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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:53 pm
by Arumdaum
......

I don't consider North Korea socialistic....

I don't know about the Albanian guy, but you are right that the Soviet Union eventually became capitalist (if it was not already) and China.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:53 pm
by Izistan
greed and death wrote:Well I just got back from a trip to Albania.
I asked about Enver Hoxha, and the local population tried to lynch me.
I think that says enough about him.


Explain please.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:53 pm
by Ryadn
Hydesland wrote:
Izistan wrote:According to western sources. The same sources that would have you believe the DRPK is a dictatorship.


....


Never again shall we likely be in such utter agreement.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:55 pm
by Third Spanish States
Izistan wrote:The future that will be avoided come 2012 and the establishment of a APL administration.



You can't avoid it. Build a bunker while you can.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:55 pm
by Arumdaum
Hydesland wrote:Albania under Hoxha was absolutely dreadful.

Agreed.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:56 pm
by Izistan
Arumdaum wrote:
Hydesland wrote:Albania under Hoxha was absolutely dreadful.

Agreed.


Revisionism will get you nowhere comrade.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:57 pm
by Arumdaum
Izistan wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:
Hydesland wrote:Albania under Hoxha was absolutely dreadful.

Agreed.


Revisionism will get you nowhere comrade.

?

What?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:57 pm
by Conserative Morality
Vittos Ordination wrote:Logo fail.

Capitalism is a brutal system of slavery and murder. Billions of workers all over the world are exploited, murdered, tortured and oppressed by capitalism and its allies. Humanity’s survival rests on the shoulders of the workers of the world. We look to the salvation of all peoples to the revolutionary working class. To achieve socialism we must build class warfare and fight tirelessly for revolution, jobs, health care and equality for women, minorities, LGBTS and all peoples in our nation regardless of race or national origin. Together we must fight the anti-communist propaganda and lies which seek to smear communism as “evil” and “worse than Nazism” by shameless fabrication. We are beginning a new millennium—one that faces new challenges but with the same imperialists in power. In this new era it is up to a new generation of communists to reestablish the power of the workers in the world, united by a common cause—the fight to abolish capitalism forever. Upon the victory of the socialist revolution, THE AMERICAN PARTY OF LABOR proposes to accomplish the following tasks immediately or within a reasonable time frame:




1. Establish socialism through the Dictatorship of the Proletariat.

2. Through the Dictatorship of the Proletariat, the working class will confiscate all the means of production and the principal means of circulation and distribution of commodities: banks, reserves, factories, etc.

3. Establish agricultural and workers' cooperatives and forms of social and collective property in accord with the Dictatorship of the Proletariat.

4. Establish a centrally-planned economy working on the Marxist principle "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his need."

5. Establish a Dictatorship of the Proletariat based on a workers’ government. The democratic life of the nation will be based on proletarian democracy, which will consist in participation of economic, political and social life by the working class, farmers, youth, women, immigrants, veterans, etc. The Amerindian communities and nations will have these same rights, as well as their autonomy (use of their language, respect of their traditions, culture, customs, respect of their political and administrative organizations, etc.) They will have the right to self-determination.

6. Public and collective ownership will be introduced over all American land, soil, airspace, minerals and resources etc. Private ownership of American resources, both foreign and domestic, will be abolished.

7. An international policy will be observed subject to the principles of proletarian internationalism. The socialist state will be a bastion for the world socialist revolution.


I sense large doses of Poe.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:57 pm
by Greed and Death
Izistan wrote:
greed and death wrote:Well I just got back from a trip to Albania.
I asked about Enver Hoxha, and the local population tried to lynch me.
I think that says enough about him.


Explain please.

Upon asking their opinions of Enver Hoxha a pitch fork was pointed at me, and I was lead to tree and a rope was tied around my neck. And they were about to string me up until a group of German soldiers on a NATO field training exercise happened by.
They had to buy my life from the Albanians for 3 whole cases of German beer.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:58 pm
by Izistan
greed and death wrote:
Izistan wrote:
greed and death wrote:Well I just got back from a trip to Albania.
I asked about Enver Hoxha, and the local population tried to lynch me.
I think that says enough about him.


Explain please.

Upon asking their opinions of Enver Hoxha a pitch fork was pointed at me, and I was lead to tree and a rope was tied around my neck. And they were about to string me up until a group of German soldiers on a NATO field training exercise happened by.
They had to buy my life from the Albanians for 3 whole cases of German beer.


:roll:

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:59 pm
by Lackadaisical2
Izistan wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Hydesland wrote:Albania under Hoxha was absolutely dreadful.

The fact that OP likes Juche seems to indicate that our "horrible' is a synonym for 'great' to him.


The fact that your immature view of politics and Juche are typical of this generation raises serious questions about the future.

The future that will be avoided come 2012 and the establishment of a APL administration.

You're fun. Keep trolling NSG.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:59 pm
by Avenio
Izistan wrote:
Avenio wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
Izistan wrote:First of all, the SLP is dead and De Leonist. Second:
http://www.americanpartyoflabor.org/

That site is the only reference to the 'American Party of Labor' that I can find. I think it might be a fake.


I think you're right. Even RevLeft thinks it's fake;

http://www.revleft.com/vb/american-party-labor-t119934/index.html?s=275b7020ad2093122a89534d48dfa021&


Revleft says no such thing if you read the thread.


But they have little to no faith in their success, either. From what they've said, it remains a relatively small party, with an insignificant support base. Therefore, I highly doubt your claims of celebrity endorsement.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:00 pm
by Izistan
The Albanians are a gentle and peace loving people and would never harm outsiders. Only serbs.

