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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:36 pm

I've made a couple of these types of threads before, but I think it's an interesting topic and I've never really developed them as much as I would have liked so... here goes.

Chances are, most of us here have at least some yearning for power. Let's face it, this is a site about nation-building and politics, so the odds are pretty good that quite a few of us NS'ers have delusions of grandeur. At the very least, I know that I do.

So that being said, since we've all probably thought about it at least once, what would you do if you became the Head-of-State of your country? I could be wrong, but I imagine that this is something most people here on NSG would want. Maybe I'm the only crazy one here, but I think that the prospect of leading a country is something that more than a handful of us would find appealing. So all jokes aside, if you became the Head-of-State of your country, what would you do? In your response, please state which country you'd be ruling over (in doesn't have to be the country you're currently residing in, the choice is really up to you).

I guess I'll go first.

If, somehow, I became the Head-of-State of Canada, one of the first things I'd do is, well, consolidate power. I'm a bit of an oligarch, so I guess one of the first agendas on my list as Prime Minister (the de facto Canadian Head-of-State) would be subverting democracy. It's not that I dislike liberty, but I'm just not a fan of the concept of millions of people with little to no understanding of politics casting a vote every several years to decide on who gets to run the country. It's too idealistic and is lacking in efficiency. So, out the door it goes. With the backing of the military, I'd either seize temporary dictatorial powers or get ousted trying. The positions of Governor General and Monarch (the de jure Heads-of-State of Canada) would be abolished. This would probably cause some international tension, but I think it would be manageable. Canada would continue seeking close ties with the UK, but it would be as a fully sovereign nation.

Domestically, things would change somewhat radically. Economically speaking, I'm not opposed to privatization, but I think that some things are just better off being placed in the hands of the State. Energy, Natural Ressource and Utility companies would gradually be brought under government control through a process of buying them out and, if necessary, seizing them and offering their owners and shareholders severance packages. Income and commercial taxes nationwide would be removed (since with control over ressources I wouldn't see a need in keeping them in place), but property taxes would remain. Presumably, this would work out for everyone in a sustainable way. The government would have a continuous supply of funds, citizens' lives would improve and although there would be a few upset CEO's, they'd be compensated for their losses so it's not like they'd be completely screwed over.

As for the government itself, significant changes would be made. The party system would be abolished. Politicians should be loyal to their country, not their political party. Since democracy would be gone (which would turn a few heads, so political unrest could be an issue down the road), rather than an election-based system it would be switched to an appointment-based one. The Senate and House of Commons would be merged into a single entity, which in essence would run the country. Senators and MP's (members of parliament) would be reviewed. If deemed sufficiently capable, they would continue to serve in this new entity (let's call it a Senate, not to be confused with the previous one). If deemed incapable, they'd be offered severances packages and sent on their way. These new Senators wouldn't have term-limits (since if a politician's good at their job I see no reason to replace them), but they could be dismissed for things like corruption or inadequate performance of duties (the former resulting in imprisonment, the latter in retirement). Provincially and municipally, things would operate on a similar level. MLP's (members of the legislative assembly) would be appointed by senators, and they in turn would appoint politicians on a municipal, town-council level. Positions such as governor and mayor would be abolished, much like my own position after getting everything under control.

Judicially, several things would change. The death sentence would be reinstated, but only for cases of first-degree murder wherein there was undeniable evidence pertaining to the accused's guilt. If even a shred of doubt existed, the death penalty would not be applied. Judges would also be given more discretion in terms of deciding upon sentencing, and we'd gradually move away from judicial precedents and case-law. Quebec would also have to adopt the rest of the country's legal system, instead of following it's own.

Speaking of which, on the subject of Quebec, independence would not be an option. Ever. They'd be more than welcome to keep the Parti Québécois and Bloc Québécois, but neither would be recognized as political parties and Quebec would never be granted independence, even if popular opinion grew in favour of it. Additionally, all provincial autonomy and special rights would be taken away. They're part of Canada, whether they like it or not. If they want to publish material in French-only or engage in cultural activities then that's A-Okay, more power to them, but they would not be allowed to keep special language-protection rights.

Diplomatically Canada would seek closer ties with the United States, simply because they're our neighbours and we're pretty much each other's closest allies anyway, so it's a logical choice. Saint Pierre-and-Miquelon would be incorporated into Newfoundland. France would put up a major fuss, but it's sucking up too much of our Exclusive Economic Zone in the Grand Banks and I want it. They'd be compensated financially for their loss, but regardless whether they do or do not want to give it up peacefully, Canada would be taking it either way. Yes, I'd be a bit of an expansionist, and yes I'd be setting my eyes on Greenland too, but it's there, full of ressources and I'm sure America wouldn't mind too much if their Northern neighbour became slightly more militaristic. Denmark would just have to endure the loss. We'd probably help out with a couple more NATO coalition campaigns, just to preserve international relations.

