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Postby Pasovo-nacoBo » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:23 pm

Who?

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Postby Ghuraba Al-Khorusani » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:24 pm

I hate them all.
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Postby Ghuraba Al-Khorusani » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:27 pm

Keynsinia wrote:They're a bunch of left wing nerds who don't understand Guy Fawkes that want to dish out the bullying they were/are given in order to feel like they have some sort of power and control, when really, they are annoying.

exactly I agree 100%
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Postby Legitimists » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:30 pm

Since there is no unified group one could really call Anonymous; it depends on what the particular group of people is doing at a particular time.
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Postby TotallyNotEvilLand » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:31 pm

Ghuraba Al-Khorusani wrote:
Keynsinia wrote:They're a bunch of left wing nerds who don't understand Guy Fawkes that want to dish out the bullying they were/are given in order to feel like they have some sort of power and control, when really, they are annoying.

exactly I agree 100%

Huh, almost sounds like a lotta far right-wingers I know.
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Postby Mensirada Nysgceballada Ghebanea » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:33 pm

Mob of fools using the brand name "Anonymous" for their own causes.
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Postby Ghuraba Al-Khorusani » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:40 pm

TotallyNotEvilLand wrote:
Ghuraba Al-Khorusani wrote:exactly I agree 100%

Huh, almost sounds like a lotta far right-wingers I know.

Isn't Anonymous the definition of edgy
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Postby TotallyNotEvilLand » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:42 pm

Ghuraba Al-Khorusani wrote:
TotallyNotEvilLand wrote:Huh, almost sounds like a lotta far right-wingers I know.

Isn't Anonymous the definition of edgy

Oh, yeah. The 4chan Neckbeard Brigade sitting behind their laptops stuffing their face with doritos.

At the very least they could be doing more vigilante shit instead of shutting down gaming networks.
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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:51 pm

What do I think of a loose "group" of capable hackers with varying moral compass directions?

If they keep to productive and socially beneficial work then I don't see a problem, such as wiping ISIS networks out.
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Postby Esternial » Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:07 pm

I kinda like the concept, sort of. It's intriguing in some ways.

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Postby ISAF-Usea » Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:11 pm

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Samnoreg wrote:I really couldn't care less about them. If they are "anti-semitic," fuck 'em. They haven't done anything really constructive anyway, so no need to throw support behind a few neckbeards on 4chan.


It's not like their fighting ISIS or anything.


They actually are...
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:19 pm

ISAF-Usea wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
It's not like their fighting ISIS or anything.


They actually are...


Doing what, exactly?
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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:20 pm

I view them as outlaws.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:33 pm

Many hipsters claim to be a part of them.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:53 pm

Merizoc wrote:Guy Fawkes's motives and actions aren't too important given that the inspiration for the Anonymous mask is from V for Vendetta, not the original source material.

Actually the real origin of the V mask was an inside joke that had nothing to do with V for Vendetta, it's when they realized that the mask was a good way to protest without getting IDed and the symbolism that could be used from it, such as the end of the movie having everyone in masks representing everyone, that they adopted it.
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Postby Valystria » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:04 pm

They should be banned. They are a threat to public order and have been involved in numerous crimes against the state.

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:12 pm

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:18 pm

Valystria wrote:They should be banned. They are a threat to public order and have been involved in numerous crimes against the state.


Just because you ban it won't make it go away.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:20 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Valystria wrote:They should be banned. They are a threat to public order and have been involved in numerous crimes against the state.


Just because you ban it won't make it go away.


Drugs and guns will attest to that.
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Postby Valystria » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:24 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Valystria wrote:They should be banned. They are a threat to public order and have been involved in numerous crimes against the state.


Just because you ban it won't make it go away.

Strawman?

Explain what it is you're going for. No one claimed a ban would make Anonymous go away.

Taking your reasoning to its fullest extent, "banning murder hasn't made murder go away, let's legalize it."

Firstly, there are a multitude of reasons for bans as there are benefits for bans. Secondly, if only bans that can make the banned item/action/organization go away are acceptable, there would be no bans on anything.

It's fine if you want to disagree with banning anonymous, but if you're going to maintain that position then justify it with something other than flawed reasoning.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:24 pm

If you want to actually make a statement, you shouldn't be afraid to let people know who you are
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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:25 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:If you want to actually make a statement, you shouldn't be afraid to let people know who you are

Maybe if you live in the US. Not so much if you live in Shanghai or Riyadh.
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Postby Valystria » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:27 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:If you want to actually make a statement, you shouldn't be afraid to let people know who you are

Maybe if you live in the US. Not so much if you live in Shanghai or Riyadh.

Or any Islamic country, for that matter.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:27 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:If you want to actually make a statement, you shouldn't be afraid to let people know who you are

Maybe if you live in the US. Not so much if you live in Shanghai or Riyadh.

Still, a bunch of people hiding behind computors aint the same as someone openly standing up.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:27 pm

Valystria wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Just because you ban it won't make it go away.

Strawman?

Explain what it is you're going for. No one claimed a ban would make Anonymous go away.

Taking your reasoning to its fullest extent, "banning murder hasn't made murder go away, let's legalize it."

Firstly, there are a multitude of reasons for bans as there are benefits for bans. Secondly, if only bans that can make the banned item/action/organization go away are acceptable, there would be no bans on anything.

It's fine if you want to disagree with banning anonymous, but if you're going to maintain that position then justify it with something other than flawed reasoning.


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You are aware the shit they do is already illegal right? What in the name of fuck would your ban even do?
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