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What should the US Senate do with the nomination of Merrick Garland?

Refuse to hold hearings on Garland's nomination
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Hold hearings but reject Garland's nomination
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Hold hearings and approve Garland's nomination
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Total votes : 144

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Postby Galloism » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:50 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
greed and death wrote:Most of the Democrats in govnerment were with them.

wasnt bernie the only one to vote against?

Nope. 1 republican and 21 democrats also voted against.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:57 pm

Galloism wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:wasnt bernie the only one to vote against?

Nope. 1 republican and 21 democrats also voted against.


thanx, i thougth it was less, senility
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:02 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I think you mean "with AMERICA".


Aren't the repubs the true 'muricans?

Exactly. I mean, everyone knows that America is a republic, not a democracy.

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Postby Myrensis » Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:03 pm

New Chalcedon wrote:Don't argue with me - argue with those distinguished speakers. Better yet, let them argue against themselves, as they are doing right now!


I don't know why you bother. Supreme Court nominations have been routinely made and confirmed in 4th and 8th years of Presidents terms without issue. Ethel is just coming up with bullshit goalpost shifting special qualifiers to justify Republican behavior.

"Oh yeah well, the last time a Justice was confirmed on a partly cloudy day in April, with a temperature of 68.3 degrees, with a northeast wind at 5 knots, and Jupiter Ascendant in the 5th House of Pisces, was in 1790! So clearly Republicans are being responsible and acting in accordance with the full weight of history and precedent!"
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:06 pm

Myrensis wrote:
New Chalcedon wrote:Don't argue with me - argue with those distinguished speakers. Better yet, let them argue against themselves, as they are doing right now!


I don't know why you bother. Supreme Court nominations have been routinely made and confirmed in 4th and 8th years of Presidents terms without issue. Ethel is just coming up with bullshit goalpost shifting special qualifiers to justify Republican behavior.

"Oh yeah well, the last time a Justice was confirmed on a partly cloudy day in April, with a temperature of 68.3 degrees, with a northeast wind at 5 knots, and Jupiter Ascendant in the 5th House of Pisces, was in 1790! So clearly Republicans are being responsible and acting in accordance with the full weight of history and precedent!"


Hahahahaha, no. I used the word "nominated with a cross party senate" your the ones with the issues with goalposts.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:16 pm

The Republican Senate has announced they can not confirm a Scotus appointment because they are too busy trying to stop Trump from becoming the GOP candidate for the Presidency.
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Postby New Chalcedon » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:38 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
I don't know why you bother. Supreme Court nominations have been routinely made and confirmed in 4th and 8th years of Presidents terms without issue. Ethel is just coming up with bullshit goalpost shifting special qualifiers to justify Republican behavior.

"Oh yeah well, the last time a Justice was confirmed on a partly cloudy day in April, with a temperature of 68.3 degrees, with a northeast wind at 5 knots, and Jupiter Ascendant in the 5th House of Pisces, was in 1790! So clearly Republicans are being responsible and acting in accordance with the full weight of history and precedent!"


Hahahahaha, no. I used the word "nominated with a cross party senate" your the ones with the issues with goalposts.


Thank you, but I was careful only to name instances of cross-party Senate control (and one case of a tied Senate). The fact is that the Senate has every right under the Constitution to refuse to confirm a nominee on their merits - but denying the President the power to even name one is absurd. Not to mention that all of those quotes I gave but the last of them specifically were of Republicans urging a Democratic-majority Senate to allow a Republican President to name judges. In a Presidential election year.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:42 pm

New Chalcedon wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Hahahahaha, no. I used the word "nominated with a cross party senate" your the ones with the issues with goalposts.


Thank you, but I was careful only to name instances of cross-party Senate control (and one case of a tied Senate). The fact is that the Senate has every right under the Constitution to refuse to confirm a nominee on their merits - but denying the President the power to even name one is absurd. Not to mention that all of those quotes I gave but the last of them specifically were of Republicans urging a Democratic-majority Senate to allow a Republican President to name judges. In a Presidential election year.