So yeah, there's a lot of other things I'd do, but that pretty much sums up the main bulk of it. Sorry if it looks a bit blog'ish, but I'm sure many of you have your own ideas you'd like to write down, and I look forward to reading them. Have at it, if you will.

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Postby Greater Hunnia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:16 pm

The most important thing in my country (Hungary) would be putting an end to the all-consuming corruption. I'd temporarily sieze dictatorial power, for that, I'd need the support of the military and a few hundred capable, well trained individuals. My first, temporary order would be the banishment of all political leaders, high ranking police officers, judges, and prosecutors who held office before I got into power. These people would be substituted by the few hundred capable, and trusted individuals I mentioned earlier. The officials removed from power would be forbidden from leaving the country. One-by one, over the course of a few years, they would be carefully screened, those who are all clear could get their jobs back, those who are not would be dealth with adequitly. After a new government is set up, I'd give up most of my power and become a quasi-monarch (regent). My powers would be the ability to veto any legislation made by the parliment, and to propose legislations myself, and I'd be the de jure head of the military.

Democracy would be reformed, the universal right to vote would be abolished. Elections would be held every 8 years instead of 4, but by public referendum, new elections could be requested (this would have to be approved by me). Citizens would have to pass a simple test to assess their factual knowlege about politics and their ability to reason to vote. If there's a consensus between parents on who they want to vote for, they'd also gain extra votes for their children (at most 3).

Death penalty would be reinstituted, but only applied when a case of murder with exceptional brutality, treason, or large scale fraud is proven beyond any doubt. For lesser crimes, prison sentence would be substituted with for-profit forced, but humane labour. For even lesser crimes, that are currently penalised by a few weeks of imprisonment and / or fine, flogging would be a cheaper alternative and a better deterrant, especially in rural areas. Any case of corruption or abuse of power would bar a person from entering any government sector jobs for the remainder of their life.

I'd deal with NGOs the same way as Russia does. And any factual errors made by the media would be heavily penalised.

The Hungarian Scientific Academy would be throughly screened, as I suspect that political agendas are currently priorised over the objective truth in their researches. Once it's cleansed, researches regarding our ancient history, which was a taboo in the past 60 years, should be made. I'd try to make a deal with Russia and Ukrainie to exchange the bodies of dead WW2 soldiers, as the treatment of their graves on both sides is currently a source of tensions.

Conscription would be reinstituted, but with the Swiss model instead of the Soviet one. This, especially the armed population would significantly increase Hungary's defensive capabilities with barely any extra cost.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:17 pm

Nuke everything.

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:18 pm

Quit and take my pension. Maybe hang around long enough to address the media about how odd it is that a random person got into high office by, like, magic or something.


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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:24 pm

Appoint someone competent as my VP, resign. I've no interest in stress and rapidly accelerated aging.
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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:25 pm

Greater Hunnia wrote:The most important thing in my country (Hungary) would be putting an end to the all-consuming corruption. I'd temporarily sieze dictatorial power, for that, I'd need the support of the military and a few hundred capable, well trained pindividuals. My first, temporary order would be the banishment of all political leaders, high ranking police officers, judges, and prosecutors who held office before I got into power. These people would be sustituted by the few hundred capable, and trusted individuals I mentioned earlier. The officials removed from power would be forbidden from leaving the country. One-by one, over the course of a few years, they would be carefully screened, those who are all clear could get their jobs back, those who are not would be dealth with adequitly. After a new government is set up, I'd give up most of my power and become a quasi-monarch (regent). My powers would be the ability to veto any legislation made by the parliment, and to propose legislations myself, and I'd be the de jure head of the military.

Democracy would be reformed, the universal right to vote would be abolished. Elections would be held every 8 years instead of 4, but by public referendum, new elections could be requested (this would have to be approved by me). Citizens would have to pass a simple test to assess their factual knowlege about politics and their ability to reason to vote. If there's a consensus between parents on who they want to vote for, they'd also gain extra votes for their children (at most 3).

