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Postby Jochistan » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:46 pm

The Holy Shifty Empire wrote:Subhuman culture.

I was banned for saying something like that once, so I'm not sure we're allowed to call things Subhuman. But I see where you're coming from.

If anything doesn't belong in modern times it's cultures like this that allow things like this to happen.
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Postby DBJ » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:50 pm

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Agreed.

Disagreed.
SADLY it's human. Way too much human. Way too much widespread among muslims.

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Postby Diopolis » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:51 pm

"There is no consistently agreed upon definition of a child"
Even if there are multiple definitions, I would hope that none of them defines an eight year old as not a child.
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Postby Mefpan » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:52 pm

I'm not sure what's more abhorrent on every level: The fact that this is apparently legal over there or that people apparently think it normal to the extent that they go ahead with...

Yeah. I'm going to need an extra large jumbo vomit bucket for this thread.
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Postby Second Blazing » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:53 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
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Again, let's use the language of the article being discussed.

"existing issue of forced child marriages in the Middle East."

Sure, the word "child" can be a subjective one. But not an 8-year old. That's a child in anyone's definition. I hope.

So, "child marriages in the Middle East". Are you saying the entire Middle Eastern culture is "subhuman" because of the occasional child marriage?

It's not like in literally every Middle Eastern nation you have every child married to a 50-year old man. Such instances occur, yes, and it's revolting, but you can't call an entire culture "subhuman" for that.


You consider 100 million child brides occasional?
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Postby Diopolis » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:55 pm

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The Wolven League wrote:So, "child marriages in the Middle East". Are you saying the entire Middle Eastern culture is "subhuman" because of the occasional child marriage?

It's not like in literally every Middle Eastern nation you have every child married to a 50-year old man. Such instances occur, yes, and it's revolting, but you can't call an entire culture "subhuman" for that.


You consider 100 million child brides occasional?

It's probable a significant portion of them occur outside the middle east.
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Postby Second Blazing » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:57 pm

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You consider 100 million child brides occasional?

It's probable a significant portion of them occur outside the middle east.


A quarter of young girls in Yemen are married before 15. This is still more than occasionally.
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Postby Tafhan » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:57 pm

DBJ wrote:
Risottia wrote:Disagreed.
SADLY it's human. Way too much human. Way too much widespread among muslims.

It's high time to whack some sense into the heads of A LOT of muslims.

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Oh, sadly many Hindus have this Idea too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_India

And Mexico, Bangkok and Brazil are the child sex trafficking hotspots of the world.
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I wish it was just confined to Muslims. That would make it considerably easier.

This is a disgusting, downright savage practice. and I hope the barbarians that think it's okay need to be brought to cold, hard justice.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:10 pm

Urran wrote:http://www.albawaba.com/editorchoice/yemen-child-marriage-human-rights-519066#.VptsKDMY0po.facebook

An eight year-old child bride died in Yemen on her wedding night after suffering internal injuries due to sexual trauma. Human rights organizations are calling for the arrest of her husband, who was five times her age.

Al Nahar, Lebanon, reported that the death occurred in the tribal area of Hardh in northwestern Yemen, which borders Saudi Arabia. This brings even more attention to the already existing issue of forced child marriages in the Middle East.

"According to the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA), between 2011 and 2020, more than 140 million girls will become child brides. Furthermore, of the 140 million girls who will marry before the age of 18, 50 million will be under the age of 15."

It is reported that over a quarter of Yemen's young girls are married before the age of 15. Not only do they lose access to health and education, these child brides are commonly subjected to physical, emotional and sexual violence in their forced marriages.

One of the main issues is that there is currently no consistent established definition of a "child" that has been agreed upon worldwide. This leaves various interpretations within countries and little protection for those who are affected.

Establishing this age limit is among the top priorities of groups like HRC which was responsible for publishing the 54-page report “How Come You Allow Little Girls to Get Married?”, documenting the lifelong damage to girls who are forced to marry at young ages. Most pro age-limit organizations agree that 18 should be the legal age for marriage.

In February 2009, a law was created in Yemen that set the minimum age for marriage at 17. Unfortunately, it was repealed after more conservative lawmakers called it un-Islamic.


Personally, I find this disgusting. I'm involved with an organization fighting child prostitution in Cambodia, but child MARRIAGE? This is beyond foul. The UN should make an international standard for being legally an adult IMO. What says NSG?


