NATION

PASSWORD

Why aren't you a Pan-Leftist?

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
New confederate ramenia
Minister
 
Posts: 2987
Founded: Oct 07, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby New confederate ramenia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:01 pm

New Reagan-land wrote:When are we going to admit that communism is just every liberals wet dream that's never going to come true?

Anyways, enlighten yourselves: http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=rea ... FORM=VIRE1


this our countries top rated Saturday morning cartoon :rofl:

Because it isn't. I'm considered a liberal by political tests, but I'm not communist.
probando

User avatar
Calimera II
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8790
Founded: Jan 03, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Calimera II » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:02 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:
New Reagan-land wrote:When are we going to admit that communism is just every liberals wet dream that's never going to come true?

Anyways, enlighten yourselves: http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=rea ... FORM=VIRE1


this our countries top rated Saturday morning cartoon :rofl:

Because it isn't. I'm considered a liberal by political tests, but I'm not communist.


Of course you are. You are a crypto-communist, because Reagan-land says so!

User avatar
New Reagan-land
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 60
Founded: Jan 04, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby New Reagan-land » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:02 pm

Novus America wrote:
Conscentia wrote:Communism is a diverse movement. Not all communists are Marxist-Leninists or Maoists. In-fact, Marxist-Leninist and Maoist regimes targeted those other communists are dissenters as much as they did any non-communist dissenter.


Yup. Hence why this pan leftism is suicidal stupidity.


I have seen so many obscure political identities on this site its incredible. Like I'm not even mad, its downright impressive

User avatar
Calimera II
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8790
Founded: Jan 03, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Calimera II » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:03 pm

New Reagan-land wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Yup. Hence why this pan leftism is suicidal stupidity.


I have seen so many obscure political identities on this site its incredible. Like I'm not even mad, its downright impressive

Indeed. Reaganism is one of the most obscure I have encountered. What about you?

User avatar
Threlizdun
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15623
Founded: Jun 14, 2009
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Threlizdun » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:03 pm

The fact that Leninists have repeatedly killed libertarian socialists whenever they promised this hasn't really helped.
Communalist, Social Ecologist, Bioregionalist,
Sex-Positive Feminist, Queer, Trans-woman, Polyamorous

This site stresses me out, so I rarely come on here anymore. I'll try to be civil and respectful towards those I'm debating on here. If you don't extend the same courtesy then I'll probably just ignore you.

If we've been friendly in the past and you want to keep in touch, shoot me a telegram

User avatar
Big Jim P
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 55158
Founded: Antiquity
Ex-Nation

Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:03 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:
New Reagan-land wrote:When are we going to admit that communism is just every liberals wet dream that's never going to come true?

Anyways, enlighten yourselves: http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=rea ... FORM=VIRE1


this our countries top rated Saturday morning cartoon :rofl:

Because it isn't. I'm considered a liberal by political tests, but I'm not communist.


A liberal is just a commie with commitment issues. :p
Hail Satan!
Happily married to Roan Cara, The first RL NS marriage, and Pope Joan is my Father-in-law.
I edit my posts to fix typos.

User avatar
New Reagan-land
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 60
Founded: Jan 04, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby New Reagan-land » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:04 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:
New Reagan-land wrote:When are we going to admit that communism is just every liberals wet dream that's never going to come true?

Anyways, enlighten yourselves: http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=rea ... FORM=VIRE1


this our countries top rated Saturday morning cartoon :rofl:

Because it isn't. I'm considered a liberal by political tests, but I'm not communist.


It was a joke

User avatar
Washington Resistance Army
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 53349
Founded: Aug 08, 2011
Father Knows Best State

Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:04 pm

Because I'm not a leftist.
Hellenic Polytheist, Socialist

User avatar
Calimera II
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8790
Founded: Jan 03, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Calimera II » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:05 pm

New Reagan-land wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:Because it isn't. I'm considered a liberal by political tests, but I'm not communist.


It was a joke

It's getting harder and harder to know whether you are being sarcastic or not.

User avatar
New Reagan-land
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 60
Founded: Jan 04, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby New Reagan-land » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:06 pm

Calimera II wrote:
New Reagan-land wrote:
I have seen so many obscure political identities on this site its incredible. Like I'm not even mad, its downright impressive

Indeed. Reaganism is one of the most obscure I have encountered. What about you?


