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Postby Kannap » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:06 pm

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You have still not provided me with sources that support your claims.

I have but you just ignore it.


I have nothing more to say to you about the PC(USA) here. Feel free to find your sources and bring them to me in the Christian Discussion Thread.
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:08 pm

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So what, perhaps Tom likes kissing Brad. Perhaps Tom and Brad like holding hands. Perhaps Tom and Brad want to be married and adopt children together. Perhaps throughout their entire life journey, Tom and Brad remain celibate.

Perhaps Tom and Brad repent of their sin.

If Tom and Brad are kissing, then obviously there is some sort of sexual attraction going on.


The bible says nothing about sexual attraction, it only condemns the actual act.

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Postby Kannap » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:08 pm

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So what, perhaps Tom likes kissing Brad. Perhaps Tom and Brad like holding hands. Perhaps Tom and Brad want to be married and adopt children together. Perhaps throughout their entire life journey, Tom and Brad remain celibate.

Perhaps Tom and Brad repent of their sin.

If Tom and Brad are kissing, then obviously there is some sort of sexual attraction going on.


Kissing =/= sex.

Try again.
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Postby Grand Calvert » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:08 pm

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Grand Calvert wrote:No because Peter did not exercise authority over other congregations. He was the Bishop of Rome, but being the Bishop of Rome at that time is not like what it is today.


Explain what has changed? The Fisherman was the leader of the first congregation and his descendants are the leader of God's church on earth. If you want to appeal to history then why aren't you following the original church of Christ?

What about eastern churches that claim to be founded by Jesus?
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Postby Grand Calvert » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:09 pm

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Grand Calvert wrote:Perhaps Tom and Brad repent of their sin.

If Tom and Brad are kissing, then obviously there is some sort of sexual attraction going on.


Kissing =/= sex.

Try again.

Kissing in the romantic sense is sexual in nature.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:10 pm

Grand Calvert wrote:
Kannap wrote:
So what, perhaps Tom likes kissing Brad. Perhaps Tom and Brad like holding hands. Perhaps Tom and Brad want to be married and adopt children together. Perhaps throughout their entire life journey, Tom and Brad remain celibate.

Perhaps Tom and Brad repent of their sin.

If Tom and Brad are kissing, then obviously there is some sort of sexual attraction going on.

No. It's most likely romantic love. Or is romantic love, being different from sexual love, also sinful to you?
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Postby Grand Calvert » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:10 pm

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Grand Calvert wrote:I have but you just ignore it.


I have nothing more to say to you about the PC(USA) here. Feel free to find your sources and bring them to me in the Christian Discussion Thread.

"Find my sources" I have but you just ignored them.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:11 pm

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Explain what has changed? The Fisherman was the leader of the first congregation and his descendants are the leader of God's church on earth. If you want to appeal to history then why aren't you following the original church of Christ?

What about eastern churches that claim to be founded by Jesus?


Are they Baptist churches?

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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:11 pm

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Kannap wrote:
Kissing =/= sex.

Try again.

Kissing in the romantic sense is sexual in nature.


Really, because every time you kiss your high school sweetheart, you are really thinking about porking her, right? Again, this is your unworldliness speaking, you have no idea how humans work, do you?

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Postby Grand Calvert » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:12 pm

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Grand Calvert wrote:What about eastern churches that claim to be founded by Jesus?


Are they Baptist churches?

...no...
To be honest I have considered switching denominations but that's a discussion for another time
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Postby Grand Calvert » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:14 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Grand Calvert wrote:Kissing in the romantic sense is sexual in nature.


Really, because every time you kiss your high school sweetheart, you are really thinking about porking her, right? Again, this is your unworldliness speaking, you have no idea how humans work, do you?

I don't have any "sweethearts" thank you. And let's be honest, when people kiss in the romantic context, sexual urges are usually fueling it. It doesn't always lead to sex but that's the basic instinct behind it
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Postby Kannap » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:15 pm

Grand Calvert wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Kissing =/= sex.

Try again.

Kissing in the romantic sense is sexual in nature.


Kissing =/= sex

Try again.
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:16 pm

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Really, because every time you kiss your high school sweetheart, you are really thinking about porking her, right? Again, this is your unworldliness speaking, you have no idea how humans work, do you?

I don't have any "sweethearts" thank you. And let's be honest, when people kiss in the romantic context, sexual urges are usually fueling it. It doesn't always lead to sex but that's the basic instinct behind it


Let's be honest, you actually don't have any idea how people work, you are just making stuff up on the top of your head, you have no idea how romantic love work, and I doubt you have an idea about how the love of God and the love Jesus came to teach works either.

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Postby Grand Calvert » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:18 pm

Kannap wrote:
Grand Calvert wrote:Kissing in the romantic sense is sexual in nature.


Kissing =/= sex

Try again.

Try again this, try again that. I don't need to "try again". Tom and Brad can go open up a Bible and realize that God's design for the human family is one man and one woman (and kids). I don't care if they don't have sex, it still goes against God's design.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:19 pm

Grand Calvert wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Really, because every time you kiss your high school sweetheart, you are really thinking about porking her, right? Again, this is your unworldliness speaking, you have no idea how humans work, do you?

