Why aren't you a Pan-Leftist?

[The New Dawn Commune]

For all those leftists out there who are not Pan-Leftist, why are you not? It seems to me that much of the reason for the theoretical and practical stagnation of the past is that we, as leftists and anti-capitalists, are stuck in anti-revisionist sentiments (I, as a Marxist-Leninist, am speaking to largely to my own here). Should we not, as critics of capitalism, seek to emulate the system in terms of its dynamism and flexibility in developing new critiques and cooperating theoretically and practically with one another? Marx said for the workers of the world to unite. Shouldn't that apply to us as well?

Edit: credit goes to revleft for the final phrase of the OP

[Ifreann]

Well for one I don't know what a pan-leftist is.

[The New Dawn Commune]

Well for one I don't know what a pan-leftist is.

A Pan-Leftist is someone who believes that anti-capitalists, including Anarchists, Marxists, and so on, should coordinate and cooperate for the furtherance of revolutionary struggle rather than bicker between themselves in theoretical debate.

[Sanctissima]

Well for one I don't know what a pan-leftist is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_front

Basically, Commies.

[Chestaan]

Well for one I don't know what a pan-leftist is.

A Pan-Leftist is someone who believes that anti-capitalists, including Anarchists, Marxists, and so on, should coordinate and cooperate for the furtherance of revolutionary struggle rather than bicker between themselves in theoretical debate.

This generally happens but issues usually break out over tiny matters and ruin it.

[Val Halla]

Well for one I don't know what a pan-leftist is.

Leftist kitchenware salespeople

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

Cheering for unity is all well and good but until we can get together and decide what that unity means and what we're fighting for its a little pointless.

[Ifreann]

Well for one I don't know what a pan-leftist is.

A Pan-Leftist is someone who believes that anti-capitalists, including Anarchists, Marxists, and so on, should coordinate and cooperate for the furtherance of revolutionary struggle rather than bicker between themselves in theoretical debate.

Less bickering? Doesn't sound like my pan of fish.

[The New Dawn Commune]

A Pan-Leftist is someone who believes that anti-capitalists, including Anarchists, Marxists, and so on, should coordinate and cooperate for the furtherance of revolutionary struggle rather than bicker between themselves in theoretical debate.

This generally happens but issues usually break out over tiny matters and ruin it.

Unfortunately. That shouldn't deter us from continuing to work on building a united front.

[Transoxthraxia]

Why are you?

Seems a bit bloggy.

[Aramnia]

Well for one I don't know what a pan-leftist is.

I guess it would've been harder to type "pan-leftism" into Google than basically implying that you want someone to define it for you. Seriously, why do people on forums do this?

Anyway, I am a pan-leftist, so in response to you, New Dawn, your question doesn't apply to me

[The New Dawn Commune]

Cheering for unity is all well and good but until we can get together and decide what that unity means and what we're fighting for its a little pointless.

Well, we are all fighting for an anti-capitalist, socialist/communist future. That seems pretty straightforward.

[The New Dawn Commune]

Well for one I don't know what a pan-leftist is.

I guess it would've been harder to type "pan-leftism" into Google than basically implying that you want someone to define it for you. Seriously, why do people on forums do this?

Anyway, I am a pan-leftist, so in response to you, New Dawn, your question doesn't apply to me

Good work comrade lol

[Conserative Morality]

A Pan-Leftist is someone who believes that anti-capitalists, including Anarchists, Marxists, and so on, should coordinate and cooperate for the furtherance of revolutionary struggle rather than bicker between themselves in theoretical debate.

Goals are so radically different that such a broad coalition movement will inevitably fall apart in any long-term situation.

[Ifreann]

Well for one I don't know what a pan-leftist is.

I guess it would've been harder to type "pan-leftism" into Google than basically implying that you want someone to define it for you. Seriously, why do people on forums do this?

Because if someone's going to start a thread about pan-leftism then they should at least briefly explain what pan-leftism is. Whether I could google it myself is irrelevant. I shouldn't have to.

[Sanctissima]

Cheering for unity is all well and good but until we can get together and decide what that unity means and what we're fighting for its a little pointless.

Well, we are all fighting for an anti-capitalist, socialist/communist future. That seems pretty straightforward.

Yeah, no.

You have to go pretty far left before you get to the Socialist, let alone Communist crowd.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

Cheering for unity is all well and good but until we can get together and decide what that unity means and what we're fighting for its a little pointless.

Well, we are all fighting for an anti-capitalist, socialist/communist future. That seems pretty straightforward.

And how are we getting there? What does that future look like? Who should be in charge? Etc etc.

[Big Jim P]

Well for one I don't know what a pan-leftist is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_front

Basically, Commies.

Exactly why I am not one.

[Sanctissima]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_front

Basically, Commies.

Exactly why I am not one.

Heh, looks like we've found something we both agree on.

[The New Dawn Commune]

A Pan-Leftist is someone who believes that anti-capitalists, including Anarchists, Marxists, and so on, should coordinate and cooperate for the furtherance of revolutionary struggle rather than bicker between themselves in theoretical debate.

Goals are so radically different that such a broad coalition movement will inevitably fall apart in any long-term situation.

United fronts are not meant for long-term, protracted revolutionary struggle. They are meant to organize workers in such a way as to protect their immediate interests. How are the goals radically different by the way?

[Kubra]

sectarianism is part of the fun
dead serious

[Aramnia]

I guess it would've been harder to type "pan-leftism" into Google than basically implying that you want someone to define it for you. Seriously, why do people on forums do this?

Because if someone's going to start a thread about pan-leftism then they should at least briefly explain what pan-leftism is. Whether I could google it myself is irrelevant. I shouldn't have to.

Because it's much more efficient to sit and wait for a guy to type up a response rather than typing a term into a search engine? Really? He obviously thought people knew what it was, and if not, an explanation is literally some typing and a click away. It's not difficult. It just comes off to me as lazy. It'd be like me asking someone what "abstract object" means in a text-based conversation and wait on him/her to define it rather than just doing a quick search and getting an answer.

[Big Jim P]

Exactly why I am not one.

Heh, looks like we've found something we both agree on.

You gain wisdom, grasshopper.

[Kvatchdom]

Nobody in their right mind would want global stupidity to spread like this.

[The New Dawn Commune]

Well, we are all fighting for an anti-capitalist, socialist/communist future. That seems pretty straightforward.

Yeah, no.

You have to go pretty far left before you get to the Socialist, let alone Communist crowd.

Well, my definition goes to the left. I define right and left in terms of orientation to capital. Do you support capitalism at all? or do you not? Granted this is an oversimplification of my actual model but it works. I said:

A Pan-Leftist is someone who believes that anti-capitalists, including Anarchists, Marxists, and so on, should coordinate and cooperate for the furtherance of revolutionary struggle rather than bicker between themselves in theoretical debate.

We are already on the "far left" as you describe it.