I identify as a plain old conservative. Definitely a dying breed on this site... I think they all got banned to be honest. I mean ive been banned twice just for being a right-y

I named my country Reagan-land just because I like the guy a lot, I agree with his points of view... and he's hilarious. It would be a shame if he got alzehimers or something..

User avatar
New Reagan-land
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 60
Founded: Jan 04, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby New Reagan-land » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:07 pm

Calimera II wrote:
New Reagan-land wrote:
It was a joke

It's getting harder and harder to know whether you are being sarcastic or not.


I wasn't being sarcastic, not that time

User avatar
Calimera II
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8790
Founded: Jan 03, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Calimera II » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:07 pm

New Reagan-land wrote:
Calimera II wrote:Indeed. Reaganism is one of the most obscure I have encountered. What about you?


I identify as a plain old conservative. Definitely a dying breed on this site... I think they all got banned to be honest. I mean ive been banned twice just for being a right-y


Yea.. I think that's why you have been banned twice....

Socially, I am a moderate-conservative, and to be honest, we still don't have overlapping political ideas.
Last edited by Calimera II on Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Jochistan
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9390
Founded: Nov 02, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Jochistan » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:09 pm

Because I don't agree with the left.

And the leftists never seem to agree on anything. Which isn't bad. Neither do right wingers. I myself admittedly hate most far right ideologies more than I hate almost anything else I've ever encountered in this life. Using hate with full power of the raw, unadulterated fury the word has carried throughout the history of it's usage.


And I'm actually kind of surprised not too many Center left or center-of left liberals have the same thing towards the far-left. Not that I would share that sentiment. I have no real strong feelings towards Communists. Even though It would make sense if I did, considering how much I disagree with them.

But I'm just surprised no one in the left speaks out a lot towards the extreme views on their side of the spectrum.
Your friendly neighborhood Steppe Republic.
I was a wimp before Nationstates, now I'm a jerk and everybody loves me.

Pro: Moral Conservatism, Nationalism, Rationalism, Theocracy, Traditionalism, Golden Age of Islam, Corporal and Capital Punishment, Ethnic Mixing, Integration, Stranka Demokratske Akcije, Kosovo, Tibet, Ichkeria, el Sisi.
Anti: Salafism, Khomeinism, Racial Ultranationalism, Xenophobic Populism, Progressivism, Communism, Hedonism, Pacifism, Multiculturalism, Nihilism, Israel, Hamas, Serbia and friends, China.
Genghis did nothing wrong

User avatar
Lavochkin
Diplomat
 
Posts: 712
Founded: Nov 05, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Lavochkin » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:11 pm

New Reagan-land wrote:
Calimera II wrote:Indeed. Reaganism is one of the most obscure I have encountered. What about you?


I identify as a plain old conservative. Definitely a dying breed on this site... I think they all got banned to be honest. I mean ive been banned twice just for being a right-y

I named my country Reagan-land just because I like the guy a lot, I agree with his points of view... and he's hilarious. It would be a shame if he got alzehimers or something..

You can be a good guy, but a bad president (Ronald Reagan)
You can be a bad person, but a good president (Bill Clinton)
✫ The Federated States of Lavochkin ✫
✪ Федеративные Штаты Лавочкина ✪
⚜ De av forent stater av Lavochkin ⚜
Из пепла, к звездам
Из пепла, к звездам

Fra asken, til stjernene
Fra asken, til stjernene

Delegate for The Empire of Oppression (62nd largest region and growing!)

We pray for those who have lost a member or a loved one during the tragedies of 2016/2017

User avatar
New Reagan-land
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 60
Founded: Jan 04, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby New Reagan-land » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:12 pm

Calimera II wrote:
New Reagan-land wrote:
I identify as a plain old conservative. Definitely a dying breed on this site... I think they all got banned to be honest. I mean ive been banned twice just for being a right-y


Yea.. I think that's why you have been banned twice....

Socially, I am a moderate-conservative, and to be honest, we still don't have overlapping political ideas.


