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Proxyth
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Socialist and Liberals

Postby Proxyth » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:16 am

Liberals use to be a good thing until they went completely against what their founder wanted and it went to ruin. Their morals were obliterated they made up their own "No Guns No Crime" B.S. on that more like no guns for law abiding citizens more for the unlaw abiding citizens. These liberals are ex-hippies and are absolutely ruining America it is unacceptable. Then the socialist the patient communist essentially they made up the phrase politically correct to eliminate freedom of speech. They want to inspire human nature to be lazy and bums but get paid for it. They want to "help" people but they ruin people by welfare and all this other crap that is not needed to properly run a country it is unacceptable; beyond that this website makes it mandatory to have welfare what kind of brain washing do they think they are trying to do. Let's have some unity through diversity here and you shouldn't make it so we have to have welfare. I wouldn't have it if I was president of the United States of America; I would change the education; I would change the medical care; I would fix America to what the founding fathers wanted it to be.
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The Great Devourer of All
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Postby The Great Devourer of All » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:18 am

My understanding is that, for their time, the founding fathers were fairly liberal people. I may be wrong, but I think that's true.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:19 am

What in the ever-loving fuck are you talking about?
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Postby Valaran » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:20 am

What precisely are we meant to discuss? The OP looks somewhat like a stream of consciousness, so some clarity would be nice.
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Postby BPSR » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:20 am

Socialism is not about supporting lazy people. It's about the workers controlling the means of production. You're mistaking socialism with social democracy.
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Postby The Great Devourer of All » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:21 am

'It's always summer somewhere..."
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Yymea wrote:We would definitely be scared of what is probably the most scary nation on NS :p


Multiversal Venn-Copard wrote:Actually fairly threatening by our standards. And this time we really mean "threatening". As in, "we'll actually need to escalate significantly to match their fleets."


Valkalan wrote:10/10 Profoundly evil. Some nations conqueror others for wealth and prestige, but the Devourer consumes civilization like a cancer consuming an unfortunate host.


The Speaker wrote:Intemperate in the sea from the roof, and leg All night, and he knows lots of reads from the unseen good old man of the mountain-DESTRUCTION
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Postby Cuprum » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:21 am

Sounds like a paranoical speech from a tea party member. Mexicans are too stronk they will ruin American Anglo-Saxon culture, kill them all! - Sounds like that.
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Postby BPSR » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:21 am

Wisconsin9 wrote:What in the ever-loving fuck are you talking about?

The average fascist in a nutshell this guy is.
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Gigaverse » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:21 am

Wisconsin9 wrote:What in the ever-loving fuck are you talking about?

The demonstration of how George "Is Our Children Learning" Bush got voted in the first place.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:22 am

>socialists want people to be lazy bums
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Blorbs » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:22 am

Socialists made up politically correctness? No they didn't, and I am a socialist and hate the new 'politically correct' movement that is happening and think its dumb. Just be nice and get over it if someone uses a wording you don't like.

And also, what does it matter what liberals before wanted? If the average liberal of today wants something it shouldn't have to be compared to the average liberal of 50 years ago (Or a hundred, in the situation of in the US where democrats were *for* slavery, and I doubt anybody wants to and is at all associated with that)
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Postby The Great Devourer of All » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:22 am

Cuprum wrote:Sounds like a paranoical speech from a tea oarty member. Mexicans are too stronk they will ruin American Anglo Saxon culture, kill them all!

Yuz, very true. Same for Muslims, Atheists, Libertarians, African-Americans, and basically anyone who isn't a white straight protestant republican rich guy over the age of thirty.
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Pro: Jellyfish

Anti: Heretics


Yymea wrote:We would definitely be scared of what is probably the most scary nation on NS :p


Multiversal Venn-Copard wrote:Actually fairly threatening by our standards. And this time we really mean "threatening". As in, "we'll actually need to escalate significantly to match their fleets."


Valkalan wrote:10/10 Profoundly evil. Some nations conqueror others for wealth and prestige, but the Devourer consumes civilization like a cancer consuming an unfortunate host.


The Speaker wrote:Intemperate in the sea from the roof, and leg All night, and he knows lots of reads from the unseen good old man of the mountain-DESTRUCTION
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:24 am

....The hell? That's all I have to say.

Look, I may not agree with most of what Liberals, at least here in America, stand for... But damn son, you just ranted and I couldn't even understand you. Rather than help your 'Anti-Leftist Crusade' as I shall call it, you are hurting it. Lastly, this site doesn't have mandatory welfare for your nation. Last I checked, I had no welfare.
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:25 am

The Great Devourer of All wrote:
Cuprum wrote:Sounds like a paranoical speech from a tea oarty member. Mexicans are too stronk they will ruin American Anglo Saxon culture, kill them all!

Yuz, very true. Same for Muslims, Atheists, Libertarians, African-Americans, and basically anyone who isn't a white straight protestant republican rich guy over the age of thirty.

Don't forget the fact you need to have bad hair.
Last Edited By George S. Patton on December 21, 1945 edited 3 times in total

Pro: Mixed Market Economies, Education, Guns but with some common sense restrictions, UBI, Literally Actual Civil Rights
Neutral: Democrats, UN, NATO
Anti: Republicanism, Performative Allyship, Terrorism, North Korea, Trump, Clinton, Fascism, Authoritarianism in any form
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Cuprum
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Postby Cuprum » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:26 am

The perfect goverment will be a Right-wing president with a left-wing congress or viceversa.
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Postby GreatestBanks » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:27 am

Cuprum wrote:The perfect goverment will be a Right-wing president with a left-wing congress or viceversa.

Yes, best that no new laws are past since all new laws are sh*t
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Blorbs
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Blorbs » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:27 am

Cuprum wrote:The perfect goverment will be a Right-wing president with a left-wing congress or viceversa.

So… Centrism?
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Postby Cuprum » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:28 am

Blorbs wrote:
Cuprum wrote:The perfect goverment will be a Right-wing president with a left-wing congress or viceversa.

So… Centrism?


Nah... Centrism has a tendency to be third way or universal fascism. I don't know if third way works in America.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:29 am

This is not your blog.
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