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Would or would you not consider appointing Obama to the US Supreme Court.

I would consider appointing Obama to the US Supreme Court.
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I would absolutely not consider appointing Obama to the US Supreme Court.
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:29 am

Delator wrote:I have honestly been giving a lot of thought lately to what Obama might do post-presidency.

I do not think he would receive a nomination to the Supreme Court, even from a Democratic president, as it would be a poor precedent to set. Even if he did, I do not think he would accept the nomination, as I do not think Obama would want to serve in that position, even if his nomination was assured of passage.

I think it's possible he could return to Congress, as we've had two presidents do so before...I do not doubt for a second that Obama would win in any race in the state of Illinois in which he chooses to run.

Obama's former Senate seat is occupied by Mark Kirk, but Kirk is running for reelection this year, and it would be unseemly for a departing President to run against him. Obama won't run against Minority Whip Dick Durbin in 2020, so it would be 2022 before Obama could run for Senate in Illinois.

He could, however, aim for the House in 2018. Robert Dold's 10th District would swing a seat to the Democrats, but were he to run for the House I suspect Obama would try to angle for one of the already Democratic seats in the urban Chicago area rather than it's northern suburbs.

My honest opinion though is that Obama is burned out by National level politics after 8 years in the Executive branch. I think Obama will run against Bruce Rauner in 2018 and become Governor of Illinois. Rauner has already cast himself in the mold of the New Wave Republican Governor (blame unions for everything while locking in tax cuts for the wealthy, meanwhile swinging the budget ax at every government program that actually helps people)...I suspect Obama would win in a landslide.


He'd probably be a good governor for Illinois if he did that. He's not stupid, so I am sure he can find something useful to do with his life after he leaves the White House.
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Postby Eol Sha » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:22 am

Kernen wrote:For another, Supreme Court justices are supposed to be above and apart from the political process. Obama has managed to be in the center of politics for nearly a decade. Not only would he have to recuse himself for every case that involved his work, he'd be constantly questioned as to whether or not he is able to separate himself from the issues he's on record as.

Why? Taft was appointed to SCOTUS after being President. It's not exactly unprecedented.
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Postby New Socialist South Africa » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:08 am

I'd consider it, but not for long. Obama doesn't really seem to ant the post, would be an increadibly partisan appointment and there are surely far more qualified people for the post. Obama in the Supreme Court just doesn't feel like a comfortable fit.
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Postby Amuaplye » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:14 am

Poshuana wrote:
Ethopolis wrote:I'm no Democrat, but I think President Obama is a very intelligent and capable man. We'd be remiss to not consider him when an opening arises on the Supreme Court bench.

To get more crap like homosexual marriage passed? What's next? Furry marriage? Child marriage? Object marriage? Waifu marriage?

Slippery slope fallacy. Besides, lots of people did marry the ones you said that were next. There was a lady who married the Eiffel Tower.
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Postby Zoice » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:35 am

Poshuana wrote:
Ethopolis wrote:I'm no Democrat, but I think President Obama is a very intelligent and capable man. We'd be remiss to not consider him when an opening arises on the Supreme Court bench.

To get more crap like homosexual marriage passed? What's next? Furry marriage? Child marriage? Object marriage? Waifu marriage?

There's a simple test to whether or not someone should be able to marry someone els: are they both consenting.

Furries are just people with a fetish. They're allowed to be married.

If you meant bestiality, animals cannot consent, and they aren't people anyways. Gay people are still people.

Child marriage involves a child, and children cannot consent. So no child marriage.

Object marriage... objects aren't people.

And waifus, I don't know what that is.
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Postby Kernen » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:46 am

Eol Sha wrote:
Kernen wrote:For another, Supreme Court justices are supposed to be above and apart from the political process. Obama has managed to be in the center of politics for nearly a decade. Not only would he have to recuse himself for every case that involved his work, he'd be constantly questioned as to whether or not he is able to separate himself from the issues he's on record as.

Why? Taft was appointed to SCOTUS after being President. It's not exactly unprecedented.

Taft had served as a Federal judge before becoming President. He had judicial experience,which Obama does not, to offset his political leanings.

Moreover, as Taft was, essentially, a lacky of Roosevelt's, placed in office with the intention of being Teddy's proxy for another two terms, it can be argued that he was not nearly so polarizing a figure as Obama. That, however, is subjective.
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:52 am

Zoice wrote:
Poshuana wrote:To get more crap like homosexual marriage passed? What's next? Furry marriage? Child marriage? Object marriage? Waifu marriage?

There's a simple test to whether or not someone should be able to marry someone els: are they both consenting.

Furries are just people with a fetish. They're allowed to be married.

If you meant bestiality, animals cannot consent, and they aren't people anyways. Gay people are still people.

Child marriage involves a child, and children cannot consent. So no child marriage.

Object marriage... objects aren't people.

And waifus, I don't know what that is.


