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Postby Louis20 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:00 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Louis20 wrote:He is but what other choice there is besides people More liberal tolerant than him :( ?

Erm, I don't mean to be rude, but I can't understand what you're saying. Can you rephrase your question?

I Mean if putin was overthrown Russia would then have a more liberal tolerant pro usa/eu leader So the Russian Right Wing would Hate that even More :(

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Postby Greater North American Union » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:00 pm

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Sure, why not. I'm sure Putin would do a better job than the cucks running yurope right now.

Though it would be best if America just took over the whole West tbh fam.

He's just as pro Islam, "diversity" and all that as the "cucks" running Europe.


Interesting. I'd like to see the source for this.
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Postby Constantinopolis » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:02 pm

Of course not.

Belarus should rule Europe. *nod*
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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:03 pm

Greater North American Union wrote:
Jochistan wrote:He's just as pro Islam, "diversity" and all that as the "cucks" running Europe.


Interesting. I'd like to see the source for this.

Eol Sha wrote:Russia is a multiethnic and multinational country. Their diversity is enshrined in their constitution for God's sake.

Also, beef up your OP with an actual argument.
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Postby Louis20 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:03 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:Of course not.

Belarus should rule Europe. *nod*

belarus is a vassel of Russia :)

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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:03 pm

No. Britain should. :P

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Postby Constantinopolis » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:05 pm

Louis20 wrote:I Mean if putin was overthrown Russia would then have a more liberal tolerant pro usa/eu leader

Hahahahahaha...

No.

Every single significant political force that opposes Putin in Russia is more hardline and more anti-Western than him. If Putin was overthrown, Russia would be ruled either by communists or by hardline nationalists.

Liberals exist, but they are a tiny political minority that no one takes seriously.
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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:05 pm

Louis20 wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Erm, I don't mean to be rude, but I can't understand what you're saying. Can you rephrase your question?

I Mean if putin was overthrown Russia would then have a more liberal tolerant pro usa/eu leader So the Russian Right Wing would Hate that even More :(

Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not claiming to be an expert on Russian politics (I barely know the main political parties), but I'm skeptical that Russians would elect a more liberal leader.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:05 pm

Napkiraly wrote:No. Britain should. :P


Constantinopolis wrote:Of course not.

Belarus should rule Europe. *nod*

All of you are wrong.

Liechtenstein should rule europe!

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Postby Louis20 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:06 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:
Louis20 wrote:I Mean if putin was overthrown Russia would then have a more liberal tolerant pro usa/eu leader

Hahahahahaha...

No.

Every single significant political force that opposes Putin in Russia is more hardline and more anti-Western than him. If Putin was overthrown, Russia would be ruled either by communists or by hardline nationalists.

i doubt that i Fear it would be another maidan cia coup american puppet :( Hopefully you are right :)

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Postby Jochistan » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:07 pm

Greater North American Union wrote:
Jochistan wrote:He's just as pro Islam, "diversity" and all that as the "cucks" running Europe.


Interesting. I'd like to see the source for this.

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origina ... world.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/24/world ... .html?_r=0
https://www.opendemocracy.net/od-russia ... ulturalism
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russi ... QI20120123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33oIF-ggK5U (he seems pretty vocal about it in this video)
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Postby Louis20 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:08 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Louis20 wrote:I Mean if putin was overthrown Russia would then have a more liberal tolerant pro usa/eu leader So the Russian Right Wing would Hate that even More :(

Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not claiming to be an expert on Russian politics (I barely know the main political parties), but I'm skeptical that Russians would elect a more liberal leader.

I Fear that if putin is overthrown it would be like what happened in the ukraine in 2014 and the installation of a american puppet so Russia would become under the usa control like how the ukraine is now Maybe i wrong i Hope so :)

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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:10 pm

Louis20 wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not claiming to be an expert on Russian politics (I barely know the main political parties), but I'm skeptical that Russians would elect a more liberal leader.

I Fear that if putin is overthrown it would be like what happened in the ukraine in 2014 and the installation of a american puppet so Russia would become under the usa control like how the ukraine is now Maybe i wrong i Hope so :)

If there is any one thing that will never happen it is Russia being under the political sway of the United States or any other country.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:10 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:Hahahahahaha...

No.

Every single significant political force that opposes Putin in Russia is more hardline and more anti-Western than him. If Putin was overthrown, Russia would be ruled either by communists or by hardline nationalists.

Liberals exist, but they are a tiny political minority that no one takes seriously.

That assumes UR is not just the 'loyalty party' and is an actual ideological force.

From what I've heard and seen, it's not.

Besides, I remember Medvedev, He was certainly more liberal and tolerant than Putin.
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Postby Louis20 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:11 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Louis20 wrote:I Fear that if putin is overthrown it would be like what happened in the ukraine in 2014 and the installation of a american puppet so Russia would become under the usa control like how the ukraine is now Maybe i wrong i Hope so :)

If there is any one thing that will never happen it is Russia being under the political sway of the United States or any other country.

Um look at the yeltsin years :(

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Postby Saiwania » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:11 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:Liberals exist, but they are a tiny political minority that no one takes seriously.


Now if only the rest of Europe were like that... In all seriousness, if Europe is to move towards the right, it needs more leaders like Putin, before people who are more hardline can come in. It is better suited to be a gradual rather than a rapid process.
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Postby The balkens » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:12 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:Hahahahahaha...

No.

Every single significant political force that opposes Putin in Russia is more hardline and more anti-Western than him. If Putin was overthrown, Russia would be ruled either by communists or by hardline nationalists.

Liberals exist, but they are a tiny political minority that no one takes seriously.

That assumes UR is not just the 'loyalty party' and is an actual ideological force.

From what I've heard and seen, it's not.

Besides, I remember Medvedev, He was certainly more liberal and tolerant than Putin.

too bad hes been relegated into putins other leadrship position.

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Postby Louis20 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:12 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:Liberals exist, but they are a tiny political minority that no one takes seriously.


Now if only the rest of Europe were like that... In all seriousness, if Europe is to move towards the right, it needs more leaders like Putin, before people who are more hardline can come in. It is better suited to be a gradual rather than a rapid process.

I Agree with you i Hope so

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Postby Jochistan » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:16 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:Liberals exist, but they are a tiny political minority that no one takes seriously.


Now if only the rest of Europe were like that... In all seriousness, if Europe is to move towards the right, it needs more leaders like Putin, before people who are more hardline can come in. It is better suited to be a gradual rather than a rapid process.

You mean a Multiculturalist?
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Sveltlana wrote:this thread is cancer itself

Pretty much.
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So? If you Russians try to invade my country or any other NATO country like you abused Ukraine, I can guarantee you we will come after you. A war between Russia and all NATO countries combined: Who do you think will win? NOT your "Mother Russia"!

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