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Would or would you not consider appointing Obama to the US Supreme Court.

I would consider appointing Obama to the US Supreme Court.
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I would absolutely not consider appointing Obama to the US Supreme Court.
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Postby AiliailiA » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:42 pm

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Galloism wrote:Honestly, he's too far right for my tastes, but if Scalia he was replacing, that would be a good change. Definitely a good change.

Anyone is better than Scalia.


Really? Rush Limbaugh or Donald Trump? How about Charles Manson?
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Postby Valystria » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:43 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:Anyone is better than Scalia.


Really? Rush Limbaugh or Donald Trump? How about Charles Manson?

Yes, all those would be an improvement, with the possible exception of Rush who would at worst be on the same level as Scalia.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:44 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:Anyone is better than Scalia.


Really? Rush Limbaugh or Donald Trump? How about Charles Manson?


Trump would be fantastic on the supreme court. I'd appoint him twice.
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Postby Valystria » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:45 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:
Really? Rush Limbaugh or Donald Trump? How about Charles Manson?


Trump would be fantastic on the supreme court. I'd appoint him twice.

I agree. Trump is what the Supreme Court needs.

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Postby Greater North American Union » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:49 pm

Espoalia wrote:The Role of the US Supreme Court

The Supreme Court plays a vital role within the United States' government. The Constitution grants the Court an expressed power which is known as a Judicial Review. Essentially, the US Supreme Court has the ability to "check" the actions of Congress and the President himself. Therefore, the Justices decide whether the law would be constitutional or unconstitutional. Do not forget that the other two branches can also "check" the Supreme Court. The President has the power to nominate the Justices, but the Senate must vote their approval of the nominees.


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By: Alex Seitz-Wald

"Obama for Supreme Court? Clinton is open to the idea..."

As the Iowa Caucus is rapidly approaching, a potential voter openly questioned Secretary Clinton during a town hall meeting. The voter asked if she, Hillary, would be willing to nominate soon to be former President Barack Obama to the US Supreme Court if she was elected as the next president. Clinton seem somewhat surprised by such a question, but she responded with, "That's a great idea." Hillary also stated, "I would certainly take that under advisement. I mean, he is brilliant and he can set forth an argument." Without the majority of the seats in the Senate being Democrat, it would be highly unlikely to get a majority vote for Obama to be approved even if she would happen to appoint him. Anyway, he seems to be uninterested in the notion of such a job right now. Obama later said, "I think that being a Justice is a little bit too monastic for me." In fact, the only other president to serve on the US Supreme Court was Taft. You decide! If you were the next elected president, would or would you not consider appointing Obama to the US Supreme Court.


A man who has as little understanding of (or care for) the US Constitution as Barack Obama should have nothing to do with the organ of government responsible for interpreting it. He's been a mediocre president (better than Bush, but a lobotomized opossum in a clown costume would have been better than Bush) and while I don't want to be lumped in with the type of halfwit who calls him "Obongo" or "King Obummer", I don't want him to have any more power either.

The fact that Hillary Clinton, the corporate shill to end all corporate shills, supports the idea just makes it a worse idea.
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Postby Kernen » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:50 pm

Absolutely not. For one, he's got no judicial experience. Being a lawyer is not nearly the same thing as being a judge. While Obama was a fantastic civil rights lawyer from Harvard Law, he never served as a judge.

For another, Supreme Court justices are supposed to be above and apart from the political process. Obama has managed to be in the center of politics for nearly a decade. Not only would he have to recuse himself for every case that involved his work, he'd be constantly questioned as to whether or not he is able to separate himself from the issues he's on record as.

Besides, I can't see Obama willing to play second fiddle to whoever the Chief Justice is.
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Postby The Union of the West » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:53 pm

I doubt he'll want to do that.
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Postby Valystria » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:54 pm

The Union of the West wrote:I doubt he'll want to do that.

Then it shouldn't matter what he wants. Not wanting to be on the Supreme Court makes him all the more suited for it.

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Postby Nariterrr » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:54 pm

Valystria wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:I doubt he'll want to do that.

Then it shouldn't matter what he wants. Not wanting to be on the Supreme Court makes him all the more suited for it.

How so?
Honestly who knows what about anything anymore.

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:54 pm

He doesn't want it, so no. He's certainly qualified, though.
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Postby Valystria » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:55 pm

Nariterrr wrote:
Valystria wrote:Then it shouldn't matter what he wants. Not wanting to be on the Supreme Court makes him all the more suited for it.

How so?

Because it means he isn't a power-hungry opportunist.

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Postby Kernen » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:56 pm

Wallenburg wrote:He doesn't want it, so no. He's certainly qualified, though.

He's really not, though.
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Postby The Union of the West » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:57 pm

Valystria wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:I doubt he'll want to do that.

Then it shouldn't matter what he wants. Not wanting to be on the Supreme Court makes him all the more suited for it.

It most definitely matters what he wants. Regadless of his qualifications, if he doesn't want the position, he won't take it.
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Postby Nariterrr » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:06 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Valystria wrote:Then it shouldn't matter what he wants. Not wanting to be on the Supreme Court makes him all the more suited for it.

It most definitely matters what he wants. Regadless of his qualifications, if he doesn't want the position, he won't take it.

Why wouldn't he. He has nothing to lose if he does.
Honestly who knows what about anything anymore.

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:09 pm

Good lord NO. He would just shirk his duties and end up on a golf course somewhere and without his teleprompter he wouldn't be able to function.

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:11 pm

Kernen wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:He doesn't want it, so no. He's certainly qualified, though.

He's really not, though.

He was a professor of constitutional law and the leader of the free world. That isn't exactly a paltry record.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:15 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:Good lord NO. He would just shirk his duties and end up on a golf course somewhere and without his teleprompter he wouldn't be able to function.


You are right. We should put the shrub. He would invent new legal terms.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:15 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Kernen wrote:He's really not, though.

He was a professor of constitutional law and the leader of the free world. That isn't exactly a paltry record.

He was? Where?

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Postby Nariterrr » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:16 pm

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Wallenburg wrote:He was a professor of constitutional law and the leader of the free world. That isn't exactly a paltry record.

He was? Where?

University of Chicago.
Honestly who knows what about anything anymore.

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:16 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Good lord NO. He would just shirk his duties and end up on a golf course somewhere and without his teleprompter he wouldn't be able to function.


You are right. We should put the shrub. He would invent new legal terms.

Good lord NO.

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:17 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Good lord NO. He would just shirk his duties and end up on a golf course somewhere and without his teleprompter he wouldn't be able to function.


You are right. We should put the shrub. He would invent new legal terms.

And nobody would misunderestimate them.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:17 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:He was a professor of constitutional law and the leader of the free world. That isn't exactly a paltry record.

He was? Where?


University of Chicago Law.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/obama- ... professor/
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:17 pm

Nariterrr wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:He was? Where?

University of Chicago.


Hmmm. Obama did NOT "hold the title" of a University of Chicago law school professor.

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Postby Carronia » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:18 pm

Kernen wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:He doesn't want it, so no. He's certainly qualified, though.

He's really not, though.



Technically he is - read this quote from the Supreme Court's website:


The Constitution does not specify qualifications for Justices such as age, education, profession, or native-born citizenship. A Justice does not have to be a lawyer or a law school graduate, but all Justices have been trained in the law. Many of the 18th and 19th century Justices studied law under a mentor because there were few law schools in the country.

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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:19 pm

Yes and a federal prison afterwards.

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