I am an inanimate object, and I can consent to stuff.

I did not consent to be disassembled and hauled back to the surface in pieces, though. Salvagers are very disrespectful. >:(
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Postby Eol Sha » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:54 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Zoice wrote:There's a simple test to whether or not someone should be able to marry someone els: are they both consenting.

Furries are just people with a fetish. They're allowed to be married.

If you meant bestiality, animals cannot consent, and they aren't people anyways. Gay people are still people.

Child marriage involves a child, and children cannot consent. So no child marriage.

Object marriage... objects aren't people.

And waifus, I don't know what that is.


I am an inanimate object, and I can consent to stuff.

I did not consent to be disassembled and hauled back to the surface in pieces, though. Salvagers are very disrespectful. >:(

You should press for a lawsuit. Civil if not criminal. I imagine that having your body torn apart is illegal six ways to Tuesday.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:16 am

Galloism wrote:
Poshuana wrote:To get more crap like homosexual marriage passed? What's next? Furry marriage? Child marriage? Object marriage? Waifu marriage?

I think furries can already get married.

And doesn't 'waifu' just mean wife? wouldn't it be redundant to marry your wife?

It might be redundant for you to marry your wife. I don't think it'd be redundant for me to marry her. :P

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Postby Eol Sha » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:26 am

Galloism wrote:
Poshuana wrote:To get more crap like homosexual marriage passed? What's next? Furry marriage? Child marriage? Object marriage? Waifu marriage?

I think furries can already get married.

And doesn't 'waifu' just mean wife? wouldn't it be redundant to marry your wife?

Waifu is more of a term that refers to the traits a person sees in a fictional character (generally from anime) that are ideal for marriage.
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Postby Keynsinia » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:36 am

Awful idea. The man is a second-rate lawyer with no respect for the rule of law or the restraints of the Constitution. Any vote he made would be under some agenda, an extremely stretched interpretation of the 14th amendment, or an outright denial of the Second and 10th.
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Postby Herskerstad » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:25 am

Perhaps we should give him another nobel price as he would surely infuse the rest of the world with much more hope this time.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:27 am

Herskerstad wrote:Perhaps we should give him another nobel price as he would surely infuse the rest of the world with much more hope this time.

Maybe chemistry this time.

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Postby The Greater Finnic Union » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:29 am

I support this move, not because I think he would do a good job but because I want to see Rush implode.

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Postby Jazz Commies and Sexy Astrophysicists » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:29 am

I wouldn't if I were him. I'd settle into building my own library and doing some charity crap with Jimmy Carter. But hey, if he wants to, why not?
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Postby Eol Sha » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:37 am

Jazz Commies and Sexy Astrophysicists wrote:I wouldn't if I were him. I'd settle into building my own library and doing some charity crap with Jimmy Carter. But hey, if he wants to, why not?

Not that I particularly disagree, but helping to rid the world of a deadly disease is a bit more than "charity crap" in my opinion.
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Postby Insaeldor » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:46 am

Opposed. I believe there are far more qualified people out there. Not to mention I think it would hurt the courts legitimacy to have a political figure on it, it would be seen as impartial and more as a political force rather than a legal one. I don't dislike mr. Obama but as a potential candidate I'd say there are better candidates.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:03 am

Poshuana wrote:Another libtard in the Supreme Court? No

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Postby Jazz Commies and Sexy Astrophysicists » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:27 am

Eol Sha wrote:
Jazz Commies and Sexy Astrophysicists wrote:I wouldn't if I were him. I'd settle into building my own library and doing some charity crap with Jimmy Carter. But hey, if he wants to, why not?

Not that I particularly disagree, but helping to rid the world of a deadly disease is a bit more than "charity crap" in my opinion.


You're right, I apologize. That was a rather crass way to describe what he's done over the years.
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Postby Destiny Island » Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:17 am

It'd be a bit silly, I'm not certain that Congress would even approve him, but there's absolutely nothing stopping him from becoming one.
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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:15 am

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Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:Yes and a federal prison afterwards.


I am going to regret this.........why?

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:17 am

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
I am going to regret this.........why?

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Postby Herskerstad » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:41 am

Ifreann wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:Perhaps we should give him another nobel price as he would surely infuse the rest of the world with much more hope this time.

Maybe chemistry this time.


The only way that would happen would be if Jagland was still on the committee and attributed it to whatever Obama stirs up in him.
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Postby Nariterrr » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:44 am

Keynsinia wrote:Awful idea. The man is a second-rate lawyer with no respect for the rule of law or the restraints of the Constitution. Any vote he made would be under some agenda, an extremely stretched interpretation of the 14th amendment, or an outright denial of the Second and 10th.

So, because he wants to stop gun violence by add more gun control, he is against the second amendment? Gun rights are important, but they are not as important as the right to life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:53 am

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:Is that even legal?

Once he leaves office, yeah. They could appoint Halle Barry if they wanted.


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