For me, it goes to show how immature liberals are when handed power. I'm a big freedom of speech fan so I would never ban someone just for being a communist or any of the various political identities I disagree with....

User avatar
Novus America
Post Czar
 
Posts: 38385
Founded: Jun 02, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Novus America » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:12 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
New Reagan-land wrote:
They were self proclaimed communist, that was the goal. The point is, they failed. If would would like to replace "communism" with "countries trying to be communist" or "countries trying to be socialist" or which ever, point, being, it failed horribly.


It's a little hard saying Communism has failed because it was attempted. many people like Mao were power hungry dip shits that hid under the guise of Communism to gain legitimacy and power.


The problem is humans are power hungry dip shits by nature. We are just a bunch of hyper predatory great apes. Sorry. Hence when all utopian movements fail in the end.
___|_|___ _|__*__|_

Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

User avatar
New confederate ramenia
Minister
 
Posts: 2987
Founded: Oct 07, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby New confederate ramenia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:12 pm

New Reagan-land wrote:
Calimera II wrote:Indeed. Reaganism is one of the most obscure I have encountered. What about you?


I identify as a plain old conservative. Definitely a dying breed on this site... I think they all got banned to be honest. I mean ive been banned twice just for being a right-y

I named my country Reagan-land just because I like the guy a lot, I agree with his points of view... and he's hilarious. It would be a shame if he got alzehimers or something..

You're not a conservative. You seem to want more freedom and less economic regulation than the status quo.
probando

User avatar
New Reagan-land
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 60
Founded: Jan 04, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby New Reagan-land » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:14 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:
New Reagan-land wrote:
I identify as a plain old conservative. Definitely a dying breed on this site... I think they all got banned to be honest. I mean ive been banned twice just for being a right-y

I named my country Reagan-land just because I like the guy a lot, I agree with his points of view... and he's hilarious. It would be a shame if he got alzehimers or something..

You're not a conservative. You seem to want more freedom and less economic regulation than the status quo.


Forgive me for asking this, but what country do you live in? I am in almost every way a conservative in America....

User avatar
New confederate ramenia
Minister
 
Posts: 2987
Founded: Oct 07, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby New confederate ramenia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:16 pm

New Reagan-land wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:You're not a conservative. You seem to want more freedom and less economic regulation than the status quo.


Forgive me for asking this, but what country do you live in? I am in almost every way a conservative in America....

I'm also American. Conservatism means wanting things to stay the same, and I don't think you want America to stay the same. You're a right-winger, but not conservative.
probando

User avatar
Lavochkin
Diplomat
 
Posts: 712
Founded: Nov 05, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Lavochkin » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:17 pm

New Reagan-land wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
Yea.. I think that's why you have been banned twice....

Socially, I am a moderate-conservative, and to be honest, we still don't have overlapping political ideas.


For me, it goes to show how immature liberals are when handed power. I'm a big freedom of speech fan so I would never ban someone just for being a communist or any of the various political identities I disagree with....

You realize almost every Conservative that was a president limited freedom-of-speech. Some limited a lot more than just freedom of speech.
✫ The Federated States of Lavochkin ✫
✪ Федеративные Штаты Лавочкина ✪
⚜ De av forent stater av Lavochkin ⚜
Из пепла, к звездам
Из пепла, к звездам

Fra asken, til stjernene
Fra asken, til stjernene

Delegate for The Empire of Oppression (62nd largest region and growing!)

We pray for those who have lost a member or a loved one during the tragedies of 2016/2017

User avatar
Lavochkin
Diplomat
 
Posts: 712
Founded: Nov 05, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Lavochkin » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:18 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:
New Reagan-land wrote:
Forgive me for asking this, but what country do you live in? I am in almost every way a conservative in America....

I'm also American. Conservatism means wanting things to stay the same, and I don't think you want America to stay the same. You're a right-winger, but not conservative.

That is by far, one of the most ironic comments ever posted. That's like saying you're left-winger, but not progressive.
✫ The Federated States of Lavochkin ✫
✪ Федеративные Штаты Лавочкина ✪
⚜ De av forent stater av Lavochkin ⚜
Из пепла, к звездам
Из пепла, к звездам

Fra asken, til stjernene
Fra asken, til stjernene

Delegate for The Empire of Oppression (62nd largest region and growing!)