It doesn't help that Yemeni society actively promotes and approves of child marriages, although certain approaches have been made by law enforcement to stop the practice.
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Postby Skyviolia » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:11 pm

I feel so bad. I hope they punish the fuckers who did this.
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Postby Othelos » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:26 pm

Urran wrote:
In February 2009, a law was created in Yemen that set the minimum age for marriage at 17. Unfortunately, it was repealed after more conservative lawmakers called it un-Islamic.

It's nice to know that pedophilia is an important part of Islam.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:37 pm

Othelos wrote:
Urran wrote:
In February 2009, a law was created in Yemen that set the minimum age for marriage at 17. Unfortunately, it was repealed after more conservative lawmakers called it un-Islamic.

It's nice to know that pedophilia is an important part of Islam.


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Tbh, not every Muslim believes in child marriage or practices it or is ok with it. This tends to be a big issue in more rural areas of places like Yemen and Afghanistan. Also, let us be fair, Islam is hardly the only religion that has adherents that justify child marriage. Hinduism does it too. And lets not kid ourselves either, at certain points in history, Christianity also tacitly approved of it, particularly among royals.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:41 pm

Way to go Yemen....ugh you know what? I can't even be sarcastic about this. This is so fucked up, it really just irks me so much.

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Postby Vorond » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:50 pm

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Postby Jarvinen » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:57 pm

Jochistan wrote:
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Yemeni culture is barbaric, since shit like this is condoned there, and even encouraged.

Pretty much.


Thank you. It's not a bigoted stance, it's the only pragmatic one. Just as 11th century Europe was barbaric, so is a place like Yemen.

That said, there are thousands of Yemenis who have lost their lives going against the fundamentalist government, and I salute them.


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Postby Urran » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:08 pm

I guess that I am most upset because she was only 8. 16 or 17 is okay depending on cultural context, my grandmother got married at 16 and she's from the US, but 8. She shouldn't be dead. She shouldn't be married. She should be hopping off of a school bus or walking home from school saying, "Mommy! Daddy! Guess what I learned in school!?" not having her internal organs rearranged to the point of death by a man 5X her age.
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Postby New confederate ramenia » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:09 pm

Well that's awful.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:10 pm

Urran wrote:I guess that I am most upset because she was only 8. 16 or 17 is okay depending on cultural context, my grandmother got married at 16 and she's from the US, but 8. She shouldn't be dead. She shouldn't be married. She should be hopping off of a school bus or walking home from school saying, "Mommy! Daddy! Guess what I learned in school!?" not having her internal organs rearranged to the point of death by a man 5X her age.


8 and younger. I've read accounts of girls as young as 5 being married in Yemen and India.
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Postby Risottia » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:11 pm

DBJ wrote:
Risottia wrote:Disagreed.
SADLY it's human. Way too much human. Way too much widespread among muslims.

It's high time to whack some sense into the heads of A LOT of muslims.

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Postby The Sykren » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:13 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Urran wrote:I guess that I am most upset because she was only 8. 16 or 17 is okay depending on cultural context, my grandmother got married at 16 and she's from the US, but 8. She shouldn't be dead. She shouldn't be married. She should be hopping off of a school bus or walking home from school saying, "Mommy! Daddy! Guess what I learned in school!?" not having her internal organs rearranged to the point of death by a man 5X her age.


8 and younger. I've read accounts of girls as young as 5 being married in Yemen and India.

That's beyond fucked up. That's really and truly disgusting.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:15 pm

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8 and younger. I've read accounts of girls as young as 5 being married in Yemen and India.

That's beyond fucked up. That's really and truly disgusting.


I don't disagree. Sadly, there is a socioeconomic and religious issue in this. Unacceptable and horrible, but for many in rural areas of Yemen and India, marrying off a girl means a mouth less to feed.
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Postby Ghuraba Al-Khorusani » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:15 pm

This particular province has old ties to Houthis.
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Postby Risottia » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:21 pm

Ghuraba Al-Khorusani wrote:This particular province has old ties to Houthis.

Actually, looking at the map below, looks like the Harad (or Hardh) area is under Sunni control.
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Postby Ghuraba Al-Khorusani » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:24 pm

Risottia wrote:
Ghuraba Al-Khorusani wrote:This particular province has old ties to Houthis.

Actually, looking at the map below, looks like the Harad (or Hardh) area is under Sunni control.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:25 pm

Ghuraba Al-Khorusani wrote:This particular province has old ties to Houthis.


This Yemeni practice has been going on for quite some time. Is being under Sunni or Shia control relevant?
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