Personal Boycott of Hollywood Military Films

[Imperializt Russia]

"On the way" is a warning to all crew that the gun is firing.

The stabiliser was never accurate on the move. No tank had appreciable accuracy on the move until the 1980s. To the point that the Swedish S-103 main battle tank featured a turretless design with a completely fixed gun aimed by steering the tank and depressing/elevating its suspension, because the thinking was that a tank would have to come to a full stop to fire anyway.

[Alvecia]

Something like this could shut down a lot of media that is intentionally ahistoric that frames it as an account of history. Several of Paradox Interactive's games for example. Speculative fiction is another good example.
To avoid being overly restrictive, the ruling would have loopholes so big as to make it pointless.
"Reasonable degree" is also one of the most interpretable terms ever created.

Video games wouldn't be included. Only movies. Speculative fiction wouldn't be covered. Only movies based on historical accounts that are somehow entirely devoid of historical validity.

Why only movies based on historical accounts? Do you have some evidence to suggest other forms of media do not have the same negative effect you believe you are seeing?
You are being oddly specific.
Why leave out all other media that is based on historical accounts? I don't get it.

[The Two Jerseys]

Video games wouldn't be included. Only movies. Speculative fiction wouldn't be covered. Only movies based on historical accounts that are somehow entirely devoid of historical validity.

Why only movies based on historical accounts? Do you have some evidence to suggest other forms of media do not have the same negative effect you believe you are seeing?
You are being oddly specific.
Why leave out all other media that is based on historical accounts? I don't get it.

Just look at that miniseries about the Kennedys that the History Channel wouldn't show because too much of it was dramatized. If it was released in theaters it would have to be censored, but since it's a TV show it would get a free pass.

[Alvecia]

Why only movies based on historical accounts? Do you have some evidence to suggest other forms of media do not have the same negative effect you believe you are seeing?
You are being oddly specific.
Why leave out all other media that is based on historical accounts? I don't get it.

Just look at that miniseries about the Kennedys that the History Channel wouldn't show because too much of it was dramatized. If it was released in theaters it would have to be censored, but since it's a TV show it would get a free pass.

All you really had to do was mention the History Channel.

[The Two Jerseys]

Just look at that miniseries about the Kennedys that the History Channel wouldn't show because too much of it was dramatized. If it was released in theaters it would have to be censored, but since it's a TV show it would get a free pass.

All you really had to do was mention the History Channel.

Given the stuff they show anymore, it makes you wonder how inaccurate the Kennedys miniseries was that they felt the need to pass on it...

But you're right, why should we censor historical movies but not TV shows claiming that aliens built the Pyramids and that the Nazis used technology obtained from UFOs?

[Seraven]

I'm pretty sure the other war movie that is not America-made are fairly good. Though it's far and between to the American audiences.

Battle of Britain is one fine example. Actors mostly came from British Isles, all are great actors.

[Novorden]

I'm pretty sure the other war movie that is not America-made are fairly good. Though it's far and between to the American audiences.

Battle of Britain is one fine example. Actors mostly came from British Isles, all are great actors.

Repeat please

[Napkiraly]

I'm pretty sure the other war movie that is not America-made are fairly good. Though it's far and between to the American audiences.

Battle of Britain is one fine example. Actors mostly came from British Isles, all are great actors.

Repeat please

Polan can not into space, but it can into aces in exile that'll echo through history.

[Vassenor]

I'm pretty sure the other war movie that is not America-made are fairly good. Though it's far and between to the American audiences.

Battle of Britain is one fine example. Actors mostly came from British Isles, all are great actors.

Notable exceptions being Christopher Plummer (Canadian actor playing an RCAF pilot) and all of the Germans.

[Zeinbrad]

I'm pretty sure the other war movie that is not America-made are fairly good. Though it's far and between to the American audiences.

Battle of Britain is one fine example. Actors mostly came from British Isles, all are great actors.

Repeat please

Please tell me this is based off an actual thing Polish pilots did.

[Napkiraly]

I'm pretty sure the other war movie that is not America-made are fairly good. Though it's far and between to the American audiences.

Battle of Britain is one fine example. Actors mostly came from British Isles, all are great actors.

Notable exceptions being Christopher Plummer (Canadian actor playing an RCAF pilot) and all of the Germans.

It's actually pretty nice, because iirc Plummer requested that his character be an RCAF pilot.

[Napkiraly]

Repeat please

Please tell me this is based off an actual thing Polish pilots did.

Not that I'm aware. Though the 303rd did have its first kill while still non-operational and during a training flight iirc.

[Vassenor]

Notable exceptions being Christopher Plummer (Canadian actor playing an RCAF pilot) and all of the Germans.

It's actually pretty nice, because iirc Plummer requested that his character be an RCAF pilot.

Indeed, which is why the only evidence for it is the patches on his uniform rather than anything in the dialogue, because it all came up too late to add anything more substantive.

