Iceland welcomes first Syrian refugees

[Saiwania]

So you're advocating terrorism.

No, it is more of an observation that Islam hasn't been very peaceful with regards to outside cultures and for the most part, the Islamic world isn't facing any blowback despite having made many enemies precisely by following the negative passages of the Qur'an and being hell bent on conquering Dar al-harb. As just one example, the treatment of Kafir as subhumans is bound to get Islamists push back from the groups they target.

[Jochistan]

So you're advocating terrorism.

No, it is more of an observation that Islam hasn't been very peaceful with regards to outside cultures and for the most part, the Islamic world isn't facing any blowback despite having made many enemies precisely by following the negative passages of the Qur'an and being hell bent on conquering Dar al-harb. As just one example, the treatment of Kafir as subhumans is bound to get Islamists push back from the groups they target.

Islam in all it's traditions, orientations, sects, subsects, movements, schools of thought, leanings and strains isn't unanimously murderous against non muslims and out to get you.

[North Calaveras]

No, it is more of an observation that Islam hasn't been very peaceful with regards to outside cultures and for the most part, the Islamic world isn't facing any blowback despite having made many enemies precisely by following the negative passages of the Qur'an and being hell bent on conquering Dar al-harb. As just one example, the treatment of Kafir as subhumans is bound to get Islamists push back from the groups they target.

Islam in all it's traditions, orientations, sects, subsects, movements, schools of thought, leanings and strains isn't unanimously murderous against non muslims and out to get you.

your right it's no unanimously but it's majority anti-western in it's principles.

[Jochistan]

your right it's no unanimously but it's majority anti-western in it's principles.

In all of it's traditions, orientations, sects, subsects, movements, schools of thought, leanings and strains?

Noice.

[Saiwania]

You don't know fucking shit about Islamic doctrine outside of cherrypicked verses displayed on islamwatch.com or some shit, or public statements by some Wahhabi in East End.

Cherry picked or not, the negative verses still exist and what matters is that a substantial number of Muslims (1 million+ at an extremely conservative estimate) are using it to condone terrorism to spread Islam or to disadvantage non-Muslims in some way, shape, or form. Like it or not, the Islamic world has a huge problem with Muslim militants pursuing external Jihad that simply doesn't have an equal parallel to either Christianity or Judaism.

At least Jewish militants are mostly defensive, they primarily limit themselves to reprisal attacks against Palestinian terrorism in Israel, rather than attacking non-Jewish countries for not being Jewish.

[Jochistan]

You don't know fucking shit about Islamic doctrine outside of cherrypicked verses displayed on islamwatch.com or some shit, or public statements by some Wahhabi in East End.

Cherry picked or not, the negative verses still exist and what matters is that a substantial number of Muslims (1 million+ at an extremely conservative estimate) are using it to condone terrorism to spread Islam or to disadvantage non-Muslims in some way, shape, or form. Like it or not, the Islamic world has a huge problem with Muslim militants pursuing external Jihad that simply doesn't have an equal parallel to either Christianity or Judaism.

Yes, and they need to be dealt with. Focus on them and "nonviolent fundamentalists"

[North Calaveras]

your right it's no unanimously but it's majority anti-western in it's principles.

In all of it's traditions, orientations, sects, subsects, movements, schools of thought, leanings and strains?

Noice.

no, but OVERALL it is definatley anti-western.

Let's go over this, the OVERALL CULTURE

General treating of women like shit?: Yup, well known and documented
General harsh treatment of homosexuals?: Yup more than a few getting killed or treated horribly.
Non-Muslims?: Yup, sure don't have much of that left, it's no wonder christianity has been mostly pushed out of the region.(course we can all cry blah blah crusades blah blah)
Freedom of speech/press/assembly?: Notorious for violating this
Democracy/Republicans: Notorious for not having these and when they are given or even EARNED they are squandered by Islamic dogma.

This is the culture these people grow up in and the culture they know.

[Hjallaland]

In all of it's traditions, orientations, sects, subsects, movements, schools of thought, leanings and strains?

Noice.

no, but OVERALL it is definatley anti-western.

Let's go over this, the OVERALL CULTURE

General treating of women like shit?: Yup, well known and documented
General harsh treatment of homosexuals?: Yup more than a few getting killed or treated horribly.
Non-Muslims?: Yup, sure don't have much of that left, it's no wonder christianity has been mostly pushed out of the region.(course we can all cry blah blah crusades blah blah)
Freedom of speech/press/assembly?: Notorious for violating this
Democracy/Republicans: Notorious for not having these and when they are given or even EARNED they are squandered by Islamic dogma.

This is the culture these people grow up in and the culture they know.

Lets look at the OVERALL CULTURE of Christian/Westen people then shall we?

General peadophilia amongst priests?: Yup, well known and documented.
General harsh treatment of homesxuals?: Yup more than a few getting beaten up or treated horribly.
Muslim?: Yup, being treated as outcasts and terrorists.
Hate speech/discrimination/racism?: Widely allowed and/or tolerated.
Imperialistic tendencies?: Notorious for interfering in other countries affairs and (trying to) overthrowing democracies.