I am not a troll.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:01 pm
by Izistan
Therefore, I highly doubt your claims of celebrity endorsement.


Wait six months.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:01 pm
by Arumdaum
Izistan wrote:The Albanians are a gentle and peace loving people and would never harm outsiders. Only serbs.

I am not a troll.

.....

You're being stereotypical to Albanians.....

They wouldn't all try to hurt Serbs.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:01 pm
by Conserative Morality
Izistan wrote: :roll:

GaD never lies! He's actually a world-class millionaire Texan with a taste for crazy women and Korea. He regularly travels to odd locals to ask mundane (And sometimes dangerous) questions from his private jet. It's his hobby.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:01 pm
by Lackadaisical2
Izistan wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
Izistan wrote:First of all, the SLP is dead and De Leonist. Second:
http://www.americanpartyoflabor.org/

That site is the only reference to the 'American Party of Labor' that I can find. I think it might be a fake.


Thats because we have yet to fully launch. Hence six months.

I can't read that site... I looked at the first couple words on the page and started laughing too hard.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:04 pm
by Izistan
Arumdaum wrote:
Izistan wrote:The Albanians are a gentle and peace loving people and would never harm outsiders. Only serbs.

I am not a troll.

.....

You're being stereotypical to Albanians.....

They wouldn't all try to hurt Serbs.


Ask Stoklomolvi.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:04 pm
by Third Spanish States
Conserative Morality wrote:
Capitalism is a brutal system of slavery and murder. Billions of workers all over the world are exploited, murdered, tortured and oppressed by capitalism and its allies. Humanity’s survival rests on the shoulders of the workers of the world. We look to the salvation of all peoples to the revolutionary working class. To achieve socialism we must build class warfare and fight tirelessly for revolution, jobs, health care and equality for women, minorities, LGBTS and all peoples in our nation regardless of race or national origin. Together we must fight the anti-communist propaganda and lies which seek to smear communism as “evil” and “worse than Nazism” by shameless fabrication. We are beginning a new millennium—one that faces new challenges but with the same imperialists in power. In this new era it is up to a new generation of communists to reestablish the power of the workers in the world, united by a common cause—the fight to abolish capitalism forever. Upon the victory of the socialist revolution, THE AMERICAN PARTY OF LABOR proposes to accomplish the following tasks immediately or within a reasonable time frame:




1. Establish socialism through Police State.

2. Through the Police State, the Party Members will confiscate all the means of production and the principal means of circulation and distribution of commodities: banks, reserves, factories, human freedom etc.

3. Establish Gulags and Concentration Camps and forms of tyranny in accord with the Police State.

4. Establish a totalitarian economy working on the Marxist principle "From each slave according to his abilities, to the government according to its needs."

5. Establish a tyranny based on a Party government. The disguise for tyranny will be based on democracy with frauds, which will consist in no freedom for the working class, farmers, youth, women, immigrants, veterans, etc. The Amerindian communities and nations will have these same duties, as well as their autonomy (use of their language inside the Gulags, respect of their traditions as long as they keep the Party happy.) They will have the right to choose the color of their chains.

6. Government ownership will be introduced over all American land, soil, airspace, minerals and resources etc. Private ownership of American resources, both foreign and domestic, will be abolished by firing squad and secret police.

7. An international policy will be observed subject to the principles of creating Oceania. AMESOC will be a bastion for the world socialist revolution.


Fixed

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:05 pm
by Arumdaum
Izistan wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:
Izistan wrote:The Albanians are a gentle and peace loving people and would never harm outsiders. Only serbs.

I am not a troll.

.....

You're being stereotypical to Albanians.....

They wouldn't all try to hurt Serbs.


Ask Stoklomolvi.

?

I'm on an online chat with Stok right now.

Anyways, thinking that is racist. Stok probably wouldn't think that.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:06 pm
by Izistan
Third Spanish States is a well known far-right activist so his attempts at humor can only be expected.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:07 pm
by Conserative Morality
Third Spanish States wrote:Fixed

Very well done sir. :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:08 pm
by Izistan
Arumdaum wrote:
Izistan wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:
Izistan wrote:The Albanians are a gentle and peace loving people and would never harm outsiders. Only serbs.

I am not a troll.

.....

You're being stereotypical to Albanians.....

They wouldn't all try to hurt Serbs.


Ask Stoklomolvi.

?

I'm on an online chat with Stok right now.

Anyways, thinking that is racist. Stok probably wouldn't think that.


His serbian friend was lynched in Kosovo...

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:12 pm
by Arumdaum
Izistan wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:
Izistan wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:
Izistan wrote:The Albanians are a gentle and peace loving people and would never harm outsiders. Only serbs.

I am not a troll.

.....

You're being stereotypical to Albanians.....

They wouldn't all try to hurt Serbs.


Ask Stoklomolvi.

?

I'm on an online chat with Stok right now.

Anyways, thinking that is racist. Stok probably wouldn't think that.


His serbian friend was lynched in Kosovo...

:(

...............

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:13 pm
by Avenio
Izistan wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:
Izistan wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:
Izistan wrote:The Albanians are a gentle and peace loving people and would never harm outsiders. Only serbs.

I am not a troll.

.....

You're being stereotypical to Albanians.....

They wouldn't all try to hurt Serbs.


Ask Stoklomolvi.

?

I'm on an online chat with Stok right now.

Anyways, thinking that is racist. Stok probably wouldn't think that.


His serbian friend was lynched in Kosovo...


That doesn't prove all Albanians hate Serbs. There's an ideologically charged minority in any given population that will do anything to further their goals.