Anglican church against gay marriage

[Kannap]

Source?



"I know enough about __________" is not a valid argument. For all I know, you know absolutely nothing about either

"Source?" I gave you a source, it's called the infallible Word of God.

You have made the statement that my denomination's church structure and practice are unbiblical. Feel free to source a Scriptural text that says so or I will just be left to disregard your opinion.

Which your "church" does not truly defend or care about.

Feel free to provide a source that proves my church doesn't care about the Word of God. God saying, "The PC(USA) doesn't care about what I say" should suffice, maybe then I will acknowledge your biased hatred of my denomination and your opinions of my beliefs.

I know this because no one who truly embraces God affirms that which is detestable to Him.

And I am sure you've been elected Supreme Court Justice of Heaven by God himself and are able to judge who truly embraces God and who doesn't.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Do you understand the difference between endogesis and exegesis?

In the former, you are simply reading your interpretation into the Bible, which is what I have shown you to be guilty of doing, and which you admit to be guilty of doing.

That's what YOU'RE doing.

You claim this, yet you are the one who claim that homosexuality is a sin and God hates gay marriage, when there is no mention of gay marriage, and only homosexual sexual activities are condemned.

[Grand Calvert]

"Source?" I gave you a source, it's called the infallible Word of God.

You have made the statement that my denomination's church structure and practice are unbiblical. Feel free to source a Scriptural text that says so or I will just be left to disregard your opinion.

Which your "church" does not truly defend or care about.

Feel free to provide a source that proves my church doesn't care about the Word of God. God saying, "The PC(USA) doesn't care about what I say" should suffice, maybe then I will acknowledge your biased hatred of my denomination and your opinions of my beliefs.

I know this because no one who truly embraces God affirms that which is detestable to Him.

And I am sure you've been elected Supreme Court Justice of Heaven by God himself and are able to judge who truly embraces God and who doesn't.

You make it sound like I'm pulling this all out of my ass but this is traditional Christian doctrine that we have simply always believed.

[Grand Calvert]

That's what YOU'RE doing.

You claim this, yet you are the one who claim that homosexuality is a sin and God hates gay marriage, when there is no mention of gay marriage, and only homosexual sexual activities are condemned.

It's called homoSEXUAL for a reason.

[Kannap]

Having women ministers and supporting same sex marriages makes us a "fluffy liberal denomination"?

It just means that he isn't so much concern with the truth of your denomination as he is about condemning it based on his pharisaical conservativism.

That's the same sense that I am getting. Presumably it is the same feeling that the Episcopal church is getting from the Anglican church.

[Fartsniffage]

You have made the statement that my denomination's church structure and practice are unbiblical. Feel free to source a Scriptural text that says so or I will just be left to disregard your opinion.



Feel free to provide a source that proves my church doesn't care about the Word of God. God saying, "The PC(USA) doesn't care about what I say" should suffice, maybe then I will acknowledge your biased hatred of my denomination and your opinions of my beliefs.



And I am sure you've been elected Supreme Court Justice of Heaven by God himself and are able to judge who truly embraces God and who doesn't.

You make it sound like I'm pulling this all out of my ass but this is traditional Christian doctrine that we have simply always believed.

So why aren't you Catholic? That's the oldest Christian denomination. If you hold with what christians have always believed then you should be Catholic.

[Zoo Trouble]

I gave you a source, it's called the infallible Word of God. Which your "church" does not truly defend or care about.

Please don't speak for me. For this, you will be punished for eternity.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

You have yet to show that being gay is a sin, which is as absurd as saying being a man is a sin, or having an extra thumb is a sin.

I've already shown you and you intentionally ignored it because anything I say to support my position you'll just reinterpret.

No, you only showed several verses that condemns male homosexual sexual intercourse, which I agree that the Bible condemns, but not homosexuality as a sexual orientation, which needs not include sex, and which the Bible makes no mention of. You are simply interpreting a condemnation of gay sex to mean a condemnation of homosexuality in general.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

You claim this, yet you are the one who claim that homosexuality is a sin and God hates gay marriage, when there is no mention of gay marriage, and only homosexual sexual activities are condemned.

It's called homoSEXUAL for a reason.

You do realize that the sexual in homosexual simply means gender, right? Or should you ignorance of the Bible be extended to your ignorance of the English language?

[Grand Calvert]

You make it sound like I'm pulling this all out of my ass but this is traditional Christian doctrine that we have simply always believed.

So why aren't you Catholic? That's the oldest Christian denomination. If you hold with what christians have always believed then you should be Catholic.

No because Peter did not exercise authority over other congregations. He was the Bishop of Rome, but being the Bishop of Rome at that time is not like what it is today.

