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Jetan
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Postby Jetan » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:54 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Jetan wrote:That area you are referring to has a common name. The Nordic Countries.


Well, this one actually happens to be a pet peeve of mine, but it's even generally speaking very tiring seeing people putting in so little effort they don't even bother to use the correct terminology.


Weird pet-peeve. But I'm of a very different sorts than people with such obligations. I find them meaningless and exhausting. As far as the "correct" terminology, that's dubious at best if we're going by the links posted already. Going by your signature, it makes more sense why you see an issue with this. The fact of the matter is, just as is the case with me, you're not going to find many people who really care. It's long been included in Scandinavia, or associated in it as "Fennoscandia" or Finno-Scandinavia, for varying reasons, so unless the world suddenly decides that Finland isn't apart of Scandinavia, it's not worth the exhausting frustration.

Pet peeves often are. As for the rest, well, Scandinavia and Fennoscandia aren't the same thing either. Finland is part of Fennoscandia.

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Jetan wrote:The extended use is useless though, since it's inaccurate.


Quite. It's also funny seeing someone from the other side of the world trying to lecture people who actually live in those countries about "proper" geography. Not to mention ridiculous.

Finland is indeed Nordic Country, not Scandinavian.

Exactly.
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Postby Kannap » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:54 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Jetan wrote:The extended use is useless though, since it's inaccurate.


Quite. It's also funny seeing someone from the other side of the world trying to lecture people who actually live in those countries about "proper" geography. Not to mention ridiculous.

Finland is indeed Nordic Country, not Scandinavian.


I wouldn't call it a lecture on "proper" geography but rather perhaps a different look at geography according to different locations. How geography is taught in my area is very much different from how geography is taught in Sweden or England or China, etc. Quite similar to how some nations teach their children that there are only 5 continents or 6 continents, rather than the seven continents that I was taught about. Just differences on how stuff is taught where.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:55 pm

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Postby Kannap » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:55 pm

Immoren wrote:So how are the things currently in Confederate States of America?


I am now envisioning all the textbooks in Finland being from 1864. Excellent fantasy.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:55 pm

Jetan wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Weird pet-peeve. But I'm of a very different sorts than people with such obligations. I find them meaningless and exhausting. As far as the "correct" terminology, that's dubious at best if we're going by the links posted already. Going by your signature, it makes more sense why you see an issue with this. The fact of the matter is, just as is the case with me, you're not going to find many people who really care. It's long been included in Scandinavia, or associated in it as "Fennoscandia" or Finno-Scandinavia, for varying reasons, so unless the world suddenly decides that Finland isn't apart of Scandinavia, it's not worth the exhausting frustration.

Pet peeves often are. As for the rest, well, Scandinavia and Fennoscandia aren't the same thing either. Finland is part of Fennoscandia.


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Esternial
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Postby Esternial » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:56 pm

Kannap wrote:
Jetan wrote:The extended use is useless though, since it's inaccurate.


Living in America, the extended use is the only usage I have ever heard until now, thus I will keep using it as such. Allows for more land to be lumped into one area of Europe. My friends know exactly what I mean when I say Scandinavia, or Britain, or the Baltics, or the Balkans, etc.

'Murica and generalisations.

Hmm, I suppose this is also a generalisation.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:56 pm

Kannap wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Quite. It's also funny seeing someone from the other side of the world trying to lecture people who actually live in those countries about "proper" geography. Not to mention ridiculous.

Finland is indeed Nordic Country, not Scandinavian.


I wouldn't call it a lecture on "proper" geography but rather perhaps a different look at geography according to different locations. How geography is taught in my area is very much different from how geography is taught in Sweden or England or China, etc. Quite similar to how some nations teach their children that there are only 5 continents or 6 continents, rather than the seven continents that I was taught about. Just differences on how stuff is taught where.


It's not difference, at all. It's plain wrong.
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Postby Kannap » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:57 pm

Esternial wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Living in America, the extended use is the only usage I have ever heard until now, thus I will keep using it as such. Allows for more land to be lumped into one area of Europe. My friends know exactly what I mean when I say Scandinavia, or Britain, or the Baltics, or the Balkans, etc.

'Murica and generalisations.

Hmm, I suppose this is also a generalisation.


You know what this calls for?

A Generalizations Should Be Banned thread. Somebody call up IM.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:58 pm

Kannap wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Quite. It's also funny seeing someone from the other side of the world trying to lecture people who actually live in those countries about "proper" geography. Not to mention ridiculous.

Finland is indeed Nordic Country, not Scandinavian.


I wouldn't call it a lecture on "proper" geography but rather perhaps a different look at geography according to different locations. How geography is taught in my area is very much different from how geography is taught in Sweden or England or China, etc. Quite similar to how some nations teach their children that there are only 5 continents or 6 continents, rather than the seven continents that I was taught about. Just differences on how stuff is taught where.


