Are We or Aren't We Alone the Universe?

[United Marxist Nations]

You're watching too much hentai there, Chess.

Every time I try to touch such argument in real world, they told me so.
The matter is that I don't watch hentai, nor porn, not at all.

Species is just live-action hentai, Chess.

As for the question of advanced life, I would say that:
1) There is no reason to assume life evolves to sentience and/or sapience inevitably.
2) There is no reason to assume that technology would advance inevitably if they reach a capability for technology.
3) There is no reason to assume that technology would advance in the same manner that ours has if they technologically advance.

With these three in-mind, I would say that it is possible that our idea of advanced alien life may be extraordinarily rare.

[Pandeeria]

Every time I try to touch such argument in real world, they told me so.
The matter is that I don't watch hentai, nor porn, not at all.

Species is just live-action hentai, Chess.

I fucking quit.

As for the question of advanced life, I would say that:
1) There is no reason to assume life evolves to sentience and/or sapience inevitably.
2) There is no reason to assume that technology would advance inevitably if they reach a capability for technology.
3) There is no reason to assume that technology would advance in the same manner that ours has if they technologically advance.

With these three in-mind, I would say that it is possible that our idea of advanced alien life may be extraordinarily rare.

What do you mean by that? As in, how the fundamental basis of their entire civilization works is different or something else?

Also, advanced life has to be self-aware, it has to be sentient. Without sentience, I don't think you can consider any life form to advanced in the technological sense.

[United Marxist Nations]

Species is just live-action hentai, Chess.

1) I fucking quit.

As for the question of advanced life, I would say that:
1) There is no reason to assume life evolves to sentience and/or sapience inevitably.
2) There is no reason to assume that technology would advance inevitably if they reach a capability for technology.
3) There is no reason to assume that technology would advance in the same manner that ours has if they technologically advance.

With these three in-mind, I would say that it is possible that our idea of advanced alien life may be extraordinarily rare.

2) What do you mean by that? As in, how the fundamental basis of their entire civilization works is different or something else?

1) the opportunity for lulz was too great, my friend.

2) Yes. There is no reason to assume that they would even form a civilization; and, if they did, there is no reason to assume their civilization would proceed along the same lines as ours has, because their ecology could be entirely different.

[Pandeeria]

1) I fucking quit.



2) What do you mean by that? As in, how the fundamental basis of their entire civilization works is different or something else?

1) the opportunity for lulz was too great, my friend.

2) Yes. There is no reason to assume that they would even form a civilization; and, if they did, there is no reason to assume their civilization would proceed along the same lines as ours has, because their ecology could be entirely different.

But without a civilization how can they even be considered "advanced", as in advanced enough to communicate with decently or to interact mutually with.

[Syrixia]

There must be some other sapient life out there, somewhere.

I like to think that somewhere in the Universe, an alien species is wondering about the same question.

Sapient life is still too specific and arrogant. We are probably the only sapient life forms.

Life on Earth was a happy accident. There IS CERTAINLY life out there but it probably acts, communicates, and looks completely uncomprehendable to us. They might be trying to get a signal to us right now too; but they're doing it so differently we miss them and vice versa for us signaling them.

We are not the only life in the universe, obviously, but I can certainly say that sapient lifeforms as a specific type of lifeforms are confined to Earth and are alone.

[United Marxist Nations]

1) the opportunity for lulz was too great, my friend.

2) Yes. There is no reason to assume that they would even form a civilization; and, if they did, there is no reason to assume their civilization would proceed along the same lines as ours has, because their ecology could be entirely different.

But without a civilization how can they even be considered "advanced", as in advanced enough to communicate with decently or to interact mutually with.

That is what I mean: it is perhaps extremely unlikely a society like ours exists.

[Pandeeria]

But without a civilization how can they even be considered "advanced", as in advanced enough to communicate with decently or to interact mutually with.

That is what I mean: it is perhaps extremely unlikely a society like ours exists.

So you think the idea of advanced life is very unlikely? How about less-than-advanced life?

