Replacing Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia

[Faustian Fantasies]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/15/what-was-justice-scalias-shoulder-injury/

Inconsistencies emerge in justice scalia's death, judge who said he died of natural causes never saw his body.

The government might have been lying? World's biggest shocker...

How is that an inconsistency? You can have knowledge that a person died of natural causes without seeing their body.

[Ethel mermania]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/15/what-was-justice-scalias-shoulder-injury/

Inconsistencies emerge in justice scalia's death, judge who said he died of natural causes never saw his body.

The government might have been lying? World's biggest shocker...

Yes. Clearly Obama is going to have a justice murdered who he cannot possibly hope to replace with the lame duck Congress he currently has full of GOP senators who will literally vote "no" on anyone he nominates and disagree with him on every level. Also, Breitbart is not a source.

who said it was obama, maybe it was the maid?

the proper answer is that is fairly typical. the coroner only reports on the bodies he see's. otherwise the local medic who examines the body makes the determination of cause of death for the county paperwork. Since the Judge is not a medic he takes the medics word for it, and signs he papers. In Florida and NJ, where i have gone through the process the county clerk issues the paperwork, texas may be different

[Greed and Death]

Less than 1% of all cases appealed to SCOTUS are granted cert and about 10% of those are are decided by a 5-4 margin.

So? Those are the ones I described as "most critical".

A New justice would not be deciding cases anyways since they will have missed oral arguments. Even a speedy appointment and confirmation is 3-4 months away and by then the terms oral arguments will be over. It will not really be until next year that a new appointee does anything.

October isn't "next year" and furthermore: if confirmation will take 3-4 months next year the new justice will be similarly delayed from taking part in cases then.

well the Presidential vetting part will be done already so 1-2 months would be more accurate, as I am sure President Trump wont bother to vet anyone he appoints.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

Yes. Clearly Obama is going to have a justice murdered who he cannot possibly hope to replace with the lame duck Congress he currently has full of GOP senators who will literally vote "no" on anyone he nominates and disagree with him on every level. Also, Breitbart is not a source.

who said it was obama, maybe it was the maid?

the proper answer is that is fairly typical. the coroner only reports on the bodies he see's. otherwise the local medic who examines the body makes the determination of cause of death for the county paperwork. Since the Judge is not a medic he takes the medics word for it, and signs he papers. In Florida and NJ, where i have gone through the process the county clerk issues the paperwork, texas may be different

I'm talking about obama because I live around enough conservatives to know the angle he was trying to take on this. I have heard several people theorize Obama had Scalia taken down cause he wanted to unbalance the Court.

[Greed and Death]

who said it was obama, maybe it was the maid?

the proper answer is that is fairly typical. the coroner only reports on the bodies he see's. otherwise the local medic who examines the body makes the determination of cause of death for the county paperwork. Since the Judge is not a medic he takes the medics word for it, and signs he papers. In Florida and NJ, where i have gone through the process the county clerk issues the paperwork, texas may be different

I'm talking about obama because I live around enough conservatives to know the angle he was trying to take on this. I have heard several people theorize Obama had Scalia taken down cause he wanted to unbalance the Court.

If he was going to Kill a justice he would not wait until his last year in office. The President is many things but he is not dumb, killing a justice in your last year only helps the next Democrat elected President.

If Obama was going to bump a justice it would have been during the 2008 campaign. That way he gets 8 years of things going his way.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

I'm talking about obama because I live around enough conservatives to know the angle he was trying to take on this. I have heard several people theorize Obama had Scalia taken down cause he wanted to unbalance the Court.

If he was going to Kill a justice he would not wait until his last year in office. The President is many things but he is not dumb, killing a justice in your last year only helps the next Democrat elected President.

If Obama was going to bump a justice it would have been during the 2008 campaign. That way he gets 8 years of things going his way.

And that is logic. Sadly, logic is not an art form practiced by many on the farther reaches of the right.

[AiliailiA]

You don't think nine and a half months (or more) of SCOTUS being deadlocked on the most critical cases looks a bit like a shutdown?

No, because it is not a shutdown.

That's the expression Republicans themselves used to describe the refusal to raise the debt ceiling. It wasn't literally a shutdown ... that would be the cessation of all government activities and Congress doesn't have the power to do that unless they can pass bills over the President's veto. Which obviously Republicans couldn't at the time (or now for that matter).

So neither of these is literally a shutdown. Blah, what boring word play.

[Greed and Death]

If he was going to Kill a justice he would not wait until his last year in office. The President is many things but he is not dumb, killing a justice in your last year only helps the next Democrat elected President.