Jetan is technically correct as far as FInland's actual status. It's a very common misconception, and I'm sure none of us here have the resources to make much of a change to remove said misconception.

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Postby Kannap » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:58 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I wouldn't call it a lecture on "proper" geography but rather perhaps a different look at geography according to different locations. How geography is taught in my area is very much different from how geography is taught in Sweden or England or China, etc. Quite similar to how some nations teach their children that there are only 5 continents or 6 continents, rather than the seven continents that I was taught about. Just differences on how stuff is taught where.


It's not difference, at all. It's plain wrong.


Feel free to write a strongly worded letter to the Superintendent of North Carolina. June Atkinson, nice lady, does the job well enough.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:59 pm

Esternial wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Living in America, the extended use is the only usage I have ever heard until now, thus I will keep using it as such. Allows for more land to be lumped into one area of Europe. My friends know exactly what I mean when I say Scandinavia, or Britain, or the Baltics, or the Balkans, etc.

'Murica and generalisations.

Hmm, I suppose this is also a generalisation.


Jesus yes, I was taught the difference if 5th grade.
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Esternial
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Postby Esternial » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:00 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Jetan wrote:The extended use is useless though, since it's inaccurate.


Quite. It's also funny seeing someone from the other side of the world trying to lecture people who actually live in those countries about "proper" geography. Not to mention ridiculous.

Finland is indeed Nordic Country, not Scandinavian.

Though to be honest living there doesn't automatically guarantee you know all about it.

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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:00 pm

Kannap wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It's not difference, at all. It's plain wrong.


Feel free to write a strongly worded letter to the Superintendent of North Carolina.


I'll settle with you shutting up about your bad education. Can we do that? Good.
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Postby Kannap » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:05 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Feel free to write a strongly worded letter to the Superintendent of North Carolina.


I'll settle with you shutting up about your bad education. Can we do that? Good.


How about not criticizing my intelligence because of the education opportunities that I was privileged to have, regardless of whether or not they were limiting.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:06 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Kannap wrote:
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The extended usage in English: Iceland and the Faroe Islands on account of their populations being largely descended from Scandinavians, the Åland Islands for its ethnic Swedish population, Finland on account of its historical association with Sweden and its Swedish minority.



Seroously, you are arguing with a Finn and a swede on the definition of Scandinavia?

:rofl:

It be like arguing with a Michigan resident and an Buckeye over is Toledo in Michigan or Ohio.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:07 pm

Kannap wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I'll settle with you shutting up about your bad education. Can we do that? Good.


How about not criticizing my intelligence because of the education opportunities that I was privileged to have, regardless of whether or not they were limiting.


How 'bout you both pipe it before I find my gags. Not worth the Moderation intervention, hurt feelings, and tension.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:07 pm

I was going to post in the new prostitution thread, but it was locked. :/
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:08 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I was going to post in the new prostitution thread, but it was locked. :/


Now where will I advertise?
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:08 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I was going to post in the new prostitution thread, but it was locked. :/


Now where will I advertise?


Points to the corner

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:08 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I was going to post in the new prostitution thread, but it was locked. :/


Now where will I advertise?


Not Craigslist. :p
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:09 pm

Kannap wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It's not difference, at all. It's plain wrong.


Feel free to write a strongly worded letter to the Superintendent of North Carolina. June Atkinson, nice lady, does the job well enough.


Obviously not. Oh got really you know the definition better than the people who live with the definition, everyday?

:rofl:
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:10 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Kannap wrote:
How about not criticizing my intelligence because of the education opportunities that I was privileged to have, regardless of whether or not they were limiting.


How 'bout you both pipe it before I find my gags. Not worth the Moderation intervention, hurt feelings, and tension.

Yeah, best yet there's so many types. The cleave, ball, muzzle, funnel so on and so forth.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:10 pm

Esternial wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Quite. It's also funny seeing someone from the other side of the world trying to lecture people who actually live in those countries about "proper" geography. Not to mention ridiculous.

Finland is indeed Nordic Country, not Scandinavian.

Though to be honest living there doesn't automatically guarantee you know all about it.


It does improve the odds.
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:11 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
How 'bout you both pipe it before I find my gags. Not worth the Moderation intervention, hurt feelings, and tension.

Yeah, best yet there's so many types. The cleave, ball, muzzle, funnel so on and so forth.


Make-shift ones are fun too, but that exceeds PG-13 :p

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Postby Kannap » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:12 pm

Well, I can clearly see that I am unwanted here because apparently the bigger brains of intelligent people have marked me inferior because my lack of knowledge about things. Okay, fine.
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