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What should the US Senate do with the nomination of Merrick Garland?

Refuse to hold hearings on Garland's nomination
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Hold hearings but reject Garland's nomination
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Hold hearings and approve Garland's nomination
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Total votes : 144

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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:38 am

New Chalcedon wrote:All without the consequence of formally making an offer (namely, that Obama's stuck in a bind if both Sandoval and the Republican Senators say "yes", filling the slot with a bona fide, if sane, conservative).


It would also be damaging to the White House (thus Democrats) to name him, then have him publicly decline.
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:28 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
New Chalcedon wrote:All without the consequence of formally making an offer (namely, that Obama's stuck in a bind if both Sandoval and the Republican Senators say "yes", filling the slot with a bona fide, if sane, conservative).


It would also be damaging to the White House (thus Democrats) to name him, then have him publicly decline.

Reuters wrote:Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval, a moderate Republican, took himself out of consideration for appointment to the U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday as Senate Republicans dug in on their vow not to act on any nominee by President Barack Obama.

Asked if the White House was disappointed by Sandoval's decision, Obama spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters, "He's obviously entitled to make decisions about his own career."
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:33 pm

Northwest Slobovia wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:
It would also be damaging to the White House (thus Democrats) to name him, then have him publicly decline.

Reuters wrote:Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval, a moderate Republican, took himself out of consideration for appointment to the U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday as Senate Republicans dug in on their vow not to act on any nominee by President Barack Obama.

Asked if the White House was disappointed by Sandoval's decision, Obama spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters, "He's obviously entitled to make decisions about his own career."


Well, why not nominate himself? He'll be out of a job in a few months, and sitting in the Supreme Court would be a wonderful opportunity that would otherwise be wasted away writing a presidential memoir or opening a library named in his honor.

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Postby Geilinor » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:35 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:Well, why not nominate himself? He'll be out of a job in a few months, and sitting in the Supreme Court would be a wonderful opportunity that would otherwise be wasted away writing a presidential memoir or opening a library named in his honor.

He still has two and a half years left in his term.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:35 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:Well, why not nominate himself? He'll be out of a job in a few months, and sitting in the Supreme Court would be a wonderful opportunity that would otherwise be wasted away writing a presidential memoir or opening a library named in his honor.

He still has two and a half years left in his term.

Obama has less than a year left.
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:37 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Geilinor wrote:He still has two and a half years left in his term.

Obama has less than a year left.

Yeah, I didn't realize he was talking about Obama. I thought he meant Sandoval (I didn't notice the "presidential library" part).
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Postby Zeinbrad » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:34 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Northwest Slobovia wrote:


Well, why not nominate himself? He'll be out of a job in a few months, and sitting in the Supreme Court would be a wonderful opportunity that would otherwise be wasted away writing a presidential memoir or opening a library named in his honor.

Or sending time with family.
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:44 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Well, why not nominate himself? He'll be out of a job in a few months, and sitting in the Supreme Court would be a wonderful opportunity that would otherwise be wasted away writing a presidential memoir or opening a library named in his honor.

Or sending time with family.


He can't spend time with the family, write a memoir, open a presidential library, and be a supreme court justice?

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Postby Zeinbrad » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:46 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:Or sending time with family.


He can't spend time with the family, write a memoir, open a presidential library, and be a supreme court justice?

Probably not.
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Postby Trumpostan » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:51 am

Since Republicans like precedents (even their own made up ones): ex-presidents have been serving on the SCOTUS before.

The freerepublic crowd seems to want Ted Cruz on the Court :lol:
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Postby Khadgar » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:15 am

Just because it made me giggle.

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Postby New Chalcedon » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:49 pm

Trumpostan wrote:Since Republicans like precedents (even their own made up ones): ex-presidents have been serving on the SCOTUS before.

The freerepublic crowd seems to want Ted Cruz on the Court :lol:


What Ted Cruz knows about the Constitution would fit into a thimble - with room left over for some tea. The only way he's getting onto the SCOTUS is if he appoints himself, but I'd almost like to see it happen...given his track record of making friends, I give it 5 years max before he's turned all the other Justices into firebreathing liberals.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:00 pm

New Chalcedon wrote:
Trumpostan wrote:Since Republicans like precedents (even their own made up ones): ex-presidents have been serving on the SCOTUS before.

The freerepublic crowd seems to want Ted Cruz on the Court :lol:


What Ted Cruz knows about the Constitution would fit into a thimble - with room left over for some tea. The only way he's getting onto the SCOTUS is if he appoints himself, but I'd almost like to see it happen...given his track record of making friends, I give it 5 years max before he's turned all the other Justices into firebreathing liberals.


