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Postby Kannap » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:18 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:
Kannap wrote:Starting to think Serb knows nothing of modern Scandinavia *nods*


Psst. Finland's not part of Scandinavia.


Any map I've ever seen of Scandinavia marks five nations within Scandinavia: Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, and Iceland.

Besides, this official authority on the matter also declares all five aforementioned nations as Scandinavia
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Postby Jetan » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:21 pm

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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:24 pm

Kannap wrote:
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Psst. Finland's not part of Scandinavia.


Any map I've ever seen of Scandinavia marks five nations within Scandinavia: Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, and Iceland.

Besides, this official authority on the matter also declares all five aforementioned nations as Scandinavia


I hate that comic so very very much.

Also, Scandinavia is a geographic region based on shared cultural heritage. Notice how Swedish, Danish and Norwegian sound similar and Finnish doesn't at all?
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:26 pm

Immoren wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia#Finland


Yep. Why I prefer the term Nordic Countries.
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Postby Kannap » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:27 pm

Immoren wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia#Finland


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The extended usage in English: Iceland and the Faroe Islands on account of their populations being largely descended from Scandinavians, the Åland Islands for its ethnic Swedish population, Finland on account of its historical association with Sweden and its Swedish minority.
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Postby Jetan » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:28 pm

Kannap wrote:
Immoren wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia#Finland


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The extended usage in English: Iceland and the Faroe Islands on account of their populations being largely descended from Scandinavians, the Åland Islands for its ethnic Swedish population, Finland on account of its historical association with Sweden and its Swedish minority.

The extended use is useless though, since it's inaccurate.
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Postby Kannap » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:30 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Any map I've ever seen of Scandinavia marks five nations within Scandinavia: Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, and Iceland.

Besides, this official authority on the matter also declares all five aforementioned nations as Scandinavia


I hate that comic so very very much.

Also, Scandinavia is a geographic region based on shared cultural heritage. Notice how Swedish, Danish and Norwegian sound similar and Finnish doesn't at all?


As an American wish Scottish ancestry, I don't notice how Swedish, Danish, and Norwegian sound alike by Finnish doesn't. I just know that in English - at least in America, though my friends in the UK and Canada assure me the same meaning is held there - the term Scandinavia refers to Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, and Iceland.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:31 pm

Kannap wrote:As an American wish Scottish ancestry, I don't notice how Swedish, Danish, and Norwegian sound alike by Finnish doesn't. I just know that in English - at least in America, though my friends in the UK and Canada assure me the same meaning is held there - the term Scandinavia refers to Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, and Iceland.


Notice how none of those live here? They might not be perfect authorities to draw on about it.
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Postby Kannap » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:33 pm

Jetan wrote:
Kannap wrote:
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The extended usage in English: Iceland and the Faroe Islands on account of their populations being largely descended from Scandinavians, the Åland Islands for its ethnic Swedish population, Finland on account of its historical association with Sweden and its Swedish minority.

The extended use is useless though, since it's inaccurate.


Living in America, the extended use is the only usage I have ever heard until now, thus I will keep using it as such. Allows for more land to be lumped into one area of Europe. My friends know exactly what I mean when I say Scandinavia, or Britain, or the Baltics, or the Balkans, etc.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:33 pm

Jetan wrote:
Kannap wrote:
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The extended usage in English: Iceland and the Faroe Islands on account of their populations being largely descended from Scandinavians, the Åland Islands for its ethnic Swedish population, Finland on account of its historical association with Sweden and its Swedish minority.

The extended use is useless though, since it's inaccurate.


I don't see why it particularly matters unless you've some weird attachment to the whole thing.

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Postby Jetan » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:36 pm

Kannap wrote:
Jetan wrote:The extended use is useless though, since it's inaccurate.


Living in America, the extended use is the only usage I have ever heard until now, thus I will keep using it as such. Allows for more land to be lumped into one area of Europe. My friends know exactly what I mean when I say Scandinavia, or Britain, or the Baltics, or the Balkans, etc.

That area you are referring to has a common name. The Nordic Countries.

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Jetan wrote:The extended use is useless though, since it's inaccurate.


I don't see why it particularly matters unless you've some weird attachment to the whole thing.

Well, this one actually happens to be a pet peeve of mine, but it's even generally speaking very tiring seeing people putting in so little effort they don't even bother to use the correct terminology.
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Kannap
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Postby Kannap » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:36 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:
Kannap wrote:As an American wish Scottish ancestry, I don't notice how Swedish, Danish, and Norwegian sound alike by Finnish doesn't. I just know that in English - at least in America, though my friends in the UK and Canada assure me the same meaning is held there - the term Scandinavia refers to Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, and Iceland.


