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Are We or Aren't We Alone the Universe?

Postby San Lumen » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:41 pm

I've thought about this question a lot recently. When scientists or people say we are alone in the universe and come up with crazy theories as to why it bugs me.

Its beyond arrogant to say this is the only planet in the entire universe that has life and in order to have intelligent life you must have conditions exactly like that of Earth and our solar system. We will never find a planet or star or solar system exactly like ours. All planets adapt to their stars.

We have found life in some of the most inhospitable places on Earth. What's to say life could not develop on other planets in conditions very different from Earth? I accept that liquid water is likely needed but perhaps it might not be.

Some also say if aliens do exist why haven't we had first contact yet or had definitive proof of their existence? Firstly we can only scan a small part of the sky at one time and secondly maybe extraterrestrials don't want to contact us directly?

I think there is absolutely other intelligent life in the universe and ridiculous to think otherwise. I even think its plausible extraterrestrial beings might have visited us in the distant past but i know i will get flack for saying that.

What do you all think? What is your response to a question that has been asked for decades?
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Postby Jochistan » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:42 pm

We can't be. It's so vast that it's impossible that we're the only life there is.
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Postby Dytarma » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:43 pm

Jochistan wrote:We can't be. It's so vast that it's impossible that we're the only life there is.

That is true.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:44 pm

Jochistan wrote:We can't be. It's so vast that it's impossible that we're the only life there is.

Absolutely true. There is no way we are alone and its beyond arrogant to say we are.

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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:44 pm

I'm almost certain that there is other life out there.
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Postby Sanctissima » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:45 pm

There must be some other sapient life out there, somewhere.

I like to think that somewhere in the Universe, an alien species is wondering about the same question.

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Postby UIJ » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:45 pm

San Lumen wrote:I've thought about this question a lot recently. When scientist or people say we are alone in the universe and come up crazy theories as to why it bugs me.

Its beyond arrogant to say this is the only planet in the entire universe that has life and in order to have intelligent life you must have conditions exactly like that of Earth and our solar system. We will never find a planet or star or solar system exactly like ours. All planets adapt to their stars.

We have found life in some of the most inhospitable places on Earth. What's to say life could not develop on other planets in conditions very different from Earth? I accept that liquid water is likely needed but perhaps it might not be.

Some also say if aliens do exist why haven't we had first contact yet or had definitive proof of their existence? Firstly we can only scan a small part of the sky at one time and secondly maybe extraterrestrials don't want to contact us directly?

I think there is absolutely other intelligent life in the universe and ridiculous to think otherwise. I even think its plausible extraterrestrial beings might have visited us in the distant past but i know i will get flack for saying that.

What do you all think? What is your response to a question that has been asked for decades?

Scientist are sure we aren't. Just look at one Jupiter's moons, I can't remember the name but scientist believe there might be living bacteria/organisms under its ice.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:46 pm

UIJ you are thinking of Europa

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Postby Visegradian Poland » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:47 pm

No because Jesus visited us you brainwashed illuminatis.
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Postby UIJ » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:48 pm

San Lumen wrote:UIJ you are thinking of Europa

Ahh, yes I that it was that, but I wasn't 100% sure.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:49 pm

Visegradian Poland wrote:No because Jesus visited us you brainwashed illuminatis.

Alien Jesuses confirmed. Why? Illuminati!
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:50 pm

Jochistan wrote:We can't be. It's so vast that it's impossible that we're the only life there is.


Intelligent or even complex life, on the other hand...
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Postby Visegradian Poland » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:51 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Visegradian Poland wrote:No because Jesus visited us you brainwashed illuminatis.

Alien Jesuses confirmed. Why? Illuminati!

There is not one, there is 2??
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Postby Myrensis » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:52 pm

San Lumen wrote:UIJ you are thinking of Europa


I believe Saturn's moon Enceladus is also considered a good candidate for life.

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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:52 pm

Visegradian Poland wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Alien Jesuses confirmed. Why? Illuminati!

There is not one, there is 2??

There are OVER 9000!
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Postby UIJ » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:53 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Jochistan wrote:We can't be. It's so vast that it's impossible that we're the only life there is.


Intelligent or even complex life, on the other hand...

There may only be single cell organisms, but I like to think if there was alien life out there, they'd be on-par with our tech.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:55 pm

UIJ wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Intelligent or even complex life, on the other hand...

There may only be single cell organisms, but I like to think if there was alien life out there, they'd be on-par with our tech.

That's highly unlikely. Most alien life would either be primitive or incomprehensibly advanced.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:55 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
UIJ wrote:There may only be single cell organisms, but I like to think if there was alien life out there, they'd be on-par with our tech.

That's highly unlikely. Most alien life would either be primitive or incomprehensibly advanced.


What do you mean by primitive?

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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:56 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:That's highly unlikely. Most alien life would either be primitive or incomprehensibly advanced.

What do you mean by primitive?

They would not have technology in any definition of the word.
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Postby UIJ » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:57 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
UIJ wrote:There may only be single cell organisms, but I like to think if there was alien life out there, they'd be on-par with our tech.

That's highly unlikely. Most alien life would either be primitive or incomprehensibly advanced.

What makes you believe that? Because all aliens have to be dumb or super smart?
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Postby Anywhere Else But Here » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:59 pm

I guess you could say we're alone in the sense that we'll always be too far away to make meaningful contact with another species. Sort of like how you can be alone on public transport, even though you're surrounded by people you're separated by lightyears of good social convention (in this metaphor, FTL travel is the prick who insists on striking up a conversation).

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Postby Jordkloden » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:59 pm

“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.”


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Postby UIJ » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:59 pm

Anywhere Else But Here wrote:I guess you could say we're alone in the sense that we'll always be too far away to make meaningful contact with another species. Sort of like how you can be alone on public transport, even though you're surrounded by people you're separated by lightyears of good social convention (in this metaphor, FTL travel is the prick who insists on striking up a conversation).

:lol2:
I am tired of summies :alas:
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Anti: if your lore so much as fucking dare mention the US, UK, Russia, Japan, or Germany I will throw radioactive hoosh shit all over you and everyone and everything you have ever loved, NSG, NSGers (all of them)

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:00 pm

Jordkloden wrote:“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.”


― Arthur C. Clarke

I think finding out we are alone is far more terrifying than finding out we are not.

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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:02 pm

UIJ wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:That's highly unlikely. Most alien life would either be primitive or incomprehensibly advanced.

What makes you believe that? Because all aliens have to be dumb or super smart?

"For four-fifths of our history, our planet was populated by pond scum." -- J. W. Schopf

Modern civilization is a blip on the cosmic radar. Encountering alien life around a stage of development even remotely similar to our own would be miraculous.
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