Being an atheist anti-abortion?

[Narxi]

Why is it so uncommon for an atheist to be anti-abortion? I understand that religious people often claim that because god said so blah blah blah... And then every atheist I have met says that abortion is not bad because.... science??? Why don't any atheist (that i have met) have the viewpoint that life begins at conception?

I have never read any scientific articles that have convinced me that life does not begin at conception. They are often vague and never define when life begins and when they do define when life begins it seems just as arbitrary as life beginning at conception, therefor I'm going to stick with the safe assumption that life begins at conception to avoid any unnecessary deaths of a child.

(I'm not talking about extreme circumstances, ex: life/death, child being born into extreme poverty)

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Atheists tend to be socially liberal. I'll trawl for the poll, but something like 80% of American atheists are Democrats/Independent, two groups who have an inclination to support looser abortion laws.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Why is it so uncommon for an atheist to be anti-abortion? I understand that religious people often claim that because god said so blah blah blah... And then every atheist I have met says that abortion is not bad because.... science??? Why don't any atheist (that i have met) have the viewpoint that life begins at conception?

I have never read any scientific articles that have convinced me that life does not begin at conception. They are often vague and never define when life begins and when they do define when life begins it seems just as arbitrary as life beginning at conception, therefor I'm going to stick with the safe assumption that life begins at conception to avoid any unnecessary deaths of a child.

(I'm not talking about extreme circumstances, ex: life/death, child being born into extreme poverty)

Because it doesn't. A non-sentient clump of cells does not life make, at least not in the meaning used in the abortion debate. A fetus also isn't a child.

It's probably because Atheists tend to be pretty social liberal like LibLing said, and supporting pro-choice is a fairly common position amongst that group.

[The Liberated Territories]

Atheists don't share Christian morality.

[Diopolis]

First off this is not an abortion thread, I hope.

More relevantly, it seems a fair number of atheists left their churches because they didn't like Christian morality.

[Neutraligon]

Many atheists are anti-abortion; they are also pro-choice. Most of the time it is because they place the ability of the mother to control what goes on inside her body as having more importance than a clump of cells that does not even have the ability to feel, let alone think.

[MERIZoC]

And then every atheist I have met says that abortion is not bad because.... science???

I've never heard this sort of argument lol.

[The Liberated Territories]

And then every atheist I have met says that abortion is not bad because.... science???

I've never heard this sort of argument lol.

I have. It goes something like this:

"Jeebus Science be praised!"

[The Great Devourer of All]

Atheists don't share Christian morality.

Don't cut yourself on that edge there mate.

[The Liberated Territories]

Atheists don't share Christian morality.

Don't cut yourself on that edge there mate.

OK? I am simply stating the obvious.

[Havenburgh]

Im a atheist and I say yes to abortion because no government has the right to tell a woman what to do with her body. And if you dont like abortion, dont get it. If you dont like it, it doesnt mean you outlaw it for everyone else. If that was the case outlaw video games, and drinking, gambling...

[Narxi]

Because it doesn't. A non-sentient clump of cells does not life make, at least not in the meaning used in the abortion debate. A fetus also isn't a child.

It's probably because Atheists tend to be pretty social liberal like LibLing said, and supporting pro-choice is a fairly common position amongst that group.

Why is it not life? A child isn't an adult, but we don't let children be murdered because they are not adults yet. So why can't i say that a human fetus shouldn't be murdered simply because it's not a child yet? It's simply in a different stage of life, and I think all stages of life should be protected from death.

[The Great Devourer of All]

Don't cut yourself on that edge there mate.

OK? I am simply stating the obvious.

The way you said it sorta made it sound like athiests don't have morals. Or that Christians have more.

[Aggicificicerous]

I have never read any scientific articles that have convinced me that life does not begin at conception.

And what makes you think that it does? Life is begat by life; in order for conception to take place, life must already exist.

[The Liberated Territories]

OK? I am simply stating the obvious.

The way you said it sorta made it sound like athiests don't have morals.

Did I say that atheists didn't have morals? How did I structure the sentence in a manner which made you presume that I implied atheists didn't have morals?

I am sure atheists have morals. They just don't necessarily share Christian morals, particularly like anti-abortion.

[Diopolis]

Because it doesn't. A non-sentient clump of cells does not life make, at least not in the meaning used in the abortion debate. A fetus also isn't a child.

It's probably because Atheists tend to be pretty social liberal like LibLing said, and supporting pro-choice is a fairly common position amongst that group.

Why is it not life? A child isn't an adult, but we don't let children be murdered because they are not adults yet. So why can't i say that a human fetus shouldn't be murdered simply because it's not a child yet? It's simply in a different stage of life, and I think all stages of life should be protected from death.