That a few are being pieces of shit doesn't mean they all are.

[Tafhan]

In all of it's traditions, orientations, sects, subsects, movements, schools of thought, leanings and strains?

Noice.

no, but OVERALL it is definatley anti-western.

Let's go over this, the OVERALL CULTURE

General treating of women like shit?: Yup, well known and documented
General harsh treatment of homosexuals?: Yup more than a few getting killed or treated horribly.
Non-Muslims?: Yup, sure don't have much of that left, it's no wonder christianity has been mostly pushed out of the region.(course we can all cry blah blah crusades blah blah)
Freedom of speech/press/assembly?: Notorious for violating this
Democracy/Republicans: Notorious for not having these and when they are given or even EARNED they are squandered by Islamic dogma.

This is the culture these people grow up in and the culture they know.

The Third world in general has a problem with the first two, and freedom of speech/press/assembly and actual democracy (which is more or less west exclusive) as for harsh treatment of non Muslims, that's definitely true in The middle east and Pakistan (and even so, the majority of the population isn't in on it). But Pakistan and the entirety of the middle east combined accounts for less than a fourth of Muslims.

[North Calaveras]

no, but OVERALL it is definatley anti-western.

Let's go over this, the OVERALL CULTURE

General treating of women like shit?: Yup, well known and documented
General harsh treatment of homosexuals?: Yup more than a few getting killed or treated horribly.
Non-Muslims?: Yup, sure don't have much of that left, it's no wonder christianity has been mostly pushed out of the region.(course we can all cry blah blah crusades blah blah)
Freedom of speech/press/assembly?: Notorious for violating this
Democracy/Republicans: Notorious for not having these and when they are given or even EARNED they are squandered by Islamic dogma.

This is the culture these people grow up in and the culture they know.

Lets look at the OVERALL CULTURE of Christian/Westen people then shall we?

General peadophilia amongst priests?: Yup, well known and documented.
General harsh treatment of homesxuals?: Yup more than a few getting beaten up or treated horribly.
Muslim?: Yup, being treated as outcasts and terrorists.
Hate speech/discrimination/racism?: Widely allowed and/or tolerated.
Imperialistic tendencies?: Notorious for interfering in other countries affairs and (trying to) overthrowing democracies.

That a few are being pieces of shit doesn't mean they all are.

1. among priests sure, but this isn't a normal thing in european culture though and is HARSHLY dealt with if exposed in any shape or form so nope, let's move on to the next one.
2. Yes, some gay people are beaten and even murdered but it's not cultural acceptable nor is it legaly acceptable in almost all cases and the law usually protect LGBT for the most part, wrong again it appears.
3. This one you may have some sway because of things like the war on terror that breed a negative stereotype, however, given the current situation this is becoming more legit.
4. Allowed as a personal freedom and not allowed to be used in a manner that endagers others, the law also PROTECTS PEOPLE in this case.
5. Okay yes the euro powers have done a lot of this, that dosn't excuse the others behavior, besides, for being so bad they all sure as fuck want to come to places like Germany

[Roski]

That's not what he said. Your bigoted behavior sets an image of The West which is in line with ISIS' West vs Muslims dichotomy.

No their culture creats a west vs islam issue, they are not compatable. This isnt bigotry is common fucking sense.

I'm going to teach you an idea called "assimilation"

Now - generally, when cultures come into the United States, they generally assimilate into the majority culture. Very few actually legitimately keep their original culture. This is true for most western nations - even, most nations.

Now, if it wasn't for cultural diversity - we wouldn't have Pizza. We wouldn't have all this other shit that was invented because cultures crossed.

Sharia Law is not compatible with the constitution - but most of the fuckers who are running away from Syria are running away from ISIS who is Sharia Law Supreme Overfuckingload

10 seconds into a geopolitical look at the situation in Syria shows exactly how fucking ignorant you are on the circumstance in Syria

[Grenartia]

3. Name a major Christian terrorist group carrying out attacks in the Middle East. Name one. Just one. I know you can't. That's where your statement becomes irrelevant.

No, it is exactly my point. If Muslim countries got even half of a taste of their own medicine, perhaps the Islamic world would be substantially less enthusiastic about the concept of Jihad in general.

1. Again, good job ignoring everything else I said.

2. THEY ALREADY FUCKING ARE! Most victims of jihad are themselves Muslims.

[The Rich Port]

Iceland are good people.

I wonder if there's as much conflict there between locals and refugees as in Europe.

[Jochistan]

Iceland are good people.

I wonder if there's as much conflict there between locals and refugees as in Europe.

Probably, because apparently no one thought of scanning for Wahhabis and shit.

Because apparently to Europeans, there are two alternatives: Deny the problem and remind passive and accepting to the new wave of peaceful fun loving migrants or wreck some shit because DIS IZ A WAR ON IZLAM LOL!

[The Rich Port]

Iceland are good people.

I wonder if there's as much conflict there between locals and refugees as in Europe.

Probably, because apparently no one thought of scanning for Wahhabis and shit.