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Postby TomKirk » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:19 pm

greed and death wrote:
Geilinor wrote:"We'll block you no matter what" is not advice. "We'd like it if the nominee had X qualification/characteristic" is advice.

That's a promise to withhold consent if advice is not followed.

They have not given any advice, except to not nominate: which is directly contrary to the mandatory language of the constitution.
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Postby The United Territories of Providence » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:19 pm

What happens when Hillary wins in November, the Democrats split the Senate 50-50, and She nominates....Barack Obama.

If Republicans hated him as President for 8 years, imagine Supreme Court Justice for life
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Postby TomKirk » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:37 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Exactly, Biden was giving a speech about reviewing the judicial appointments process after approving all of Bush's nominees up to that point.

It's almost like the Repubs are deliberately taking something completely out of context in order to score political points.....


The NY times is not exactly a republican friendly source.

You could have fooled me during the Iraq War buildup.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:49 pm

TomKirk wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
The NY times is not exactly a republican friendly source.

You could have fooled me during the Iraq War buildup.


You were either with the repubs or against them.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:58 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
TomKirk wrote:You could have fooled me during the Iraq War buildup.


You were either with the repubs or against them.

I think you mean "with AMERICA".

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:02 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
You were either with the repubs or against them.

I think you mean "with AMERICA".


Aren't the repubs the true 'muricans?
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Postby AiliailiA » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:12 pm

The United Territories of Providence wrote:What happens when Hillary wins in November, the Democrats split the Senate 50-50, and She nominates....Barack Obama.

If Republicans hated him as President for 8 years, imagine Supreme Court Justice for life


Hillary shouldn't have answered that question. One of her rare public speaking slipups imo.

It's too early to predict the balance of the next Senate, but it will probably be close to 50-50 and certainly won't be 60 Republicans. Scalia's seat won't be filled by a radical of either persuasion.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:17 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Khadgar wrote:There's some noise being made about Brian Sandoval being picked. I wonder if it's a serious pick or if Obama is trolling the Senate.


At most a "short list" mention (or leak, since the White House hasn't confirmed even considering Sandoval).

Sandoval has three more years to be Governor, and he declined to run for the Senate seat vacated by Harry Reid for this year's election, citing work still to be done as Governor. He stands to gain nothing and stands to lose if he is publicly shortlisted by Obama but then isn't Obama's nominee. And whatever ambitions he may have beyond the Governorship would be scuttled by being the actual nominee, then being rejected by the Republican Senate. To Republicans, he'd be that guy who compromised with Obama.

So the White House isn't publicly announcing that Sandoval is being considered, because Sandoval would publicly decline. He'd only accept if there was a better than 50/50 chance of actually being appointed this year, which there's not.

Part of why he turned it down. Also putting him on the court would remove a GOP Governor from an otherwise blue state.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:17 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
The United Territories of Providence wrote:What happens when Hillary wins in November, the Democrats split the Senate 50-50, and She nominates....Barack Obama.

If Republicans hated him as President for 8 years, imagine Supreme Court Justice for life


Hillary shouldn't have answered that question. One of her rare public speaking slipups imo.

It's too early to predict the balance of the next Senate, but it will probably be close to 50-50 and certainly won't be 60 Republicans. Scalia's seat won't be filled by a radical of either persuasion.


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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:19 pm

greed and death wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:
At most a "short list" mention (or leak, since the White House hasn't confirmed even considering Sandoval).

Sandoval has three more years to be Governor, and he declined to run for the Senate seat vacated by Harry Reid for this year's election, citing work still to be done as Governor. He stands to gain nothing and stands to lose if he is publicly shortlisted by Obama but then isn't Obama's nominee. And whatever ambitions he may have beyond the Governorship would be scuttled by being the actual nominee, then being rejected by the Republican Senate. To Republicans, he'd be that guy who compromised with Obama.

So the White House isn't publicly announcing that Sandoval is being considered, because Sandoval would publicly decline. He'd only accept if there was a better than 50/50 chance of actually being appointed this year, which there's not.

Part of why he turned it down. Also putting him on the court would remove a GOP Governor from an otherwise blue state.


Hmmm possibly. I think it was more him following orders as to continue their hate of the President and their goal to make sure nothing is ever accomplished.....
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:21 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
TomKirk wrote:You could have fooled me during the Iraq War buildup.


You were either with the repubs or against them.

Most of the Democrats in govnerment were with them.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:43 pm

greed and death wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
You were either with the repubs or against them.

Most of the Democrats in govnerment were with them.

wasnt bernie the only one to vote against?
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