Death penalty would be reinstituted, but only applied when a case of murder with exceptional brutality, treason, or large scale fraud is proven beyond any doubt. For lesser crimes, prison sentence would be substituted with for-profit forced, but humane labour. For even lesser crimes, that are currently penalised by a few weeks of imprisonment and / or fine, flogging would be a cheaper alternative and a better deterrant, especially in rural areas. Any case of corruption or abuse of power would bar a person from entering any government sector jobs for the remainder of their life.

I'd deal with NGOs the same way as Russia does. And any factual errors made by the media would be heavily penalised.

The Hungarian Scientific Academy would be throughly screened, as I suspect that political agendas are currently priorised over the objective truth in their researches. Once it's cleansed, researches regarding our ancient history, which was a taboo in the past 60 years, should be made. I'd try to make a deal with Russia and Ukrainie to exchange the bodies of dead WW2 soldiers, as the treatment of their graves on both sides is currently a source of tensions.

Conscription would be reinstituted, but with the Swiss model instead of the Soviet one. This, especially the armed population would significantly increase Hungary's defensive capabilities with barely any extra cost.


Very interesting.

I'm curious, what would be your policies in regards to the European Union.

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Postby Wolfmanne2 » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:25 pm

Throw a party, invite people I know, maybe a few randoms, get absolutely smashed etc.

Do a few things I think need to be done which can be achieved with minimum effort.

Resign.
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Postby Ontorisa » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:27 pm

Make it illegal for people to go to Toronto Maple Leafs games.

Then those people will have to become Senators fans :twisted:

Then I'd resign because fuck y'all.

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:28 pm

As head of state of a constitutional monarchy, I'd probably sign off bills, visit hospitals, pay official visits to other countries, keep my mouth shut about politics and generally follow my ministers' advice.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:28 pm

I suppose if I had to, I'd push to reintegrate Iran into the international order, isolate Russia, be cautious with China, get tough on Israel, and cut off Saudi Arabia from US support completely. I'd forge closer ties with Africa and do everything I could to encourage investment and aid to the continent, since that's the next rising star. Domestically my concern would be stopping tax avoidance and evasion by the wealthy, particularly regarding overseas accounts, to lessen or eliminate the deficit.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:31 pm

Tell one aide to bring me my enemies list, a second aide to have someone build a scaffold outside, and a third aide to send for the tailor so I can be measured for my uniforms.
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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:35 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Appoint someone competent as my VP, resign. I've no interest in stress and rapidly accelerated aging.


Yeah, the accelerated aging thing is certainly a downside, particularly for US presidents.

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Postby Louis20 » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:36 pm

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Postby Imperium of Darvi » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:37 pm

Legalize Marijuana for the only reason of taxing the hell out of it. sweet, sweet tax revenue. Oh yeah, and I would put most of that into education and defense, or maybe deal with the debt problem.

Make it so that the Congress can't set the Debt limit lower then what the actually budget requires.
President's budget:
Amount need: 600 million
Amount allowed: 600 million

Forget that! this is what we get:

Congress' Budget:
Amount needed: 800 million
Amount allowed: 500 million

^this needs to stop

I would also like to improve relations with our allies, and strengthen them. Like Israel and Taiwan, maybe give them both a couple nukes to protect their independence. Then I would probably help get Kurdistan independent.

oh yeah and I would ban or heavily tax abortion (except for people like Rape victims, they get a free pass)
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:37 pm

Probably something like this:

I'll pick the UK, because it's the one i'm most familiar with.

1. Legalize, tax, and regulate all the prohibitionist sectors of the economy. Reroute funds from prohibitionism into education and rehabilitation.
(Drugs, prostitution, etc.)

2. Liberalize all the socially conservative laws. (Porn bans, euthanasia, bans on polygamy, bans on consensual cannibalism, bans on consensual incest, etc.)

3. Increase welfare payments but tie welfare to working for government approved charities or schemes at least one day a week. (Unless disabled or a full time parent/carer.) (For a number of reasons, but mostly to eliminate or reduce anti-welfare sentiment which constitutes a threat to the continuation of the welfare state.)

4. Dramatically re-balance gender laws and regulations to better achieve equality. Gender neutral and comprehensive sex education. Demand a masculinities (MRA influenced.) course at every university that has womens studies.
(MRA all the way.)

5. Shift tax burdens to corporations and away from the sales tax and individual incomes.

6. Found a syndicate grant and push for syndication of parts of the economy.
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7. Use 3 to push a bunch of unemployed people into manufacturing and installing green technology across the country first on public buildings and such, eventually expanding out toward poor and middle class houses, and the rich eventually.

8. Privatize the state church, selling it off to the highest bidder.

9. Regional parliaments (Subject to 10.).

10. Abolish the lords and establish a jurist second house.
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11. Form a secretive cult of serial killing elites and spies to my particular religious narrative.