[Anollasia]

We aren't.

[United Marxist Nations]

That is what I mean: it is perhaps extremely unlikely a society like ours exists.

So you think the idea of advanced life is very unlikely? How about less-than-advanced life?

It's not that I think advanced life is very unlikely, just life that follows the same path as we did. They may not require something like agriculture for whatever reason, and thus would never have any reason to develop mechanized agriculture, irrigation, and other agricultural technology. Does that mean they are less "advanced" than us? Not really. Likewise, they may have skipped over whole phases of development that we went through because their technology developed in an entirely different direction than ours did. Or they may have reached a point where development slows down and advances slowly for some time. Even something like the industrial revolution is far from inevitable (I mean, it only happened in one place on our planet, as opposed to agriculture happening in multiple places on its own).

[Korhal IVV]

The aliens aren't interested in our lowly technology so they don't care about making contact.

Edit: Oh wait. The UFOs.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The aliens aren't interested in our lowly technology so they don't care about making contact.

Edit: Oh wait. The UFOs.

What if we're more advanced

[San Lumen]

I don't believe the Fermi Paradox or rare earth. We have found quite a few potentially habitable planets. The closest yet discovered is around the star Wolf 1061 a red dwarf only 14 light years away! I find it very hard to believe that intelligent life and civilizations are rare and we and the ONLY one.

[United Marxist Nations]

I don't believe the Fermi Paradox or rare earth. We have found quite a few potentially habitable planets. The closest yet discovered is around the star Wolf 1061 a red dwarf only 14 light years away! I find it very hard to believe that intelligent life and civilizations are rare and we and the ONLY one.

They don't have to be rare necessarily, just infrequent. It took 4 billion years or so for our planet to develop what we call civilization. What of planets whose intelligent has ended or haven't evolved yet?

[Len Hyet]

I've thought about this question a lot recently. When scientists or people say we are alone in the universe and come up with crazy theories as to why it bugs me.

Its beyond arrogant to say this is the only planet in the entire universe that has life and in order to have intelligent life you must have conditions exactly like that of Earth and our solar system. We will never find a planet or star or solar system exactly like ours. All planets adapt to their stars.

We have found life in some of the most inhospitable places on Earth. What's to say life could not develop on other planets in conditions very different from Earth? I accept that liquid water is likely needed but perhaps it might not be.

Some also say if aliens do exist why haven't we had first contact yet or had definitive proof of their existence? Firstly we can only scan a small part of the sky at one time and secondly maybe extraterrestrials don't want to contact us directly?

I think there is absolutely other intelligent life in the universe and ridiculous to think otherwise. I even think its plausible extraterrestrial beings might have visited us in the distant past but i know i will get flack for saying that.

What do you all think? What is your response to a question that has been asked for decades?

Nobody knows, there's no evidence for or against either side, please for the love of God can we stop making this exact same thread every few months. It's tedious.

[San Lumen]

Someone quoted Arthur C. Clarke's famous quote earlier. I think its far more terrifying finding out we are alone then finding out we aren't.

[Pandeeria]

I don't believe the Fermi Paradox or rare earth. We have found quite a few potentially habitable planets. The closest yet discovered is around the star Wolf 1061 a red dwarf only 14 light years away! I find it very hard to believe that intelligent life and civilizations are rare and we and the ONLY one.

They don't have to be rare necessarily, just infrequent. It took 4 billion years or so for our planet to develop what we call civilization. What of planets whose intelligent has ended or haven't evolved yet?

Those species which have only begun evolving will be Native Americans 2.0

So you think the idea of advanced life is very unlikely? How about less-than-advanced life?

It's not that I think advanced life is very unlikely, just life that follows the same path as we did. They may not require something like agriculture for whatever reason, and thus would never have any reason to develop mechanized agriculture, irrigation, and other agricultural technology. Does that mean they are less "advanced" than us? Not really. Likewise, they may have skipped over whole phases of development that we went through because their technology developed in an entirely different direction than ours did. Or they may have reached a point where development slows down and advances slowly for some time. Even something like the industrial revolution is far from inevitable (I mean, it only happened in one place on our planet, as opposed to agriculture happening in multiple places on its own).

