Obama for Supreme Court?

[Kernen]

He wouldn't be reliably impartial on important issues as a justice, and is entirely too politicized a figure to be an impartial judge at the federal level. There are many more moderate liberal candidates available to choose from.

Why do you believe he wouldn't be reliably impartial on important issues?

@Second part: I'm sure. That's a fair assesment.

Because he's become a political locus for power who is on record on a number of controversial issues. That's the antithesis of impartiality. With the recent popularity of lobbyists in SCOTUS determinations, he'd be a very popular target for influence. Concerns that would all be mitigated by choosing nearly anybody else.

[Farnhamia]

He wouldn't be reliably impartial on important issues as a justice, and is entirely too politicized a figure to be an impartial judge at the federal level. There are many more moderate liberal candidates available to choose from.

Why do you believe he wouldn't be reliably impartial on important issues?

@Second part: I'm sure. That's a fair assesment.

He could run for Congress. John Quincy Adams did.

Yes, he could pull a poor old JQA. But at the same time, imagine this:

>By some miracle he is named Speaker.
>Crackpot theories ensue. Eebul gubment Obammer wunts to rool 3rd term.

He could be Speaker but the 22nd Amendment, the one term-limiting the President and Vice-President, disqualifies him from being President a third time. There is language in the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 that says that if the Speaker is unable to take the office or is not qualified, the President Pro Tempore of the Senate becomes President.

[Nariterrr]

Why do you believe he wouldn't be reliably impartial on important issues?

@Second part: I'm sure. That's a fair assesment.


Yes, he could pull a poor old JQA. But at the same time, imagine this:

>By some miracle he is named Speaker.
>Crackpot theories ensue. Eebul gubment Obammer wunts to rool 3rd term.

He could be Speaker but the 22nd Amendment, the one term-limiting the President and Vice-President, disqualifies him from being President a third time. There is language in the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 that says that if the Speaker is unable to take the office or is not qualified, the President Pro Tempore of the Senate becomes President.

The President of the Senate is the Vice-President, isn't he?

[Aidannadia]

Because he's become a political locus for power who is on record on a number of controversial issues. That's the antithesis of impartiality. With the recent popularity of lobbyists in SCOTUS determinations, he'd be a very popular target for influence. Concerns that would all be mitigated by choosing nearly anybody else.

Have many SCOTUS members not had a record on a number of controversial issues? To my understanding, the SCOTUS appointed judges are picked because the president agrees with them and they have proven themselves in a court of law, and the administration believes they an get through.

The President of the Senate is the Vice-President, isn't he?

President of Senate=/= President Pro Temp of Senate, but yes you're right.

[Tolko Temnota]

He could be Speaker but the 22nd Amendment, the one term-limiting the President and Vice-President, disqualifies him from being President a third time. There is language in the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 that says that if the Speaker is unable to take the office or is not qualified, the President Pro Tempore of the Senate becomes President.

The President of the Senate is the Vice-President, isn't he?

Yes.

[Farnhamia]

He could be Speaker but the 22nd Amendment, the one term-limiting the President and Vice-President, disqualifies him from being President a third time. There is language in the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 that says that if the Speaker is unable to take the office or is not qualified, the President Pro Tempore of the Senate becomes President.

The President of the Senate is the Vice-President, isn't he?

Correct. So if the President leaves office through disability or death, the VP succeeds. If there is no VP, the Speaker. If there is no Speaker or the Speaker is disqualified, the President Pro Tempore of the Senate becomes President. The President Pro Tem of the Senate presides when the VP is unavailable. Irving Wallace wrote a novel on this premise back in 1964, The Man, in which the President Pro Tem is ... a black man.

[Kernen]

Because he's become a political locus for power who is on record on a number of controversial issues. That's the antithesis of impartiality. With the recent popularity of lobbyists in SCOTUS determinations, he'd be a very popular target for influence. Concerns that would all be mitigated by choosing nearly anybody else.

Have many SCOTUS members not had a record on a number of controversial issues? To my understanding, the SCOTUS appointed judges are picked because the president agrees with them and they have proven themselves in a court of law, and the administration believes they an get through.

Having a particular leaning and having campaigned and politicked on these issues as the President of the United States is wont to do are two completely different levels of bias. Everybody has some bias one direction or another. Serving as the leader of the Democratic party is a matter of an entirely different order.

