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Postby Nilla Wayfarers » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:53 pm

MacFee wrote:
Nilla Wayfarers wrote:Say what you want, but they weren't the ones terrorizing and raping women in a quarter of the United States. White men were.

As I said: White men need to GTFO and go back to their recliners.


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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:53 pm

Terminus Alpha wrote:
Western Pacific Territories wrote:I think Indonesia is Muslim too.

It's the largest Muslim country in the world.

Galloism wrote:It's basically tattooine over there, except Christians live in Mos Eisley, Jawas are westerners stealing stuff and then selling it back, and those dirty Moslems are the Sand People.


Dubai - you will never find a greater hive of scum and villainy.

Didn't even see Indonesia in the list... I think the sheer rage and stupidity is making me blind.

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Postby Talvezout » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:53 pm

Oh shit, I remember you. You were the guy who called a 12 year old kid a thug and said that he deserved to get shot. Fun times.

Also, you could say this with about anyone with very little evidence, you know that, right?

"Those dirty white people should go back to Europe where they belong! They've been stealing our land, burning our villages, and raping our women!"

"Those dirty Christians should go back to Europe where they belong! They've been conquering our land, stealing our stuff, and attacking our people!"

"Those dirty brown people should go back to Mexico where they belong! They've been stealing our jobs, altering our culture, and taking our women!"

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Postby Galloism » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:54 pm

Striton wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:The Bible says to stone gays, adulterers, and disobedient children.

Stoning adulterers doesn't sound half bad imo. We could use some of that in this STD-rampant world. But that's for another thread,

Free weed for adulterers is a weird policy, but ok.
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Postby Kubra » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:54 pm

MacFee wrote:
Nilla Wayfarers wrote:Say what you want, but they weren't the ones terrorizing and raping women in a quarter of the United States. White men were.

As I said: White men need to GTFO and go back to their recliners.


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Postby The Isolationist State Of Islam » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:54 pm

Mega City 5 wrote:
Kubra wrote: You know we're talking about christian refugees, yeah?


Yes. Christian refugees should be let in. Muslims? They need to stay the fuck out.

Their beliefs make them intrinsically subversive against the Western way of life. Sharia law and Western political theory do not mix. Period.

And again, this has been borne out historically.

Charles Martel?
Lepanto?

Yes, instead of showing them western ideologies, keep them in an area that's being torn to shit by war! That has been known to work great! Especially in area's with poor economies. I mean it's worked great in Europe too! Just look at Germany, they turned out fine in the end! Instead of helping the civilians in the shit storm the west caused, let them get shot, and bombed. I'm sure they won't have any harsh feelings towards the West after that! Meanwhile, lets ramp up the bombings to stop this flow of refugees. In other words, lets drop bombs to stop the flow of people trying to get away from the bombs!
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Postby The Klishi Islands » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:54 pm

Dazhang wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:The Bible says to stone gays, adulterers, and disobedient children.

Catholics just do what the Pope tells them, that's why I'm pretend Catholic.

Catholics are not the only people who follow the Bible, last I checked.
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Postby Kratu » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:54 pm

Dictatorship Of South Eaka wrote:
Mega City 5 wrote:
Say what you want, but they weren't the ones terrorizing and raping women in Cologne. Muslims were.

As I said: Muslims need to GTFO and go back to their deserts.


Implying that all Muslim countrys are deserts....


I love the deserts of Indonesia.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:55 pm

Nilla Wayfarers wrote:
Mega City 5 wrote:
Say what you want, but they weren't the ones terrorizing and raping women in Cologne. Muslims were.

As I said: Muslims need to GTFO and go back to their deserts.

Say what you want, but they weren't the ones terrorizing and raping women in a quarter of the United States. White men were.

As I said: White men need to GTFO and go back to their recliners.


Since America has such high levels of gun violence, we should not be allowed to go to Europe.
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Postby Yuganesia » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:55 pm

Mega City 5 wrote:Why do liberals think that it's a good idea to permit Muslims to immigrate into the West in such massive numbers?

Conservatives have been insisting, over and over again, that if we let in Muslims into the US and Europe, we are going to see more crime, more terrorism, and more problems for us.

