think that's a lie that you're repeating because you want a Republican president to appoint a conservative judge and have them confirmed by a Republican senate, and you can't muster any legitimate argument why Obama should not make an appointment.
The Alexanderians wrote:"Fear no man or woman,
No matter what their size.
Call upon me,
And I will equalize."
-Engraved on the side of my M1911 .45

by Zeinbrad » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:12 am
Jamzmania wrote:Ifreann wrote:And you are missing the incredibly important fact that if the people are to have their say then they must elect both a president and a Senate. Electing a whole new Senate will take until 2020.
I don't think you want the people to have their say at all. I think that's a lie that you're repeating because you want a Republican president to appoint a conservative judge and have them confirmed by a Republican senate, and you can't muster any legitimate argument why Obama should not make an appointment.
The U.S. Supreme Court has an immense amount of power. The American people should have their say this election season, as has been done for nearly 100 years, in what direction the Court goes. In Heller v. D.C., we were one vote away from losing our right to bear arms. The people need to choose now how they want their country to go.
You can speculate all you want as to my motivations but that does not change my point.

by Genivaria » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:14 am
Jamzmania wrote:Ifreann wrote:And you are missing the incredibly important fact that if the people are to have their say then they must elect both a president and a Senate. Electing a whole new Senate will take until 2020.
I don't think you want the people to have their say at all. I think that's a lie that you're repeating because you want a Republican president to appoint a conservative judge and have them confirmed by a Republican senate, and you can't muster any legitimate argument why Obama should not make an appointment.
The U.S. Supreme Court has an immense amount of power. The American people should have their say this election season, as has been done for nearly 100 years, in what direction the Court goes. In Heller v. D.C., we were one vote away from losing our right to bear arms. The people need to choose now how they want their country to go.
You can speculate all you want as to my motivations but that does not change my point.

by Jamzmania » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:15 am
Zeinbrad wrote:Jamzmania wrote:The U.S. Supreme Court has an immense amount of power. The American people should have their say this election season, as has been done for nearly 100 years, in what direction the Court goes. In Heller v. D.C., we were one vote away from losing our right to bear arms. The people need to choose now how they want their country to go.
You can speculate all you want as to my motivations but that does not change my point.
They did, by electing Obama.
By this logic, the President can only elect justices their first year in office.
The Alexanderians wrote:"Fear no man or woman,
No matter what their size.
Call upon me,
And I will equalize."
-Engraved on the side of my M1911 .45

by Genivaria » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:17 am
Jamzmania wrote:Zeinbrad wrote:They did, by electing Obama.
By this logic, the President can only elect justices their first year in office.
Again, they also gave Republicans the Senate. The Senate's advice? Wait until next year. Their consent? Not given.
Thus, using your logic, the people have still spoken to wait.

by Gauthier » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:18 am
Gauthier wrote:Supreme Court vacancies in presidential election years
The SCOTUSblog cites that SC vacancies have been filled during presidential election years so the idea that Obama should sit in the back of the bus like a good boy is partisan bullshit.

by Trumpostan » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:19 am

by Jamzmania » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:19 am
The Alexanderians wrote:"Fear no man or woman,
No matter what their size.
Call upon me,
And I will equalize."
-Engraved on the side of my M1911 .45

by Gauthier » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:20 am
Trumpostan wrote:Some people simply want another bitter old fascist enemy of the people like Scalia who thinks that the more money you have, the more free speech you have.

by Zeinbrad » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:21 am
Jamzmania wrote:Zeinbrad wrote:They did, by electing Obama.
By this logic, the President can only elect justices their first year in office.
Again, they also gave Republicans the Senate. The Senate's advice? Wait until next year. Their consent? Not given.
Thus, using your logic, the people have still spoken to wait.

by The Archregimancy » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:21 am

by Genivaria » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:24 am

by Jamzmania » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:29 am
The Alexanderians wrote:"Fear no man or woman,
No matter what their size.
Call upon me,
And I will equalize."
-Engraved on the side of my M1911 .45

by Gauthier » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:29 am

by Ashmoria » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:29 am
Jamzmania wrote:Zeinbrad wrote:They did, by electing Obama.
By this logic, the President can only elect justices their first year in office.
Again, they also gave Republicans the Senate. The Senate's advice? Wait until next year. Their consent? Not given.
Thus, using your logic, the people have still spoken to wait.
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