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Ethel mermania
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:07 pm

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The Emerald Legion
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Father Knows Best State

Postby The Emerald Legion » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:18 pm

American Imperialism.

Actual Imperialism not this real politic stuff people think is imperialism.

Conquer places, kill the natives, take their stuff.
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Pulau Singapura
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Ex-Nation

Postby Pulau Singapura » Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:34 am

Singapore
Maybe I will make lots of radical changes, like invading other nations, and making them bow down to Singapore the greatest nation in the world.
First on my colonies list would be Malaysia, Philippines and Vietnam. Maybe parts of Indonesia.
No need to be a PR before citizenship. Stay for 6 months and get an instant citizenship.
I would allow dual citizenships.
Compete with US, China, and Russia as a superpower with lots of colonies.
Condemn the NATO as an "organisation of war"
Ally with Russia.
Help poor countries all over the world.
Be that one noisy kid during international meetings.

Philippines
More meh type of changes, really.
Esteblish a Parliamentary system.
Abolish the current parties.
Condemn NATO.
Abolish all US bases.
Return a portion of Spratlys to China.
Demolish all poor areas.
Establishing urban, high rise homes and relocation sites.
Giant electric fan that would repel typhoons.
Railway system connecting all islands.
Ally with Russia.
Change currency to Rubles.
Allow foreign companies to invest.
Aim for an Urban Garden type of country.(like a giant Singapore)
Be the one noisy kid during international meetings.
"Destroy the seed of evil, or it will grow up to your ruin."

♫ 15 years old ♫ Female ♫ Protestant(Soon to be Sunni Muslim) ♫ KPOP Roleplayer(Freelance) ♫ Proud Malay ♫
☮ I stand with Palestine ☮ I stand with Assad ☮ I stand with the Centre-Right ☮ I stand with Diversity ☮
4:59 O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you.
I wear teal, blue & pink for Swith.
My people, from Pattani in Thailand, Mindanao in Philippines, Malaysian/Indonesian Borneo and Ambon in East Indonesia, stop fighting and lets live in peace. Kita orang semua basudara/saudara mara.

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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:42 am

Declare myself God Emperor of Man and enforce my rule using a hidden army of genetically engineered super soldiers then set about a glorious crusade of the stars to destroy the Xenos threat.
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The Conez Imperium
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Conez Imperium » Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:53 am

So I become the King of England in the case for Australia? Great instead of becoming just the Prime Minister I'm not sovereign ruler of Britannia!

Co ee what an upgrade
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Jetan
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Jetan » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:01 am

First I'll play the parliament to apply to join NATO. After that, machinate the withdrawal from the Ottawa Treaty. Thirdly try to limit the educational cuts and repeal the idiocy that was making higher education for non-EU students cost money. When all of those are done, concentrate on working to improving people's everyday lives in whichever manner is most prudent at the moment.
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Dahon
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Ex-Nation

Postby Dahon » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:28 am

tag
Authoritarianism kills all. Never forget that.

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Val Halla
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Postby Val Halla » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:31 am

I would overthrow myself. Leftists are a threat to national security
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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:34 am

Dahon wrote:tag

Don't do that.

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Dahon
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Postby Dahon » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:36 am

Ifreann wrote:
Dahon wrote:tag

Don't do that.


Sorry. Trying to formulate a honest-to-goodness coherent program is turning out to be a bit difficult if you only have ambition to power you through.
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Jetan
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Postby Jetan » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:41 am

Pulau Singapura wrote:Singapore
Maybe I will make lots of radical changes, like invading other nations, and making them bow down to Singapore the greatest nation in the world.
First on my colonies list would be Malaysia, Philippines and Vietnam. Maybe parts of Indonesia.
No need to be a PR before citizenship. Stay for 6 months and get an instant citizenship.
I would allow dual citizenships.
Compete with US, China, and Russia as a superpower with lots of colonies.
Condemn the NATO as an "organisation of war"
Ally with Russia.
Help poor countries all over the world.
Be that one noisy kid during international meetings.

Philippines
More meh type of changes, really.
Esteblish a Parliamentary system.
Abolish the current parties.
Condemn NATO.
Abolish all US bases.
Return a portion of Spratlys to China.
Demolish all poor areas.
Establishing urban, high rise homes and relocation sites.
Giant electric fan that would repel typhoons.
Railway system connecting all islands.
Ally with Russia.
Change currency to Rubles.
Allow foreign companies to invest.
Aim for an Urban Garden type of country.(like a giant Singapore)
Be the one noisy kid during international meetings.

