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The Transbrandenbourgish Colony
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Postby The Transbrandenbourgish Colony » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:52 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:Liberals exist, but they are a tiny political minority that no one takes seriously.


Now if only the rest of Europe were like that... In all seriousness, if Europe is to move towards the right, it needs more leaders like Putin, before people who are more hardline can come in. It is better suited to be a gradual rather than a rapid process.

I don't see how you would not classify Putin as being hardline right-wing??? I don't think that bashing/killing gays and opposition journalists and invading small innocent neighbouring countries is "moderate right-wing" or a "gradual process" towards the right. That man is rapidly bringing his country and Europe more and more back to medieval times...
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Louis20
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Postby Louis20 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:52 pm

Jochistan wrote:
Louis20 wrote:Yes but many Real Russians are part north asian descent but have Russian Faith and culture and this is good all Russian Asians should become Russified then there will be no ethnic conflicts with islam there :)

There are barely any conflicts with the russian Islamic population save a very small minority (about a thousand or so) of Chechens.

Yes because they Russified and most asian muslims are Really athiest because of the commie anti religion crimes and Many Asian Russians are Orthodox Fully Russified which is great I Am ok with Native to Russia Asian muslims if they Loyal to Russia not criminals

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Skyviolia
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Postby Skyviolia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:52 pm

White European States wrote:Simple.

The French and the Germen government is weak. They like refugees!

Russia not!

If Russia Conquers Europe, Mother Europe will be the greatest superpower in the Earth for forever!

Motives:

Russia is stronk
They are immune to Terrorists (Terrorits fear them)
Them can be grand allies of USA
No Corruption

No Corruption. Ummm. No, Russia should not rule Europe.
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Postby Reagan-land » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:52 pm

I suppose the legendary Stalin Steel will make a return?

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Postby Jochistan » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:52 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:Turkey is a better candidate to rule Europe. Turkey can occupy Russia in 7 days.

If all the Ural Altaic peoples united they might have a chance with support even with the sorry economic state of them at the moment.
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:53 pm

Putin managed to mismanage Russia pretty well, but the question is, can he mismanage Europe. Sure, he started with an impoverished hellhole that came after the fall of the USSR, but can he mismanage relatively prosperous nations so that they may reach Russia's level of incompetent governance and economic deprivation.

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Postby New confederate ramenia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:53 pm

The Transbrandenbourgish Colony wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Now if only the rest of Europe were like that... In all seriousness, if Europe is to move towards the right, it needs more leaders like Putin, before people who are more hardline can come in. It is better suited to be a gradual rather than a rapid process.

I don't see how you would not classify Putin as being hardline right-wing??? I don't think that bashing/killing gays and opposition journalists and invading small innocent neighbouring countries is "moderate right-wing" or a "gradual process" towards the right. That man is effectively bringing Europe more and more back to medieval times...

Putin doesn't do any of those things.
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Postby Jochistan » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:53 pm

But alas, No nationalist wants to unite anymore.
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Postby Louis20 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:54 pm

Jochistan wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:Turkey is a better candidate to rule Europe. Turkey can occupy Russia in 7 days.

If all the Ural Altaic peoples united they might have a chance with support even with the sorry economic state of them at the moment.

That will not happen because Most original turks/mongols would support Russia and Russia would use nukes then against turkey/nato i think

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Postby Diopolis » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:54 pm

No. If anything, Europe needs less geographic unity.
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The Transbrandenbourgish Colony
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Postby The Transbrandenbourgish Colony » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:57 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:
The Transbrandenbourgish Colony wrote:I don't see how you would not classify Putin as being hardline right-wing??? I don't think that bashing/killing gays and opposition journalists and invading small innocent neighbouring countries is "moderate right-wing" or a "gradual process" towards the right. That man is effectively bringing Europe more and more back to medieval times...

Putin doesn't do any of those things.

And who told you that? The totally "independent" Russian state tv that you've been brainwashed by, with commentators threatening to blow America and Europe up with nuclear weapons?

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Postby Saanland » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:59 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Saanland wrote:Russia has tons of imported cheap tajik/kyrgyz/uzbek workers.
And multiculturalism =/= immigration.


This is fine, because all of these groups used to be apart of the Soviet Union which Russia was apart of.

In mainland Europe's case, many EU nations are ruling more in favor of their immigrants coming in than their own citizens by covering up migrant crime, prosecuting said migrants less harshly, censoring political discourse about what is going on as "hate speech", etc. Any opposition is just dismissed as neo-Nazism/fascism. Well, people will get sick of allowing the flood of people to continue indefinitely- I guarantee it!


Yet it's not ok when Algerians move to France when they were both part of the French Empire? Also it's "a part of."
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:00 pm

Diopolis wrote:No. If anything, Europe needs less geographic unity.


Balkanize Europe, what a brilliant idea. Should we include Russia in there as well, it is far too big.

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Postby Saanland » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:00 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:
The Transbrandenbourgish Colony wrote:I don't see how you would not classify Putin as being hardline right-wing??? I don't think that bashing/killing gays and opposition journalists and invading small innocent neighbouring countries is "moderate right-wing" or a "gradual process" towards the right. That man is effectively bringing Europe more and more back to medieval times...

Putin doesn't do any of those things.

It's likely that his government kills journalists, and he has invaded his neighbors on dubious grounds several times before.
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Postby New confederate ramenia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:01 pm

Jochistan wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:Turkey is a better candidate to rule Europe. Turkey can occupy Russia in 7 days.

If all the Ural Altaic peoples united they might have a chance with support even with the sorry economic state of them at the moment.

Image
Instant superpower
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Saanland
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Postby Saanland » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:02 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:
Jochistan wrote:If all the Ural Altaic peoples united they might have a chance with support even with the sorry economic state of them at the moment.

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Instant superpower

Sounds like Pan-Turanism.
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Postby Kanaria » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:03 pm

Nope.

Federal Republic of Kanaria-
57 federal entities, 863.2 million people, $40.67 trillion GDP, Gini coefficient 0.38. North Pacific, 1,500 miles west of San Fransisco.

Federal Republic of Kanaria- 57 federal entities, $154 trillion GDP, Gini coefficient 0.39. Northern Ruson, Arctic/Anican/Pacific Ocean, 69 lightyears from San Fransisco, Chi Eridani system.
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And silly rabbit, Kanaria's a caliphate.

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Postby Diopolis » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:03 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Diopolis wrote:No. If anything, Europe needs less geographic unity.


Balkanize Europe, what a brilliant idea. Should we include Russia in there as well, it is far too big.

Much of Russia needs to be broken down, yes.
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Postby Versail » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:04 pm

If the people of Europe wish to be ruled by the Russian Federation let them.
If not, then no.
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New confederate ramenia
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Postby New confederate ramenia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:05 pm

The Transbrandenbourgish Colony wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:Putin doesn't do any of those things.

And who told you that? The totally "independent" Russian state tv that you've been brainwashed by, with commentators threatening to blow America and Europe up with nuclear weapons?

Of course, I'm an American brainwashed by Russian propaganda.
Saanland wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:Putin doesn't do any of those things.

It's likely that his government kills journalists, and he has invaded his neighbors on dubious grounds several times before.

It may be possible that his government kills opposition, and it is quite worrying. The only invasion I can think of is the crimean annexation and aiding members of the Donbass war, which aren't really invasions.
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Postby Diopolis » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:05 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:
Jochistan wrote:If all the Ural Altaic peoples united they might have a chance with support even with the sorry economic state of them at the moment.

Image
Instant superpower

Too bad the Ural-Altaic language family is pseudoscience.
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