If Obama was going to bump a justice it would have been during the 2008 campaign. That way he gets 8 years of things going his way.

And that is logic. Sadly, logic is not an art form practiced by many on the farther reaches of the right.

I know and what makes me the most angry is they are passing off the opportunity to accuse Hillary of having Scalia bumped.
They could even frame it as part revenge for Scalia's opinion in Clinton v. Jones, 520 U.S. 681.

[Lady Scylla]

sorry ill try my best to make sure that the whitehouse remains democratic. we cant afford the republican suckification of America.

What we can't afford is a further slide to the left.

The current GOP candidates are in the far-right corner of the spectrum. Much further right than the last election, I'll pass.

[Ethel mermania]

who said it was obama, maybe it was the maid?

the proper answer is that is fairly typical. the coroner only reports on the bodies he see's. otherwise the local medic who examines the body makes the determination of cause of death for the county paperwork. Since the Judge is not a medic he takes the medics word for it, and signs he papers. In Florida and NJ, where i have gone through the process the county clerk issues the paperwork, texas may be different

I'm talking about obama because I live around enough conservatives to know the angle he was trying to take on this. I have heard several people theorize Obama had Scalia taken down cause he wanted to unbalance the Court.

i simply dont believe that. facebook rants dont count

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

I'm talking about obama because I live around enough conservatives to know the angle he was trying to take on this. I have heard several people theorize Obama had Scalia taken down cause he wanted to unbalance the Court.

i simply dont believe that. facebook rants dont count

My mother and aunt both in person have said that. My mother also said to a person in public that she thinks Obama is the devil. As much as it sounds crazier than something Ted Nugent would say while drunk, there are perfectly "sober" people on the ultra-right that truly believe it.

[Greed and Death]

No, because it is not a shutdown.

That's the expression Republicans themselves used to describe the refusal to raise the debt ceiling. It wasn't literally a shutdown ... that would be the cessation of all government activities and Congress doesn't have the power to do that unless they can pass bills over the President's veto. Which obviously Republicans couldn't at the time (or now for that matter).

So neither of these is literally a shutdown. Blah, what boring word play.

The Republicans also admitted the debt ceiling was worse than a shut down.

But honestly if debt ceilings and shutdowns which actually effected large numbers of people did not turn the tide against the republicans I doubt refusing to consent to a scotus appointee would have any effect against them.

[Ashmoria]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/15/what-was-justice-scalias-shoulder-injury/

Inconsistencies emerge in justice scalia's death, judge who said he died of natural causes never saw his body.

The government might have been lying? World's biggest shocker...

you think his wife is in on it???

[TomKirk]

"Justice Wainwright" tweets:
Antonin Scalia requested cremation in his will, but millions of women will meet tomorrow to discuss if that's really best for his body.

[Ethel mermania]

That's the expression Republicans themselves used to describe the refusal to raise the debt ceiling. It wasn't literally a shutdown ... that would be the cessation of all government activities and Congress doesn't have the power to do that unless they can pass bills over the President's veto. Which obviously Republicans couldn't at the time (or now for that matter).

So neither of these is literally a shutdown. Blah, what boring word play.

The Republicans also admitted the debt ceiling was worse than a shut down.

But honestly if debt ceilings and shutdowns which actually effected large numbers of people did not turn the tide against the republicans I doubt refusing to consent to a scotus appointee would have any effect against them.

i see it as a positive, obama isnt going to suddenly appoint someone that will pass this senate. why waste the country's time. If a democrat wins, the next senate is not going to be more republican, the democrats will do much better in the senate. If a republican wins we get a justice who is conservative.

That said if i were obama i would appoint someone who i want for the court, and make the senate deal with the fallout.

[Greed and Death]

What we can't afford is a further slide to the left.

The current GOP candidates are in the far-right corner of the spectrum. Much further right than the last election, I'll pass.

I am sorry you will lose abortion rights and SSM rights.
But my right to bear arms, be free from affirmative action in university admissions, and right to be free of union dues take more precedence than those.

IF you could only propose a candidate who would protect those rights I cherish perhaps your rights could be saved as well.

[Ethel mermania]

"Justice Wainwright" tweets:
Antonin Scalia requested cremation in his will, but millions of women will meet tomorrow to discuss if that's really best for his body.

ha ha, very funny such wit and humor in a post ...

[Greed and Death]

The Republicans also admitted the debt ceiling was worse than a shut down.