So, what's the end game there? Clusterfuck of the year?
Second Finn, after Imm
........Геть Росію.........
Україна вільна і єдина
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.
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Always open to TGs. Pro/Against

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Pulau Singapura
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Postby Pulau Singapura » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:52 am

Jetan wrote:
Pulau Singapura wrote:Singapore
Maybe I will make lots of radical changes, like invading other nations, and making them bow down to Singapore the greatest nation in the world.
First on my colonies list would be Malaysia, Philippines and Vietnam. Maybe parts of Indonesia.
No need to be a PR before citizenship. Stay for 6 months and get an instant citizenship.
I would allow dual citizenships.
Compete with US, China, and Russia as a superpower with lots of colonies.
Condemn the NATO as an "organisation of war"
Ally with Russia.
Help poor countries all over the world.
Be that one noisy kid during international meetings.

Philippines
More meh type of changes, really.
Esteblish a Parliamentary system.
Abolish the current parties.
Condemn NATO.
Abolish all US bases.
Return a portion of Spratlys to China.
Demolish all poor areas.
Establishing urban, high rise homes and relocation sites.
Giant electric fan that would repel typhoons.
Railway system connecting all islands.
Ally with Russia.
Change currency to Rubles.
Allow foreign companies to invest.
Aim for an Urban Garden type of country.(like a giant Singapore)
Be the one noisy kid during international meetings.

So, what's the end game there? Clusterfuck of the year?

Dunno, what do you think would happen.?
"Destroy the seed of evil, or it will grow up to your ruin."

♫ 15 years old ♫ Female ♫ Protestant(Soon to be Sunni Muslim) ♫ KPOP Roleplayer(Freelance) ♫ Proud Malay ♫
☮ I stand with Palestine ☮ I stand with Assad ☮ I stand with the Centre-Right ☮ I stand with Diversity ☮
4:59 O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you.
I wear teal, blue & pink for Swith.
My people, from Pattani in Thailand, Mindanao in Philippines, Malaysian/Indonesian Borneo and Ambon in East Indonesia, stop fighting and lets live in peace. Kita orang semua basudara/saudara mara.

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Ifreann
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:54 am

Pulau Singapura wrote:
Jetan wrote:So, what's the end game there? Clusterfuck of the year?

Dunno, what do you think would happen.?

Severe clusterfuckery.

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Pulau Singapura
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Postby Pulau Singapura » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:55 am

Ifreann wrote:
Pulau Singapura wrote:Dunno, what do you think would happen.?

Severe clusterfuckery.

Which scenario? Singapore or Philippines?
And what do you mean by clusterfuckery?
"Destroy the seed of evil, or it will grow up to your ruin."

♫ 15 years old ♫ Female ♫ Protestant(Soon to be Sunni Muslim) ♫ KPOP Roleplayer(Freelance) ♫ Proud Malay ♫
☮ I stand with Palestine ☮ I stand with Assad ☮ I stand with the Centre-Right ☮ I stand with Diversity ☮
4:59 O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you.
I wear teal, blue & pink for Swith.
My people, from Pattani in Thailand, Mindanao in Philippines, Malaysian/Indonesian Borneo and Ambon in East Indonesia, stop fighting and lets live in peace. Kita orang semua basudara/saudara mara.

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Reutoa
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Ex-Nation

Postby Reutoa » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:57 am

I'd have to run for Prime Minister of the U.K., Then, I would shut down Elections and appoint a Military Cadinet and get the Help of Military and shut down all Riots and Revolts and then Attack Ireland some Crazy Accusations and Annex it, then, Invade Canada and annex it then Invade New Zealand and Australia and South Africa and Annex them and let them have Self-Rulf after maybe a couple of years under Military Rule, then Try to improve the Economy more and help the People of the Great Britain that have horrible living Conditions, then in the Balcony in the Royal Palace in London redeclare the British Empire, I have restored the British Might.

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Calimera II
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Calimera II » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:58 am

Pulau Singapura wrote:
Jetan wrote:So, what's the end game there? Clusterfuck of the year?

Dunno, what do you think would happen.?