I don't have any "sweethearts" thank you. And let's be honest, when people kiss in the romantic context, sexual urges are usually fueling it. It doesn't always lead to sex but that's the basic instinct behind it


Because every human on this planet has the single goal of having sex in their mind during every second of every day and they refuse to simply accept the idea that a simple kiss is a chance to show emotional attachment to a person they love.
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:20 pm

Grand Calvert wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Kissing =/= sex

Try again.

Try again this, try again that. I don't need to "try again". Tom and Brad can go open up a Bible and realize that God's design for the human family is one man and one woman (and kids). I don't care if they don't have sex, it still goes against God's design.

We already have had this discussion about those passages, and all that came out of it was the need for you to open the Bible and read what it says.

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Postby Conscentia » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:20 pm

Grand Calvert wrote:
Kannap wrote:I have nothing more to say to you about the PC(USA) here. Feel free to find your sources and bring them to me in the Christian Discussion Thread.

"Find my sources" I have but you just ignored them.

I've glanced at your recent post history, and you don't to have posted any sources. Closest thing to a source you gave was a line that amounted to 'go read the Bible'.

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Postby New confederate ramenia » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:23 pm

Zoo Trouble wrote:Does anyone know what the Christians are called that reject the Pauline Epistles? I believe most of the marriage mumbo jumbo comes from Paul in the NEw Testament, but I could be wrong.

Heretics
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Postby Kannap » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:24 pm

Grand Calvert wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Kissing =/= sex

Try again.

Try again this, try again that. I don't need to "try again". Tom and Brad can go open up a Bible and realize that God's design for the human family is one man and one woman (and kids). I don't care if they don't have sex, it still goes against God's design.


Ah, so if Sally and Thomas are infertile and therefore cannot have children, does God hate them because they cannot conform to "God's design" of a family being one man, one woman, and children?

Perhaps Jennifer and Greg love each other but don't want to have children, so they just adopt some dogs instead and never have children during their lives. Does God hate them for not conforming to his design of a family being one man, one woman, and children?

What if, like Tom and Brad, a couple named Megan and George remain celibate and never have sex? Perhaps they're both asexual and have no interest in having sex and simply want to cuddle and kiss each other on the cheeks? Does God hate Megan and George?
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Postby Conscentia » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:28 pm

Grand Calvert wrote:
Kannap wrote:Kissing =/= sex
Try again.

Try again this, try again that. I don't need to "try again". Tom and Brad can go open up a Bible and realize that God's design for the human family is one man and one woman (and kids). I don't care if they don't have sex, it still goes against God's design.

One woman? Numerous biblical characters with God's approval were polygamous.

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Kauthar wrote:i would be happy but anglicans are heretics, i would go as far as saying infidels.

Infidels is rather much don't you think?
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:30 pm

Kannap wrote:
Grand Calvert wrote:Try again this, try again that. I don't need to "try again". Tom and Brad can go open up a Bible and realize that God's design for the human family is one man and one woman (and kids). I don't care if they don't have sex, it still goes against God's design.


Ah, so if Sally and Thomas are infertile and therefore cannot have children, does God hate them because they cannot conform to "God's design" of a family being one man, one woman, and children?

Perhaps Jennifer and Greg love each other but don't want to have children, so they just adopt some dogs instead and never have children during their lives. Does God hate them for not conforming to his design of a family being one man, one woman, and children?

What if, like Tom and Brad, a couple named Megan and George remain celibate and never have sex? Perhaps they're both asexual and have no interest in having sex and simply want to cuddle and kiss each other on the cheeks? Does God hate Megan and George?


Apparently, his God would have been too busy hating everyone to send his only begotten son to wash us of our sin.

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Postby The Hobbesian Metaphysician » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:30 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:
Zoo Trouble wrote:Does anyone know what the Christians are called that reject the Pauline Epistles? I believe most of the marriage mumbo jumbo comes from Paul in the NEw Testament, but I could be wrong.

Heretics

Not necessarily.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:34 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Ah, so if Sally and Thomas are infertile and therefore cannot have children, does God hate them because they cannot conform to "God's design" of a family being one man, one woman, and children?

Perhaps Jennifer and Greg love each other but don't want to have children, so they just adopt some dogs instead and never have children during their lives. Does God hate them for not conforming to his design of a family being one man, one woman, and children?

What if, like Tom and Brad, a couple named Megan and George remain celibate and never have sex? Perhaps they're both asexual and have no interest in having sex and simply want to cuddle and kiss each other on the cheeks? Does God hate Megan and George?


Apparently, his God would have been too busy hating everyone to send his only begotten son to wash us of our sin.

His God and Jack Chick's God should go bowling along with The Holy Family Monastery's God as they chat about how much they hate the human race.
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Postby The Hobbesian Metaphysician » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:35 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Apparently, his God would have been too busy hating everyone to send his only begotten son to wash us of our sin.

His God and Jack Chick's God should go bowling along with The Holy Family Monastery's God.

To be fair no one knows if Jack Chick is one of the greatest satirists of torture porn or is actually serious.
I am just going to lay it out here, I am going to be very blunt.

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