But honestly if debt ceilings and shutdowns which actually effected large numbers of people did not turn the tide against the republicans I doubt refusing to consent to a scotus appointee would have any effect against them.

i see it as a positive, obama isnt going to suddenly appoint someone that will pass this senate. why waste the country's time. If a democrat wins, the next senate is not going to be more republican, the democrats will do much better in the senate if a republican wins we get a justice who is conservative.

That said if i were obama i would appoint someone who i want for the court, and make the senate deal with the fallout.

If he appoints a clearly liberal justice they will just vote him no on the grounds his views on X are known.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

The current GOP candidates are in the far-right corner of the spectrum. Much further right than the last election, I'll pass.

I am sorry you will lose abortion rights and SSM rights.
But my right to bear arms, be free from affirmative action in university admissions, and right to be free of union dues take more precedence than those.

IF you could only propose a candidate who would protect those rights I cherish perhaps your rights could be saved as well.

So let me get this straight, you think your right to buy a super-high powered assault rifle that your never really going to need for much anyway is much more important than gays and lesbians being treated like normal couples? Im sorry, but I think its more important that the right to marriage is expanded than you get to play with a glorified deadly toy.

[Ashmoria]

The current GOP candidates are in the far-right corner of the spectrum. Much further right than the last election, I'll pass.

I am sorry you will lose abortion rights and SSM rights.
But my right to bear arms, be free from affirmative action in university admissions, and right to be free of union dues take more precedence than those.

IF you could only propose a candidate who would protect those rights I cherish perhaps your rights could be saved as well.

do lawyers have a union? are you thinking of going back to school? seems to me the only right that you might be worried about there is the right to bear arms. youll probably still be able to shoot coyotes while jogging no matter who is on the court.

[Ethel mermania]

i see it as a positive, obama isnt going to suddenly appoint someone that will pass this senate. why waste the country's time. If a democrat wins, the next senate is not going to be more republican, the democrats will do much better in the senate if a republican wins we get a justice who is conservative.

That said if i were obama i would appoint someone who i want for the court, and make the senate deal with the fallout.

If he appoints a clearly liberal justice they will just vote him no on the grounds his views on X are known.

whats the process? Does it go to the senate judiciary committee first? or does it go to the full senate? Can McConnell just not schedule a hearing?

[Myrensis]

i see it as a positive, obama isnt going to suddenly appoint someone that will pass this senate. why waste the country's time. If a democrat wins, the next senate is not going to be more republican, the democrats will do much better in the senate if a republican wins we get a justice who is conservative.

That said if i were obama i would appoint someone who i want for the court, and make the senate deal with the fallout.

If he appoints a clearly liberal justice they will just vote him no on the grounds his views on X are known.

I expect Obama will go with someone moderate just to make it that much more awkward for them, but since the GOP has so loudly announced that they have no intention of confirming anyone, even if he did nominate some raging liberal it would be hard for Republicans to criticize without it looking like empty and self-serving excuses for something they never intended to do anyway.

[Ethel mermania]

I am sorry you will lose abortion rights and SSM rights.
But my right to bear arms, be free from affirmative action in university admissions, and right to be free of union dues take more precedence than those.

IF you could only propose a candidate who would protect those rights I cherish perhaps your rights could be saved as well.

So let me get this straight, you think your right to buy a super-high powered assault rifle that your never really going to need for much anyway is much more important than gays and lesbians being treated like normal couples? Im sorry, but I think its more important that the right to marriage is expanded than you get to play with a glorified deadly toy.

in the real world, people advocate for their interests. get use to it.

[Ethel mermania]

i see it as a positive, obama isnt going to suddenly appoint someone that will pass this senate. why waste the country's time. If a democrat wins, the next senate is not going to be more republican, the democrats will do much better in the senate if a republican wins we get a justice who is conservative.

That said if i were obama i would appoint someone who i want for the court, and make the senate deal with the fallout.

If he appoints a clearly liberal justice they will just vote him no on the grounds his views on X are known.

i were him i would nominate trump's sister. Just for the fuckitall

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

So let me get this straight, you think your right to buy a super-high powered assault rifle that your never really going to need for much anyway is much more important than gays and lesbians being treated like normal couples? Im sorry, but I think its more important that the right to marriage is expanded than you get to play with a glorified deadly toy.

in the real world, people advocate for their interests. get use to it.

People can advocate for their interests. Doesn't mean they aren't wrong.

The simple fact is the constitution would have to be amended to get rid of gun rights. All a liberal SCOTUS can do is uphold regulations on the kinds of guns you can buy. Not being able to buy an AR-15 is an inconvenience. Not being able to marry is a travesty.