Why aren't you a Pan-Leftist?

[The New Dawn Commune]

I appropriated the last phrase from revleft. I should've given the group credit, but the idea of Pan-Leftism .... no.

You could still give credit if you want. The OP has an edit button like all your posts.

Fair enough. I'll take care of that!

Edit: taken care of

[The Qeiiam Star Cluster]

Well for one I don't know what a pan-leftist is.

A Pan-Leftist is someone who believes that anti-capitalists, including Anarchists, Marxists, and so on, should coordinate and cooperate for the furtherance of revolutionary struggle rather than bicker between themselves in theoretical debate.

Working together with Stalinists and Maoists?

No.

[Auroya]

1) I think the idea of marxist revolution is bullshit. I'm not that kind of leftist.
2) A lot of the left-wing is downright insane.

[Pandeeria]

And before someone is confused, let me state it clearly:

Stones, glass houses, etc.

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[Genivaria]

Well for one I don't seek the destruction of the capitalist system, merely its reform.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

I'm more of a Pot-Leftist myself.

[The Qeiiam Star Cluster]

I'm more of a Pot-Leftist myself.

Wok-Leftism or gtfo!

[The New Dawn Commune]

Well for one I don't seek the destruction of the capitalist system, merely its reform.

Why do you think Capitalism can be reformed?

[The New Dawn Commune]

A Pan-Leftist is someone who believes that anti-capitalists, including Anarchists, Marxists, and so on, should coordinate and cooperate for the furtherance of revolutionary struggle rather than bicker between themselves in theoretical debate.

Working together with Stalinists and Maoists?

No.

Why not? We share the concern for the immediate emancipation of the working class with them.

[Auroya]

Working together with Stalinists and Maoists?

No.

Why not? We share the concern for the immediate emancipation of the working class with them.

They're authoritarians and we can clearly see what the practical applications of their ideologies have caused in the past.

[Haritopia]

For all those leftists out there who are not Pan-Leftist, why are you not? It seems to me that much of the reason for the theoretical and practical stagnation of the past is that we, as leftists and anti-capitalists, are stuck in anti-revisionist sentiments (I, as a Marxist-Leninist, am speaking to largely to my own here). Should we not, as critics of capitalism, seek to emulate the system in terms of its dynamism and flexibility in developing new critiques and cooperating theoretically and practically with one another? Marx said for the workers of the world to unite. Shouldn't that apply to us as well?

Edit: credit goes to revleft for the final phrase of the OP

Last time I checked it wasn't just leftists who were anti-capitalist...

[Novus America]

Working together with Stalinists and Maoists?

No.

Why not? We share the concern for the immediate emancipation of the working class with them.

Because they are liable to fucking quite literally kill you?

[The New Dawn Commune]

Why not? We share the concern for the immediate emancipation of the working class with them.

Because they are liable to fucking quite literally kill you?

I think that's being a tad bit unfair towards both theoretical positions.

[Novus America]

Well for one I don't seek the destruction of the capitalist system, merely its reform.

Why do you think Capitalism can be reformed?

Why not? Reformed capitalism has worked quite well in places like the Nordics and Switzerland. Capitalism has created the best living standards the world has ever seen. Brought the world into its most prosperous age. Sure it has problems, but the problems can be reduced if not entirely eliminated and the benefits outweigh the harms.

[Genivaria]

Well for one I don't seek the destruction of the capitalist system, merely its reform.

Why do you think Capitalism can be reformed?

Because Social Democratic nations effectively have.
Why do you think it can't?

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

Because they are liable to fucking quite literally kill you?

I think that's being a tad bit unfair towards both theoretical positions.

Ironic, considering that they put an ice axe through Trotsky's head for (among other things) advocating the very point you espouse in this thread.

[Novus America]

Because they are liable to fucking quite literally kill you?

I think that's being a tad bit unfair towards both theoretical positions.

No, that is how Stalinists and Maoists often roll. Have you learned nothing from history?

Not all polar bears will kill you. But enough will that you stay the fuck away from them.

[Haritopia]

Why do you think Capitalism can be reformed?

Because Social Democratic nations effectively have.
Why do you think it can't?

Social Democratic nations? You mean welfare states like Sweden?

[Genivaria]

Because Social Democratic nations effectively have.
Why do you think it can't?

Social Democratic nations? You mean welfare states like Sweden?

Social Democratic was the phrase I mean't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

[The Nihilistic view]

Well for one I don't know what a pan-leftist is.

A Pan-Leftist is someone who believes that anti-capitalists, including Anarchists, Marxists, and so on, should coordinate and cooperate for the furtherance of revolutionary struggle rather than bicker between themselves in theoretical debate.

Isn't that just simply don't be cunts?

[Blorbs]

Because I have a personal view of 'leftism' that is much different than other types.

[Haritopia]

Social Democratic nations? You mean welfare states like Sweden?

Social Democratic was the phrase I mean't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

I just simply can't think of a social democratic nation currently existing. Care to name a few examples?

[Unnamed island state]

Social Democratic was the phrase I mean't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

I just simply can't think of a social democratic nation currently existing. Care to name a few examples?

Norway.

[Genivaria]

Social Democratic was the phrase I mean't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

I just simply can't think of a social democratic nation currently existing. Care to name a few examples?

All of the Nordic countries, Canada, France, Germany, the UK.
Just off the top of my head.

[Unnamed island state]

I just simply can't think of a social democratic nation currently existing. Care to name a few examples?

All of the Nordic countries, Canada, France, Germany, the UK.
Just off the top of my head.

Canada, France, Germany, and the UK aren't social democratic.