[Nariterrr]

The President of the Senate is the Vice-President, isn't he?

Correct. So if the President leaves office through disability or death, the VP succeeds. If there is no VP, the Speaker. If there is no Speaker or the Speaker is disqualified, the President Pro Tempore of the Senate becomes President. The President Pro Tem of the Senate presides when the VP is unavailable. Irving Wallace wrote a novel on this premise back in 1964, The Man, in which the President Pro Tem is ... a black man.

Ok, thanks for clearing that up Farn.

[Des-Bal]

Justice Kagan never served as a judge yet she's on the Supreme Court

I didn't put her there.

[Farnhamia]

Justice Kagan never served as a judge yet she's on the Supreme Court

I didn't put her there.

*consults CCTV recordings* Nope, it wasn't you.

[Kernen]

Justice Kagan never served as a judge yet she's on the Supreme Court

I didn't put her there.

Elena Kagen? Who had years of experience as a federal prosecutor, working intimately within the federal justice department and who served as the Dean of Harvard Law? Obama doesn't have nearly the background that Kagen has when looking at experience with federal judicial process. He is a politician, which is a fundamentally different job than a federal prosecutor, and which requires very different skills than a judge requires.

This despite the many other strikes against him for judgeship.

[Des-Bal]

I didn't put her there.

Elena Kagen? Who had years of experience as a federal prosecutor, working intimately within the federal justice department and who served as the Dean of Harvard Law? Obama doesn't have nearly the background that Kagen has when looking at experience with federal judicial process. He is a politician, which is a fundamentally different job than a federal prosecutor, and which requires very different skills than a judge requires.

This despite the many other strikes against him for judgeship.

Oh really? In that case I still didn't put her there. I don't think we should have justices who have not served as appellate judges.

[Delator]

He could run for Congress. John Quincy Adams did.

Yes, he could pull a poor old JQA. But at the same time, imagine this:

>By some miracle he is named Speaker.
>Crackpot theories ensue. Eebul gubment Obammer wunts to rool 3rd term.

I don't think he'd ever be made Speaker/President Pro Temp

But Majority/Minority leader?? Quite possibly.

[USS Monitor]

Awful idea. The man is a second-rate lawyer with no respect for the rule of law or the restraints of the Constitution. Any vote he made would be under some agenda, an extremely stretched interpretation of the 14th amendment, or an outright denial of the Second and 10th.

Reading the 14th amendment and taking it literally is "extremely stretched"?

[Kernen]

Oh really? In that case I still didn't put her there. I don't think we should have justices who have not served as appellate judges.

Working as a federal prosecutor at least gives you the information to operate within the woth the federal system. Whatever experience Obama got on this front was in the guise of commanding it, not working with it as a member.

But I posted my comment again so you'd see the claim had already been addressed and you could have some ammo, so to speak.

[Sun Lands]

Only if Donald Trump is allowed to join the court if he becomes president.

[Aksun]

He can replace Scalia

[Ifreann]

SCOTUS isn't a trial court.

Sure it is, assuming that in the time since I last checked Barrack Obama has become a state being sued by another state or a representative of a foreign government.

Does being king of Kenya count?

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Awful idea. The man is a second-rate lawyer with no respect for the rule of law or the restraints of the Constitution. Any vote he made would be under some agenda, an extremely stretched interpretation of the 14th amendment, or an outright denial of the Second and 10th.

Reading the 14th amendment and taking it literally is "extremely stretched"?

Everyone knows that it's only the first 10 that really count.

[Khadgar]

Sure it is, assuming that in the time since I last checked Barrack Obama has become a state being sued by another state or a representative of a foreign government.

Does being king of Kenya count?

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Reading the 14th amendment and taking it literally is "extremely stretched"?

Everyone knows that it's only the first 10 that really count.

Only the second one counts.

[The Archregimancy]

I'll admit that this idea intrigued me.

However, it's a moot point; the President's staff have now made it clear that he isn't interested:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... ppointment

[Farnhamia]

I'll admit that this idea intrigued me.

However, it's a moot point; the President's staff have now made it clear that he isn't interested:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... ppointment

As if that ever mattered.