
by Kalakda » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:08 pm

by Dyakovo » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:12 pm
Kalakda wrote:Why isn't the President of the United States standing up against the dictatorship of Iran for its human rights abuses? Is he afraid that Iran might retaliate against him, or something? I mean, I respect that, for Iran has the potential to launch an offensive against the troops in Iraq or Afghanistan, close the Strait of Hormuz, stop the flow of oil to the United States (Much like how the Arab World did during the 1979 oil crisis), or worse yet, send terrorists to attack American soil. But, if that means standing for the plight of the Iranian people, then it would be worth the risk. So, NSG, should Obama stand for the Iranian people's struggle against the oppressive theocracy in Iran, and express outrage at the fact that the Iranian government is trying to stamp out the protesters, and try to put pressure against Iran, its human rights abuses, and its nuclear project, instead of placing sanctions that have no effect against Iran?

by Greed and Death » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:12 pm

by Conserative Morality » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:13 pm
Dyakovo wrote:Why should Iran's internal affairs be the concern of the U.S.?

by Kalakda » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:14 pm

by The Parkus Empire » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:14 pm

by Angleter » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:14 pm

by Dyakovo » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:14 pm


by Dyakovo » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:16 pm
Kalakda wrote:Because it is a totalitarian state, that's why
Kalakda wrote:and there's many people around the world horrified by Iran and its atrocities.

by The Parkus Empire » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:16 pm

by Kalakda » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:16 pm

by Gift-of-god » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:16 pm

by Dyakovo » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:17 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:I beat you to the reference.

by The Parkus Empire » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:17 pm

by Kalakda » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:18 pm

by Conserative Morality » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:18 pm
Gift-of-god wrote:In the real world, the people who put together US foreign policy ask themselves one question:
What's in it for wealthy USians?
(They probably word it differently.)

by The Parkus Empire » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:18 pm

by Lord Tothe » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:20 pm
Dyakovo wrote:Kalakda wrote:Why isn't the President of the United States standing up against the dictatorship of Iran for its human rights abuses? Is he afraid that Iran might retaliate against him, or something? I mean, I respect that, for Iran has the potential to launch an offensive against the troops in Iraq or Afghanistan, close the Strait of Hormuz, stop the flow of oil to the United States (Much like how the Arab World did during the 1979 oil crisis), or worse yet, send terrorists to attack American soil. But, if that means standing for the plight of the Iranian people, then it would be worth the risk. So, NSG, should Obama stand for the Iranian people's struggle against the oppressive theocracy in Iran, and express outrage at the fact that the Iranian government is trying to stamp out the protesters, and try to put pressure against Iran, its human rights abuses, and its nuclear project, instead of placing sanctions that have no effect against Iran?
Why should Iran's internal affairs be the concern of the U.S.?
"Why is self-control, autonomy, such a threat to authority? Because the person who controls himself, who is his own master, has no need for an authority to be his master. This, then, renders authority unemployed. What is he to do if he cannot control others? To be sure, he could mind his own business. But that is a fatuous answer, for those who are satisfied to mind their own business do not aspire to become authorities." ~ Thomas SzaszThe Empire of Pretantia wrote:[...] TLDR; welcome to the internet. Bicker or GTFO.

by The Parkus Empire » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:21 pm
Kalakda wrote:Well, because Iran is an oppressive theocracy that stones women simply for being with men they aren't married to. But maybe we wouldn't have such a noose around our necks if we drilled for domestic oil.

by Kalakda » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:21 pm

by Crabulonia » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:22 pm

by The Parkus Empire » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:22 pm

by OMGeverynameistaken » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:22 pm

by Conserative Morality » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:22 pm
Lord Tothe wrote:^ This. Time for an non-interventionist foreign policy. Let's see Obama earn that peace Prize he got by at least not starting more wars.

by Kalakda » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:23 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Kalakda wrote:Well, because Iran is an oppressive theocracy that stones women simply for being with men they aren't married to. But maybe we wouldn't have such a noose around our necks if we drilled for domestic oil.
We're already in two fucking wars that require us to spend more money on the military than the rest of the world combined does.
I'm sure that if Iranians organized a rebellion, we'd fund them, but let's not try to pull another Vietnam, here, where we want to save a people more than they want to be saved.
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