I don't see how a species is advanced if it doesn't live in a civilized, relatively centralized life style.

[Siburria]

No we are not alone, however space is so huge humankind could possibly never meet any aliens for the entirety of its existence.

[Korhal IVV]

The aliens aren't interested in our lowly technology so they don't care about making contact.

Edit: Oh wait. The UFOs.

What if we're more advanced

Then they won't be able to come here in the first place, since they would need warp drives to travel here

[San Lumen]

No we are not alone, however space is so huge humankind could possibly never meet any aliens for the entirety of its existence.

Thats not necessarily true. What's to say aliens haven't visited in the past? Or they can;t travel through wormholes to get here? There is no evidence wormholes exist but no evidence they don't.

[Korhal IVV]

No we are not alone, however space is so huge humankind could possibly never meet any aliens for the entirety of its existence.

Thats not necessarily true. What's to say aliens haven't visited in the past? Or they can;t travel through wormholes to get here? There is no evidence wormholes exist but no evidence they don't.

UFO's. Maybe the "gods" the ancients talk about are actually powerful alien visitors.

[Len Hyet]

Someone quoted Arthur C. Clarke's famous quote earlier. I think its far more terrifying finding out we are alone then finding out we aren't.

That is an exceedingly stupid quote, and Arthur C. Clarke was clearly in the habit of excessive exaggeration when he made it. The most terrifying option is that there's a massive alien empire out there coming for us with the sole intention of torturing us for all eternity which is actually possible thanks to their advanced sciences.

Compared to that humanity being alone in the universe is a fucking holiday.

[San Lumen]

Thats not necessarily true. What's to say aliens haven't visited in the past? Or they can;t travel through wormholes to get here? There is no evidence wormholes exist but no evidence they don't.

UFO's. Maybe the "gods" the ancients talk about are actually powerful alien visitors.

The show Ancient Aliens has talked about that before. I don';t believe everything on that show but i think its entirely possible extraterrestrials have visited Earth in the past.

[United Marxist Nations]

They don't have to be rare necessarily, just infrequent. It took 4 billion years or so for our planet to develop what we call civilization. What of planets whose intelligent has ended or haven't evolved yet?

Those species which have only begun evolving will be Native Americans 2.0

It's not that I think advanced life is very unlikely, just life that follows the same path as we did. They may not require something like agriculture for whatever reason, and thus would never have any reason to develop mechanized agriculture, irrigation, and other agricultural technology. Does that mean they are less "advanced" than us? Not really. Likewise, they may have skipped over whole phases of development that we went through because their technology developed in an entirely different direction than ours did. Or they may have reached a point where development slows down and advances slowly for some time. Even something like the industrial revolution is far from inevitable (I mean, it only happened in one place on our planet, as opposed to agriculture happening in multiple places on its own).

I don't see how a species is advanced if it doesn't live in a civilized, relatively centralized life style.

Because you are only considering the direction of evolution and technology that took place with our species, and not even all parts of our species.

[United Marxist Nations]

Thats not necessarily true. What's to say aliens haven't visited in the past? Or they can;t travel through wormholes to get here? There is no evidence wormholes exist but no evidence they don't.

UFO's. Maybe the "gods" the ancients talk about are actually powerful alien visitors.

Pretty unlikely. Our ancestors were smarter than you might give them credit for. Smart enough to have probably called that bluff.

[Pandeeria]

Those species which have only begun evolving will be Native Americans 2.0



I don't see how a species is advanced if it doesn't live in a civilized, relatively centralized life style.

Because you are only considering the direction of evolution and technology that took place with our species, and not even all parts of our species.

How is living alone in a chaotic fashion of constant competition just as advanced forming complex institutions from which abide to basic legal and civil codes and develop infrastructure?