You destroy two countries and become a repressive dictator who will eventually end up being killed by the international community.

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Yymea
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Ex-Nation

Postby Yymea » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:00 am

I would politely ask why I am there, and then proceed to try to not f up too badly.
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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:02 am

Pulau Singapura wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Severe clusterfuckery.

Which scenario? Singapore or Philippines?

Both.
And what do you mean by clusterfuckery?

I mean things would fuck up. And their fuck-upped-ness would compound itself and fuck more things up. Soon all that would be left would be fuck and up.

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Pulau Singapura
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Postby Pulau Singapura » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:16 am

Ifreann wrote:
Pulau Singapura wrote:Which scenario? Singapore or Philippines?

Both.
And what do you mean by clusterfuckery?

I mean things would fuck up. And their fuck-upped-ness would compound itself and fuck more things up. Soon all that would be left would be fuck and up.

Seriously though, why?
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♫ 15 years old ♫ Female ♫ Protestant(Soon to be Sunni Muslim) ♫ KPOP Roleplayer(Freelance) ♫ Proud Malay ♫
☮ I stand with Palestine ☮ I stand with Assad ☮ I stand with the Centre-Right ☮ I stand with Diversity ☮
4:59 O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you.
I wear teal, blue & pink for Swith.
My people, from Pattani in Thailand, Mindanao in Philippines, Malaysian/Indonesian Borneo and Ambon in East Indonesia, stop fighting and lets live in peace. Kita orang semua basudara/saudara mara.

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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:23 am

Pulau Singapura wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Both.

I mean things would fuck up. And their fuck-upped-ness would compound itself and fuck more things up. Soon all that would be left would be fuck and up.

Seriously though, why?

You want to know why invading other countries without causus belli won't work out for you? You want to know why you can't build an electric fan to repel typhoons?

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Postby Italios » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:25 am

Pulau Singapura wrote:Singapore
Maybe I will make lots of radical changes, like invading other nations, and making them bow down to Singapore the greatest nation in the world.

Good luck, you'll need it.
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Jetan
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Jetan » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:28 am

Pulau Singapura wrote:
Jetan wrote:So, what's the end game there? Clusterfuck of the year?

Dunno, what do you think would happen.?

Ifreann beat me to it. I agree with him.
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Mushet
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Mushet » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:38 am

USA

Well a top priority for me would be going through and doing my best to make sure that America will start to respect that supremacy clause and try to uphold indian treaties where they have been broken.

Also I will have the white house chefs make me Indian Tacos while I do it.

Sweet victory.

I'll do my best in other arenas as well, it would be my responsibility but that's what I'll jump into and attend to when more pressing matters don't confront me.

Y'know after I'm done exploring the white house at least, you need to do that.
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Nordrgard
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Postby Nordrgard » Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:17 am

I assume I have 50%+ in parliament in this scenario so I would reform the political system in many ways. I would adopt Swiss style referendums where people can gather enough signatures and then bring an issue to a vote. In addition I would jump start the process by holding referendums on a lot of questions of my choice. No matter how some of these issues might seem to the media, if it is the will of the people then it is the only democratic choice.

Here are some I could think of:

Should we leave the EEA?

Should we cancel the Schengen treaty?

Yes or no to privatization of hospitals?

Yes or no to privatization of the education system?

Stricter punishment for violent offenders?

Stricter punishment for sex offenders?

Decrease the amount of refugees we accept?

Only accept women and children refugees?

Refuse the UN quota for refugees?

Don't accept any new refugees or immigrants from Muslim countries?

Assimilation policy or integration policy?

Halt immigration of non-western males?

Decide the VAT on alcohol.

Decide the VAT on snus.

Decide the VAT on tobacco.

Should poker be completely legalized?

Should casinos be legalized? - Should they be private or state run?

Legalize cannabis?

Legalize harder drugs as prescription drugs?

Allow regulated prostitution?

Allow stores to keep open on Sundays?

Increase social benefits for low-income families with children?

Should families with children be given government aid to get into the housing market?

Increase the salary of public servants?

Should social welfare be exclusive to citizens and those married to citizens?

Should companies that make products that are harmful to humans, while hiding it, be punished?
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Mother Knows Best State

Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:26 am

Judge-led inquiry into how on earth this happened with the goal of insuring such a travesty never happens again. Separation of Church and State, as God I can't be involved in politics.
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