I think we all know Obama only gets 3/5 of a term to appoint people.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Sat Feb 27, 2016 12:17 am

Ailiailia wrote:
The United Territories of Providence wrote:What happens when Hillary wins in November, the Democrats split the Senate 50-50, and She nominates....Barack Obama.

If Republicans hated him as President for 8 years, imagine Supreme Court Justice for life


Hillary shouldn't have answered that question. One of her rare public speaking slipups imo.

It's too early to predict the balance of the next Senate, but it will probably be close to 50-50 and certainly won't be 60 Republicans. Scalia's seat won't be filled by a radical of either persuasion.


Honestly, the Republicans are just nuts enough now that they might filibuster a replacement all the way through the next Presidency if they don't win, unless the Democrats somehow manage a filibuster-proof majority.
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Postby New Chalcedon » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:03 am

Ailiailia wrote:
The United Territories of Providence wrote:What happens when Hillary wins in November, the Democrats split the Senate 50-50, and She nominates....Barack Obama.

If Republicans hated him as President for 8 years, imagine Supreme Court Justice for life


Hillary shouldn't have answered that question. One of her rare public speaking slipups imo.

It's too early to predict the balance of the next Senate, but it will probably be close to 50-50 and certainly won't be 60 Republicans. Scalia's seat won't be filled by a radical of either persuasion.


If the President is a Democrat, it doesn't matter how many Republican Senators there are - only the President can name someone to the SCOTUS, and only the Senate can say "Yes" or "No".

The Romulan Republic wrote:Honestly, the Republicans are just nuts enough now that they might filibuster a replacement all the way through the next Presidency if they don't win, unless the Democrats somehow manage a filibuster-proof majority.


That, sadly, is no surprise.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:29 am

New Chalcedon wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:
Hillary shouldn't have answered that question. One of her rare public speaking slipups imo.

It's too early to predict the balance of the next Senate, but it will probably be close to 50-50 and certainly won't be 60 Republicans. Scalia's seat won't be filled by a radical of either persuasion.


If the President is a Democrat, it doesn't matter how many Republican Senators there are - only the President can name someone to the SCOTUS, and only the Senate can say "Yes" or "No".

The Romulan Republic wrote:Honestly, the Republicans are just nuts enough now that they might filibuster a replacement all the way through the next Presidency if they don't win, unless the Democrats somehow manage a filibuster-proof majority.


That, sadly, is no surprise.


Well, I'm only speculating. But it wouldn't surprise me.

They have become a party which generally does not respect anything except their own prejudice, hate, and self-interest.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:16 am

Galloism wrote:
New Chalcedon wrote:
Thank you, but I was careful only to name instances of cross-party Senate control (and one case of a tied Senate). The fact is that the Senate has every right under the Constitution to refuse to confirm a nominee on their merits - but denying the President the power to even name one is absurd. Not to mention that all of those quotes I gave but the last of them specifically were of Republicans urging a Democratic-majority Senate to allow a Republican President to name judges. In a Presidential election year.

I think we all know Obama only gets 3/5 of a term to appoint people.


He'll also only be allowed 3/5 of a Presidential library, 3/5 of a Secret Service detail and 3/5 of speaking fees when he leaves office. And when he dies he gets 3/5 of a state funeral.
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Postby Forsher » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:59 am

Gauthier wrote:And when he dies he gets 3/5 of a state funeral.


Ah, the classic Tennessee funeral.*

*Treating DC as a state, Tennesse has the closest land area to 3/5 of the average land area of US states.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:31 am

Galloism wrote:
New Chalcedon wrote:
Thank you, but I was careful only to name instances of cross-party Senate control (and one case of a tied Senate). The fact is that the Senate has every right under the Constitution to refuse to confirm a nominee on their merits - but denying the President the power to even name one is absurd. Not to mention that all of those quotes I gave but the last of them specifically were of Republicans urging a Democratic-majority Senate to allow a Republican President to name judges. In a Presidential election year.