This isn't an abortion thread.
And the answer is that people who become atheists have a tendency to already be poorly disposed to Christian morality.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Why is it not life? A child isn't an adult, but we don't let children be murdered because they are not adults yet. So why can't i say that a human fetus shouldn't be murdered simply because it's not a child yet? It's simply in a different stage of life, and I think all stages of life should be protected from death.

This isn't an abortion thread.
And the answer is that people who become atheists have a tendency to already be poorly disposed to Christian morality.

I'm not sure where this new pattern of me tacitly agreeing with you came from...but I'll roll with it.

[Narxi]

First off this is not an abortion thread, I hope.

More relevantly, it seems a fair number of atheists left their churches because they didn't like Christian morality.

I don't see why being anti-abortion is a "religious" thing though. I came to the conclusion that abortion is bad based on my understanding of science, maybe I just haven't read the correct materials? Everybody's opinion on when life starts seems so arbitrary, so why do atheist cluster together and say that life does not start at conception and give another arbitrary point like 24 weeks or whatever.

[The Great Devourer of All]

Because it doesn't. A non-sentient clump of cells does not life make, at least not in the meaning used in the abortion debate. A fetus also isn't a child.

It's probably because Atheists tend to be pretty social liberal like LibLing said, and supporting pro-choice is a fairly common position amongst that group.

Why is it not life? A child isn't an adult, but we don't let children be murdered because they are not adults yet. So why can't i say that a human fetus shouldn't be murdered simply because it's not a child yet? It's simply in a different stage of life, and I think all stages of life should be protected from death.

It has no sapience. Non-sapient animals are not protected to the degree that sapient ones are, and fetuses are barely even animals until the last couple of months (by that, I mean that they do not have enough bodily systems to survive on their own yet). Dogs are allowed to be put down without their consent, and people don't get pissy about it.

[Galloism]

Because it doesn't. A non-sentient clump of cells does not life make, at least not in the meaning used in the abortion debate. A fetus also isn't a child.

It's probably because Atheists tend to be pretty social liberal like LibLing said, and supporting pro-choice is a fairly common position amongst that group.

Why is it not life? A child isn't an adult, but we don't let children be murdered because they are not adults yet. So why can't i say that a human fetus shouldn't be murdered simply because it's not a child yet? It's simply in a different stage of life, and I think all stages of life should be protected from death.

My sperm are alive. If they fail to impregnate a woman they die.

What are you doing to protect my sperm?

[The Great Devourer of All]

First off this is not an abortion thread, I hope.

More relevantly, it seems a fair number of atheists left their churches because they didn't like Christian morality.

I don't see why being anti-abortion is a "religious" thing though. I came to the conclusion that abortion is bad based on my understanding of science, maybe I just haven't read the correct materials? Everybody's opinion on when life starts seems so arbitrary, so why do atheist cluster together and say that life does not start at conception and give another arbitrary point like 24 weeks or whatever.

I'm gonna say this.

[Neutraligon]

Why is it not life? A child isn't an adult, but we don't let children be murdered because they are not adults yet. So why can't i say that a human fetus shouldn't be murdered simply because it's not a child yet? It's simply in a different stage of life, and I think all stages of life should be protected from death.

This isn't an abortion thread.
And the answer is that people who become atheists have a tendency to already be poorly disposed to Christian morality.

Incorrect. Many are highly disposed to Christian morality...Christian morality (the actual morals) and belief in a god are entirely unconnected. Many atheists where once very serious Christians, some even ministers. Many atheists are atheists not because of any moral system, but because they can find no evidence that a god exists.

[The Great Devourer of All]

The way you said it sorta made it sound like athiests don't have morals.

Did I say that atheists didn't have morals? How did I structure the sentence in a manner which made you presume that I implied atheists didn't have morals?

I am sure atheists have morals. They just don't necessarily share Christian morals, particularly like anti-abortion.

Never mind.

[The Great Devourer of All]

Why is it not life? A child isn't an adult, but we don't let children be murdered because they are not adults yet. So why can't i say that a human fetus shouldn't be murdered simply because it's not a child yet? It's simply in a different stage of life, and I think all stages of life should be protected from death.

My sperm are alive. If they fail to impregnate a woman they die.

What are you doing to protect my sperm?

Breaking News: Congress pushing for compulsory impregnation!

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Why is it not life? A child isn't an adult, but we don't let children be murdered because they are not adults yet. So why can't i say that a human fetus shouldn't be murdered simply because it's not a child yet? It's simply in a different stage of life, and I think all stages of life should be protected from death.

My sperm are alive. If they fail to impregnate a woman they die.

What are you doing to protect my sperm?

We will take every sperm of yours and shoot it at as many eggs as we can get. None will die!
Oh and masturbation, non-reproductive sex, anything that doesn't help them get to their One True Destination are all banned. You will be charged with murder if you do any of the banned activities.