Notice how none of those live here? They might not be perfect authorities to draw on about it.


But, living in southern America, I use the term meaning it as any southern American would. I don't encounter Swedes or Finns when walking down the road in western North Carolina, so I don't use the term "Scandinavia" as a Swede or a Finn would, I use the term "Scandinavia" as a western North Carolinian would, which represents five countries instead of three.

It's all a matter of where one lives, I suppose. While we may not be accurate or correct by Swedish or Finnish standards, my terminology is correct by Southern U.S. standards, which is where I live. If I included Finland and Iceland in as Scandinavian on a geography exam, I'd be marked correct, and that's good enough for me to get by in life.
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Postby Kannap » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:38 pm

Jetan wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Living in America, the extended use is the only usage I have ever heard until now, thus I will keep using it as such. Allows for more land to be lumped into one area of Europe. My friends know exactly what I mean when I say Scandinavia, or Britain, or the Baltics, or the Balkans, etc.

That area you are referring to has a common name. The Nordic Countries.


Where I live, the common name taught for that region is Scandinavia.

I've never heard the region referred to as the Nordic Countries.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:40 pm

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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:42 pm

Jetan wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Living in America, the extended use is the only usage I have ever heard until now, thus I will keep using it as such. Allows for more land to be lumped into one area of Europe. My friends know exactly what I mean when I say Scandinavia, or Britain, or the Baltics, or the Balkans, etc.

That area you are referring to has a common name. The Nordic Countries.

Lady Scylla wrote:
I don't see why it particularly matters unless you've some weird attachment to the whole thing.

Well, this one actually happens to be a pet peeve of mine, but it's even generally speaking very tiring seeing people putting in so little effort they don't even bother to use the correct terminology.


Weird pet-peeve. But I'm of a very different sorts than people with such obligations. I find them meaningless and exhausting. As far as the "correct" terminology, that's dubious at best if we're going by the links posted already. Going by your signature, it makes more sense why you see an issue with this. The fact of the matter is, just as is the case with me, you're not going to find many people who really care. It's long been included in Scandinavia, or associated in it as "Fennoscandia" or Finno-Scandinavia, for varying reasons, so unless the world suddenly decides that Finland isn't apart of Scandinavia, it's not worth the exhausting frustration.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:48 pm

Jetan wrote:
Kannap wrote:
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The extended usage in English: Iceland and the Faroe Islands on account of their populations being largely descended from Scandinavians, the Åland Islands for its ethnic Swedish population, Finland on account of its historical association with Sweden and its Swedish minority.

The extended use is useless though, since it's inaccurate.


Quite. It's also funny seeing someone from the other side of the world trying to lecture people who actually live in those countries about "proper" geography. Not to mention ridiculous.

Finland is indeed Nordic Country, not Scandinavian.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:51 pm

Kannap wrote:
Immoren wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia#Finland


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The extended usage in English: Iceland and the Faroe Islands on account of their populations being largely descended from Scandinavians, the Åland Islands for its ethnic Swedish population, Finland on account of its historical association with Sweden and its Swedish minority.



Seroously, you are arguing with a Finn and a swede on the definition of Scandinavia?

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Postby Immoren » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:51 pm

So how are the things currently in Confederate States of America?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:51 pm

Immoren wrote:So how are the things currently in Confederate States of America?


We report no lynchings as of yet. :p
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:52 pm

Kannap wrote:
Jetan wrote:That area you are referring to has a common name. The Nordic Countries.


Where I live, the common name taught for that region is Scandinavia.

I've never heard the region referred to as the Nordic Countries.


Kannap, every time you talk about what you learned in school, I am very pleased to be a product of the new york city school system.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:52 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Immoren wrote:So how are the things currently in Confederate States of America?


We report no lynchings as of yet. :p


But we're still awaiting the Trumpocalypse.

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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:53 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
We report no lynchings as of yet. :p


But we're still awaiting the Trumpocalypse.


I'm just displeased not to see his supporters call themselves the Trumpets.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:53 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
We report no lynchings as of yet. :p


But we're still awaiting the Trumpocalypse.


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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:54 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
But we're still awaiting the Trumpocalypse.


I'm just displeased not to see his supporters call themselves the Trumpets.


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