I think we all know Obama only gets 3/5 of a term to appoint people.


Yes because the only reason anyone csn possibly think Obama is the worst president since nixon is because he is a " dirty little muslim nigger". There is no other possible reason to think this guy has been a fucking disaster as a president. None at all, it has to be race.
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Postby Neu California » Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:44 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Galloism wrote:I think we all know Obama only gets 3/5 of a term to appoint people.


Yes because the only reason anyone csn possibly think Obama is the worst president since nixon is because he is a " dirty little muslim nigger". There is no other possible reason to think this guy has been a fucking disaster as a president. None at all, it has to be race.

How has Obama been a disaster?

Also, the worst president since Nixon was Dubya, not Obama.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:36 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Galloism wrote:I think we all know Obama only gets 3/5 of a term to appoint people.


Yes because the only reason anyone csn possibly think Obama is the worst president since nixon is because he is a " dirty little muslim nigger". There is no other possible reason to think this guy has been a fucking disaster as a president. None at all, it has to be race.


Irrelevant to the fact the the senate Republicans seem to think that he doesn't get to be president during his last year in office.

Or do you not get that is what is being mocked with all these 3/5 comments?

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:42 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Yes because the only reason anyone csn possibly think Obama is the worst president since nixon is because he is a " dirty little muslim nigger". There is no other possible reason to think this guy has been a fucking disaster as a president. None at all, it has to be race.


Irrelevant to the fact the the senate Republicans seem to think that he doesn't get to be president during his last year in office.

Or do you not get that is what is being mocked with all these 3/5 comments?

The race card is being played. I get it very well.

If Obama were just a white boy, the Republicans wouldn't be doing it. Because as we know republicans are just racist. So yes my answer is .. i am a repunlicsn, i think obama is a disaster, i am mot a racist, and a general. Fuck off for calling me one, and ascribing racism as my sole motivation

Please note: the fuck off is not directed at a particular poster, but at the attitude that opposing Obama is racism.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:47 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Irrelevant to the fact the the senate Republicans seem to think that he doesn't get to be president during his last year in office.

Or do you not get that is what is being mocked with all these 3/5 comments?

The race card is being played. I get it very well.


The Republicans started it. Or have you forgotten the demands to see the birth certificate?

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:56 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:The race card is being played. I get it very well.


The Republicans started it. Or have you forgotten the demands to see the birth certificate?

Well that's in keeping with precedent. I mean, it never happened to any other president. But it's precedent for...em...black presidents?

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:56 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:The race card is being played. I get it very well.


The Republicans started it. Or have you forgotten the demands to see the birth certificate?


You think if his dad was a white kenyan muslim, he would not have received the same shit?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:57 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
The Republicans started it. Or have you forgotten the demands to see the birth certificate?


You think if his dad was a white kenyan muslim, he would not have received the same shit?


I could see the same thing happening given how off the rails the GOP was starting to become.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:57 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
The Republicans started it. Or have you forgotten the demands to see the birth certificate?


You think if his dad was a white kenyan muslim, he would not have received the same shit?


Actually, no. No one gave McCain the same shit and he was actually born outside the United States.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:05 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
You think if his dad was a white kenyan muslim, he would not have received the same shit?


Actually, no. No one gave McCain the same shit and he was actually born outside the United States.


Do you know where McCain was born? Do you know who his father is? There is no comparison.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:11 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
The Republicans started it. Or have you forgotten the demands to see the birth certificate?


You think if his dad was a white kenyan muslim, he would not have received the same shit?

that is exactly what I think. he still would have received a huge ration of shit but it would have been different shit.
whatever

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:12 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Actually, no. No one gave McCain the same shit and he was actually born outside the United States.


Do you know where McCain was born?

Panama.
Do you know who his father is?

Also John McCain. Whose own father was also John McCain.

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