We pray for those who have lost a member or a loved one during the tragedies of 2016/2017

User avatar
New Reagan-land
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 60
Founded: Jan 04, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby New Reagan-land » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:18 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:
New Reagan-land wrote:
Forgive me for asking this, but what country do you live in? I am in almost every way a conservative in America....

I'm also American. Conservatism means wanting things to stay the same, and I don't think you want America to stay the same. You're a right-winger, but not conservative.


Okay I suppose that's one way to look at it

edit: as for me wanting America to stay the same or change? I sure as hell don't want Obamas "Hope'n change" crap to stay.. so yeah I want it to change you could say
Last edited by New Reagan-land on Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Tevehas
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 381
Founded: May 05, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Tevehas » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:20 pm

Because I support the free market and the rights of the individual.
Nation States stats are unbiased and infallible. Fact-books are supplementary reading material and should be treated as such.
In Memoriam to all those who gave their lives at Cascade Falls, WA, Dec. 1989
WACO WAS JUST PRACTICE

User avatar
Ararat Mountain
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 458
Founded: Jun 04, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Ararat Mountain » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:24 pm

Benomia 3 wrote:
Ararat Mountain wrote:The point is, people hate communism in REAL life, it NEVER works. Deal with it. Look at China (Mao period, now they have private corporations and stuff), Cuba, and past shitty countries. Then you'll say, "muh embargo", "thats not muh real commie", "real commienism was never tried 0out" Oh it has, and it was terrible for the people, the nations around it, and the world.


Literally every political system and economic system that has ever been tried has been terrible for the people. There hasn't been a single polity with any actual significance in Human history that was problem-free.

And there never will be as long as human nature exists. And that wil and I don't think anyone wants that to go away. But socialism (god forbid communism) , is much worse compared to Capitalism, where people have rights, ideas, inventions, can actually make money.
Ասդված I Am An
Վէրէվի Armenian
Բոլորը American

Հայր մեր որ յերկինս ես, սուրբ եղիցի անուն Քո։ Եկեսցէ արքայութիւն Քո։ Եղիցին կամք Քո որպէս յերկինս և յերկրի։
Զհաց մեր հանապազորդ տուր մեզ այսօր։ և թող մեզ զպարտիս մեր, որպէս և մեք թողումք մերոց պարտապանաց։
և մի տանիր զմեզ ի փորձութիւն։ այլ փրկեա զմեզ ի չարէն։ զի Քո է արքայություն և զորություն և փառք յավիտյանս.

User avatar
Ararat Mountain
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 458
Founded: Jun 04, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Ararat Mountain » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:25 pm

Lavochkin wrote:
New Reagan-land wrote:
For me, it goes to show how immature liberals are when handed power. I'm a big freedom of speech fan so I would never ban someone just for being a communist or any of the various political identities I disagree with....

You realize almost every Conservative that was a president limited freedom-of-speech. Some limited a lot more than just freedom of speech.

Show examples.
Ասդված I Am An
Վէրէվի Armenian
Բոլորը American

Հայր մեր որ յերկինս ես, սուրբ եղիցի անուն Քո։ Եկեսցէ արքայութիւն Քո։ Եղիցին կամք Քո որպէս յերկինս և յերկրի։
Զհաց մեր հանապազորդ տուր մեզ այսօր։ և թող մեզ զպարտիս մեր, որպէս և մեք թողումք մերոց պարտապանաց։
և մի տանիր զմեզ ի փորձութիւն։ այլ փրկեա զմեզ ի չարէն։ զի Քո է արքայություն և զորություն և փառք յավիտյանս.

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Alcala-Cordel, Aldygast, Ankoz, Elejamie, Enormous Gentiles, Galloism, IdIoTs InC, Kenowa, Nantoraka, Oceasia, Port Caverton, Primitive Communism, Reloviskistan, Senscaria, Soviet Haaregrad, Stellar Colonies, Techocracy101010, The Pirateariat, The Sherpa Empire, Washington Resistance Army, Xmara, Z-Zone 3

Advertisement

Remove ads