[Grand Calvert]

It's called homoSEXUAL for a reason.

You do realize that the sexual in homosexual simply means gender, right? Or should you ignorance of the Bible be extended to your ignorance of the English language?

Right but the main thing about homosexuality is that you're attracted to the same gender

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

You do realize that the sexual in homosexual simply means gender, right? Or should you ignorance of the Bible be extended to your ignorance of the English language?

Right but the main thing about homosexuality is that you're attracted to the same gender

This attraction does not mean sex.

[Kannap]

You have made the statement that my denomination's church structure and practice are unbiblical. Feel free to source a Scriptural text that says so or I will just be left to disregard your opinion.



Feel free to provide a source that proves my church doesn't care about the Word of God. God saying, "The PC(USA) doesn't care about what I say" should suffice, maybe then I will acknowledge your biased hatred of my denomination and your opinions of my beliefs.



And I am sure you've been elected Supreme Court Justice of Heaven by God himself and are able to judge who truly embraces God and who doesn't.

You make it sound like I'm pulling this all out of my ass but this is traditional Christian doctrine that we have simply always believed.

You have still not provided me with sources that support your claims.

[Scanzian Freehold]

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I'm sorry... I didn't realize this was a meeting of the Interfaith Pedantism Society... I thought this was a thread about the official Anglican Church and its current stance on gay marriage? I must be in the wrong room...

[Grand Calvert]

Right but the main thing about homosexuality is that you're attracted to the same gender

This attraction does not mean sex.

It does in most cases.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

So why aren't you Catholic? That's the oldest Christian denomination. If you hold with what christians have always believed then you should be Catholic.

No because Peter did not exercise authority over other congregations. He was the Bishop of Rome, but being the Bishop of Rome at that time is not like what it is today.

Peter is first amongst apostle, and was given the keys to heaven (the ability to interpret scripture correctly), and whose authority is passed to the Holy Mother Church...so Catholic Theology goes.

[Grand Calvert]

You make it sound like I'm pulling this all out of my ass but this is traditional Christian doctrine that we have simply always believed.

You have still not provided me with sources that support your claims.

I have but you just ignore it.

[Valystria]

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I'm sorry... I didn't realize this was a meeting of the Interfaith Pedantism Society... I thought this was a thread about the official Anglican Church and its current stance on gay marriage? I must be in the wrong room...

Indeed. The Christianity thread is this way ->

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=359645

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

This attraction does not mean sex.

It does in most cases.

No, no it doesn't. Even if two gay fellas do make love, their love for each other isn't based around sex, just as a man may love his wife, even if they never have sex at all. Or is this your 16 year old inexperience with the world talking?

[Kannap]

You do realize that the sexual in homosexual simply means gender, right? Or should you ignorance of the Bible be extended to your ignorance of the English language?

Right but the main thing about homosexuality is that you're attracted to the same gender

So what, perhaps Tom likes kissing Brad. Perhaps Tom and Brad like holding hands. Perhaps Tom and Brad want to be married and adopt children together. Perhaps throughout their entire life journey, Tom and Brad remain celibate.

[Grand Calvert]

No because Peter did not exercise authority over other congregations. He was the Bishop of Rome, but being the Bishop of Rome at that time is not like what it is today.

Peter is first amongst apostle, and was given the keys to heaven (the ability to interpret scripture correctly), and whose authority is passed to the Holy Mother Church...so Catholic Theology goes.

But Peter was corrected multiple times by Paul. If Peter had ultimate authority then Peter should have condemned Paul for trying to correct him.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

You have still not provided me with sources that support your claims.

I have but you just ignore it.

Then post it up again.

[Grand Calvert]

Right but the main thing about homosexuality is that you're attracted to the same gender

So what, perhaps Tom likes kissing Brad. Perhaps Tom and Brad like holding hands. Perhaps Tom and Brad want to be married and adopt children together. Perhaps throughout their entire life journey, Tom and Brad remain celibate.

Perhaps Tom and Brad repent of their sin.

If Tom and Brad are kissing, then obviously there is some sort of sexual attraction going on.

[Grand Calvert]

I have but you just ignore it.

Then post it up again.

No, just go back and read it.

[Fartsniffage]

So why aren't you Catholic? That's the oldest Christian denomination. If you hold with what christians have always believed then you should be Catholic.

No because Peter did not exercise authority over other congregations. He was the Bishop of Rome, but being the Bishop of Rome at that time is not like what it is today.

Explain what has changed? The Fisherman was the leader of the first congregation and his descendants are the leader of God's church on earth. If you want to appeal to history then why aren't you following the original church of Christ?