Because apparently to Europeans, there are two alternatives: Deny the problem and remind passive and accepting to the new wave of peaceful fun loving migrants or wreck some shit because DIS IZ A WAR ON IZLAM LOL!

... You don't know for a fact?

[Jochistan]

Probably, because apparently no one thought of scanning for Wahhabis and shit.

Because apparently to Europeans, there are two alternatives: Deny the problem and remind passive and accepting to the new wave of peaceful fun loving migrants or wreck some shit because DIS IZ A WAR ON IZLAM LOL!

... You don't know for a fact?

More of an educated guess, really.

[The Rich Port]

... You don't know for a fact?

More of an educated guess, really.

Uh huh.

[The Republic of American Freedom]

I thought Iceland would be spared. I guess I was wrong.

[The Rich Port]

I thought Iceland would be spared. I guess I was wrong.

The Icelanders are the type to support Merkel in her initiative.

They're no friends to right-wingers, especially after the Banking de-regulation scandal.

[The Republic of American Freedom]

I thought Iceland would be spared. I guess I was wrong.

The Icelanders are the type to support Merkel in her initiative.

They're no friends to right-wingers, especially after the Banking de-regulation scandal.

Yeah, but they're so far away from Europe.

[The Alexanderians]

3. Name a major Christian terrorist group carrying out attacks in the Middle East. Name one. Just one. I know you can't. That's where your statement becomes irrelevant.

No, it is exactly my point. If Muslim countries got even half of a taste of their own medicine, perhaps the Islamic world would be substantially less enthusiastic about the concept of Jihad in general.

That would have the reverse effect and ramp up the fanaticism.

[Evanescens]

You guys see it all wrong, as if your adversary is a competing philosophy that you are trying to out-argue in a contest of ideas. To understand them, you need to understand biology, not philosophy. They are not running from anything -- war is not just a part of their life, it is written into their life reference manual. They are expanding their habitat, which is also written in their manual, and they are not making any semblance of secret out of it. Europe for them is the land of milk and cookies, temporarily and unfortunately occupied by a weak species that has to be driven out, bred out or eaten. Take this viewpoint for a thought experiment, and their actions will make perfect sense.

I am sure there will be a bunch of infantile objections to the above, so let me kindly hit you on the head with the reference manual -- that has always been a good idea, pity it went out of fashion. Ignorance is no longer bliss, kids. It is your bane.

Q 8:65
O Prophet, urge the believers to battle. If there are among you twenty [who are] steadfast, they will overcome two hundred. And if there are among you one hundred [who are] steadfast, they will overcome a thousand of those who have disbelieved because they are a people who do not understand.

So, there you have the high morale and a direct order in a nice, short and clear instruction.

Q 2:191
And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

Yes, that word 'kill' and 'expel' means exactly what it says. When the opportunity presents itself, it is not just OK, it is a direct order. So if they are let in, they cannot be asked to leave -- now it is their land and they must kill any competition.

Q 48:20
Allah has promised you much booty that you will take [in the future] and has hastened for you this [victory] and withheld the hands of people from you - that it may be a sign for the believers and [that] He may guide you to a straight path.

Much booty, get it? My condolences to the female disbelievers -- that includes your booties too. Germany has already discovered that little detail recently.

Q 9:123
O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness. And know that Allah is with the righteous.

Yes, harshness. That is not a synonym of tolerance and peacefullness, in case there is any doubt. Kids, this goes on and on and on -- if you do not like it, you can try to argue with them -- that may even win you a Darwinian prize in record time. But hey, let's not single out the followers of this particular cult, as they are a large but not the only component of the flood. Others do not have a reference manual at all -- they just do the nature thing, the African way. So here is a viral video for you, all documentary, and get the trusty puke bucket ready, as it is not a fiction or fantasy -- it is in the news.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11 ... ss-europe/

No, it is exactly my point. If Muslim countries got even half of a taste of their own medicine, perhaps the Islamic world would be substantially less enthusiastic about the concept of Jihad in general.

That would have the reverse effect and ramp up the fanaticism.

[Dahon]

Look, I'll be the first to say that the Q'uran and the accompanying hadith do have a lot of things to say that do not jive with today's more tolerant, more egalitarian mindset. But guess what? Only ever a small portion of Islamic adherents have actually kept those words to heart and massacred scores of innocents out of a difference in ideologies -- most people in Islam or in any other religion have been and are content to live out their lives in this world, defying the more extreme dictates of their creed, whether or not they realize it.

[Imperializt Russia]

So you're advocating terrorism.

No, it is more of an observation that Islam hasn't been very peaceful with regards to outside cultures and for the most part, the Islamic world isn't facing any blowback despite having made many enemies precisely by following the negative passages of the Qur'an and being hell bent on conquering Dar al-harb. As just one example, the treatment of Kafir as subhumans is bound to get Islamists push back from the groups they target.

Christianity has a pretty shitty track record on that.

[Pulau Singapura]

And if we're talking Qu'ran quotes, then look at the one on my sig. It clearly says that besides Allah and Mohammed, we should also follow the rules of those in authority.(AKA the State, the laws of wherever we are)