The liberals, of course, seem to think that this won't happen, and imply that we are bigots and racists for even thinking that.

Well, lo and behold, there are more and more Muslims in Europe, and we are seeing more and more crime, more rape, and a whole bunch of other problems that didn't use to be there. Sweden is the rape capital of Europe because of Muslims.

And when we point out things like this, liberals seem to have no coherent answer for us. The most that you people can muster is: "But it's only a small minority. Most of them aren't like that. If you want to get rid of all of them because of the actions of a few, then you are a racist!"

Meanwhile, of course, they would never accept this argument from the NRA: "But only a small minority of guns are used for illegal activities. Most gun owners are responsible. If you want to pass stricter laws for all gun-owners because of the actions of a few, then you are anti-freedom, anti-self defense and anti-constitution!"

The simple fact is this:

"Small minority" or not, Europe (and soon, I bet, the US) is facing problems that it didn't have to face before, and the cause of these problems is Islamic immigration. They need to get out and stay out. Period. End of story.

You disagree with me? Then that just tells me that you value this "diversity" liberal nonsense more than you actually value law, order and safety.

So, again, I ask you:

Why do you think this is a good idea? What are your arguments in favor of this?

For centuries, muslims have attemlted to adapt to westernized culture. Time and time again they failed and made other people suffer as a result of their intolerant teachings and violent behaviors. The west is not for some people, and muslims are far from ready to live here. Stop mass immigration now and stop this European genocide.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:55 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:No, it's a violation of the Fourteenth Amendment.

It violates both of them.


How does someone who is in another country immigrating to the USA have any sort of Constitutional protections, before they get here?
So there wouldn't be any violations.

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Postby MacFee » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:55 pm

Striton wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:The Bible says to stone gays, adulterers, and disobedient children.

Stoning adulterers doesn't sound half bad imo. We could use some of that in this STD-rampant world. But that's for another thread,


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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:55 pm

Galloism wrote:
Striton wrote:Stoning adulterers doesn't sound half bad imo. We could use some of that in this STD-rampant world. But that's for another thread,

Free weed for adulterers is a weird policy, but ok.

It's brilliant! Get the adulterers stoned, they'll feel tired and too lazy to pass around STD's, and the STD rate goes down, eventually making AIDS go extinct.

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Postby The Klishi Islands » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:55 pm

Galloism wrote:
Striton wrote:Stoning adulterers doesn't sound half bad imo. We could use some of that in this STD-rampant world. But that's for another thread,

Free weed for adulterers is a weird policy, but ok.

I could get behind this :p
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Postby Exxosia » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:56 pm

It's because it's intentional. It's all designed to destroy freedoms throughout the west while padding the coffers of those that stand to gain the most from a constant state of warfare and tragedy.

Step 1: Rampage around the world to create refugees and extremists.
Step 2: Gently coerce the refugees and extremists into a small zone near Western Mediterranean.
Step 3: Enable extremists, train and arm them.
Step 4: Try to act surprised when they turn into Daesh.
Step 5: Demolish small zone resulting in refugee crisis.
Step 6: Refugees that are ill-equipped to function in Europe and North America flood in, carrying a small proportion of extremists with them.
Step 7: Refugees do not know how to behave in Europe and North America (no fault of their own, they never set out to live in these places, it is just where the road took them), fostering ill-will between them and natives whilst pushing both groups towards extremist views. Pre-existing extremists commit heinous acts, further fueling the fires.
Step 8: Massive wars throughout the west.
Step 9: PROFIT AND POWER!

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Postby Nilla Wayfarers » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:56 pm

Galloism wrote:
Striton wrote:Stoning adulterers doesn't sound half bad imo. We could use some of that in this STD-rampant world. But that's for another thread,

Free weed for adulterers is a weird policy, but ok.

I have to admit, it took a second.
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Postby Talvezout » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:56 pm

Mega City 5 wrote:
Galloism wrote:eh, dunno.

Of course, I'm not sure how you test it someone's Muslim or not. Make them eat pork maybe?


I propose a "Muslim shibboleth" test:

Give the immigrant a beer and a bacon cheeseburger and make sure that he consumes them both. Further demand that he burn a Quran and call Mohammad a disgusting child rapist.

He does those things? Let him in.