12. Reform and modernize the education system. Especially focusing on empirical evidence analysis, logic, and psychology tricks for min-maxing memory and perception.

13. Slowly stuff the intelligence services with liberal extremist neocons who are members of the aforementioned cult.

14. Push for a more hardline UN that'll intervene more in times of crisis and instability in a region in order to bring about democratic government.

15. Have social conservative politicians and dictators across the globe assassinated on a frequent basis by aforementioned cultists to generate instability and to delegitimize the "Hardmen bring stability" meme.
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16. Build more houses.

17. Push for a space-elevator to be developed and for space colonization.

18. Invest in farming reform and tower farming grants, as well as more nature parks.

19. Gear the economy toward social-democratic tendencies in general.

20. Be impeached after a corruption/sex/serial killing/drugs scandal.


Parts tongue-in-cheek, but broadly speaking, this type of thing. 14 relies on 15 to deliver global democracy, but those aspects of my policies aren't serious. There would be an eye toward destabilizing autocratic regimes on purpose through various means in order to then whine to the UN about invading to restore order and establish a democracy, but murder isn't a necessary component of it. It's just the most blunt and direct way to go about it.

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Yeh, elect me, and I will purposefully manipulate countries we don't like into collapsing so we can invade them and make them less shit.
But i'd do so quietly, because international backlash and terrorism. That's also why you use the UN to establish the democracies. No tie to the home nation then. *taps nose*
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:38 pm

Sanctissima wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Appoint someone competent as my VP, resign. I've no interest in stress and rapidly accelerated aging.


Yeah, the accelerated aging thing is certainly a downside, particularly for US presidents.

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It's not that they age faster, it's that they use the Presidential Time Machine to live every day 2 or 3 times over.

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Postby Tierra Prime » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:42 pm

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Postby Risottia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:43 pm

Sanctissima wrote:If, somehow, I became the Head-of-State of Canada, one of the first things I'd do is, well, consolidate power. I'm a bit of an oligarch, so I guess one of the first agendas on my list as Prime Minister (the de facto Canadian Head-of-State) would be subverting democracy.


You could not. If you were the King/Queen of Canada you wouldn't be legally able, and if you were the Prime Minister the Governor General would have you replaced.

As for me:
if I were the President of the Italian Republic, I'd have the gardens of the Quirinal Palace and half of the palace itself open to tourists every day, not just on Sundays. I'd also turn Castel Porziano (the summer residence of the President) into a public museum. I'd also keep a stronger watch on the constitutionality of the laws and decrees the Parliament and the Council of Ministers send me for signature and send them more often to the Constitutional Court for review. I'd also have the President of the Senate, the President of the Chamber, the President of the Council of Ministers and the Vice-President of the Supreme Judiciary Council come to the Quirinal every week.
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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:46 pm

Risottia wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:If, somehow, I became the Head-of-State of Canada, one of the first things I'd do is, well, consolidate power. I'm a bit of an oligarch, so I guess one of the first agendas on my list as Prime Minister (the de facto Canadian Head-of-State) would be subverting democracy.


You could not. If you were the King/Queen of Canada you wouldn't be legally able, and if you were the Prime Minister the Governor General would have you replaced.


Like I said, I'd try to get the backing of the military. I wouldn't really take the legal aspect of it into account. It would be something I'd do either way.

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Postby Second Blazing » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:49 pm

Appoint Donald Trump as my VP then resign and just watch the world burn.
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Postby Risottia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:53 pm

Sanctissima wrote:
Risottia wrote:
You could not. If you were the King/Queen of Canada you wouldn't be legally able, and if you were the Prime Minister the Governor General would have you replaced.


Like I said, I'd try to get the backing of the military. I wouldn't really take the legal aspect of it into account. It would be something I'd do either way.


The Canadian military making a putsch? Meh.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:53 pm

I'd become the king of the Netherlands... Which means I'll have to keep signing laws (no matter if I agree with them or not) and visit foreign nations for laughs. Also, I'll have to smile at the camera a lot.
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Postby Second Blazing » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:56 pm

Risottia wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
Like I said, I'd try to get the backing of the military. I wouldn't really take the legal aspect of it into account. It would be something I'd do either way.


The Canadian military making a putsch? Meh.


A coup detehhh?
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Postby Risottia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:57 pm

Second Blazing wrote:
Risottia wrote:
The Canadian military making a putsch? Meh.


A coup detehhh?


A coup detehhh would be the summer version of a coup detahhh.
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