He refuses to do at least 2 out of 4 of those things? Summary execution.


I don't like beer and I don't like bacon. I don't want to burn a Quran and by your interpretation, half of the world in the first half of the 1st millennium were child rapists.

Does that make me Muslim?

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Postby Geilinor » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:56 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:It violates both of them.


How does someone who is in another country immigrating to the USA have any sort of Constitutional protections, before they get here?
So there wouldn't be any violations.

Mega City 5 wants all Muslims, including those already here, to leave.
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Postby Saanland » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:56 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Striton wrote:And? Imprison and mercilessly torture anyone who's a criminal, not everyone who just happened to be born in with a violent religion.

Strawman fallacy won't help your case very much, since I never advocated or claimed to advocate for killing muslims, I simply tore down false equivalences.

Well you do have "pro: Republika Srpska" in your signature man....
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Postby North Amerikan Reich » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:56 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:Saying all Muslims should be banned from a certain country is racist. You cannot generalize an entire ethic group based on the actions of a few bad apples.

You say that as if racism is a bad thing... We are not all the same. Different groups of people evolved/were created differently and will behave differently. In addition, Islamic culture and Western culture are in many aspects very different and incomparable. Most of these Islamic migrants do not wish to integrate into western society at all.
One day you leftists will see the destruction brought forth by your integration, multiculturalism, and diversity. These immigrants come here and rape our women, riot in our streets, oppress females, murder and commit acts of terrorism on a massive scale, and yet you cry racism when we point out facts about how these diversification plans are harmful. Once they have the numbers, they will try to implement Sharia law and then every Christian, Jew, Atheist, pagan or whatever kind of non-Muslim an individual may be will be at risk. Look at how in Syria, there are many different factions such as ISIS, the FSA, and Al-Nusura all fighting against secularism and minority rights.
If you love these people so much then why don't you go and live amongst them and see how they like you. Otherwise, do not try to flood the west with potential terrorists.

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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:56 pm

Exiling Hitler wannabes like the OP would probably do a far better job at curtailing violence, really.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:56 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:It violates both of them.


How does someone who is in another country immigrating to the USA have any sort of Constitutional protections, before they get here?
So there wouldn't be any violations.


Religion cannot be taken into consideration during the immigration process (which is in the US). It does not matter that the person is not here, the institution they are trying to use is here.
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Postby Dazhang » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:57 pm

The Klishi Islands wrote:Catholics are not the only people who follow the Bible, last I checked.

Maybe they should be.

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Postby Nilla Wayfarers » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:57 pm

Exxosia wrote:It's because it's intentional. It's all designed to destroy freedoms throughout the west while padding the coffers of those that stand to gain the most from a constant state of warfare and tragedy.

Step 1: Rampage around the world to create refugees and extremists.
Step 2: Gently coerce the refugees and extremists into a small zone near Western Mediterranean.
Step 3: Enable extremists, train and arm them.
Step 4: Try to act surprised when they turn into Daesh.
Step 5: Demolish small zone resulting in refugee crisis.
Step 6: Refugees that are ill-equipped to function in Europe and North America flood in, carrying a small proportion of extremists with them.
Step 7: Refugees do not know how to behave in Europe and North America (no fault of their own, they never set out to live in these places, it is just where the road took them), fostering ill-will between them and natives whilst pushing both groups towards extremist views. Pre-existing extremists commit heinous acts, further fueling the fires.
Step 8: Massive wars throughout the west.
Step 9: PROFIT AND POWER!

Wow, it's like a 12-step program without the last three steps.
And 12 times less logical.
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:57 pm

Talvezout wrote:
Mega City 5 wrote:
I propose a "Muslim shibboleth" test:

Give the immigrant a beer and a bacon cheeseburger and make sure that he consumes them both. Further demand that he burn a Quran and call Mohammad a disgusting child rapist.

He does those things? Let him in.

He refuses to do at least 2 out of 4 of those things? Summary execution.


I don't like beer and I don't like bacon. I don't want to burn a Quran and by your interpretation, half of the world in the first half of the 1st millennium were child rapists.

Does that make me Muslim?

You don't like bacon!? Non-bacon eaters don't deserve to exist, send 'em back to non-bacon land.

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