[Napkiraly]

It's actually pretty nice, because iirc Plummer requested that his character be an RCAF pilot.

Indeed, which is why the only evidence for it is the patches on his uniform rather than anything in the dialogue, because it all came up too late to add anything more substantive.

He could have always just tossed in one eh, eh.

[British Prussia]

I'm pretty sure the other war movie that is not America-made are fairly good. Though it's far and between to the American audiences.

Battle of Britain is one fine example. Actors mostly came from British Isles, all are great actors.

A Bridge Too Far is another really good one. Historically accurate apart from one of the German tanks. They may have been going for a Panther tank, but used a post-war Leopard.

[Vassenor]

I'm pretty sure the other war movie that is not America-made are fairly good. Though it's far and between to the American audiences.

Battle of Britain is one fine example. Actors mostly came from British Isles, all are great actors.

A Bridge Too Far is another really good one. Historically accurate apart from one of the German tanks. They may have been going for a Panther tank, but used a post-war Leopard.

And all of the German planes in BoB were either actually Spanish or models. There's not a lot of genuine WWII German kit knocking around any more for obvious reasons.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I'm pretty sure the other war movie that is not America-made are fairly good. Though it's far and between to the American audiences.

Battle of Britain is one fine example. Actors mostly came from British Isles, all are great actors.

A Bridge Too Far is another really good one. Historically accurate apart from one of the German tanks. They may have been going for a Panther tank, but used a post-war Leopard.

Yeah that happens a lot with war movies, espcially from the 60s and 70s from what ive seen, most likely just comes down to a lack of materials for a good mockup. Especially when it comes to German vehicles. Soviet ones, its probably pretty easy to get some of the models actually used as they had a massive surplus of them.

It was very noticeable In the Battle of the Bulge they used m24 chaffee tanks to play Shermans and Pattons to play Tiger II's

[Napkiraly]

A Bridge Too Far is another really good one. Historically accurate apart from one of the German tanks. They may have been going for a Panther tank, but used a post-war Leopard.

Yeah that happens a lot with war movies, espcially from the 60s and 70s from what ive seen, most likely just comes down to a lack of materials for a good mockup. Especially when it comes to German vehicles. Soviet ones, its probably pretty easy to get some of the models actually used as they had a massive surplus of them.

It was very noticeable In the Battle of the Bulge they used m24 chaffee tanks to play Shermans and Pattons to play Tiger II's

Or Bf 108's to stand in as Bf 109's in a number of films.

[British Prussia]

A Bridge Too Far is another really good one. Historically accurate apart from one of the German tanks. They may have been going for a Panther tank, but used a post-war Leopard.

And all of the German planes in BoB were either actually Spanish or models. There's not a lot of genuine WWII German kit knocking around any more for obvious reasons.

I'm quite sure they were Spanish (and Swiss?) Messerschmitts though, so they were essentially the same. Whereas with the tank, a PzIV or Panther tank is completely different to the more advanced post-war Leopard.

[British Prussia]

A Bridge Too Far is another really good one. Historically accurate apart from one of the German tanks. They may have been going for a Panther tank, but used a post-war Leopard.

Yeah that happens a lot with war movies, espcially from the 60s and 70s from what ive seen, most likely just comes down to a lack of materials for a good mockup. Especially when it comes to German vehicles. Soviet ones, its probably pretty easy to get some of the models actually used as they had a massive surplus of them.

It was very noticeable In the Battle of the Bulge they used m24 chaffee tanks to play Shermans and Pattons to play Tiger II's

In A Bridge Too Far they did manage to get Shermans and even Sherman Fireflies (well, some looked like them). But yeah it is to be expected. Especially if you want to see a Tiger tank. At least Fury got the real stuff.

Hogan's Hero's Tiger was an M3 Lee. The opposite of a heavily armoured engineering masterpiece.

[Imperializt Russia]

A Bridge Too Far is another really good one. Historically accurate apart from one of the German tanks. They may have been going for a Panther tank, but used a post-war Leopard.

And all of the German planes in BoB were either actually Spanish or models. There's not a lot of genuine WWII German kit knocking around any more for obvious reasons.

The Russians would disagree.

Russian cinema has, on occasion, kitbashed StG-44s to create M16 mockups.

[British Prussia]

And all of the German planes in BoB were either actually Spanish or models. There's not a lot of genuine WWII German kit knocking around any more for obvious reasons.

The Russians would disagree.

Russian cinema has, on occasion, kitbashed StG-44s to create M16 mockups.

Depends on the weapon. For example Mausers. Mass produced, good weapon, easy to maintain, and thus have survived. Wheras something Tiger/Panther tanks, Me 262's... Much harder to come by.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Yeah that happens a lot with war movies, espcially from the 60s and 70s from what ive seen, most likely just comes down to a lack of materials for a good mockup. Especially when it comes to German vehicles. Soviet ones, its probably pretty easy to get some of the models actually used as they had a massive surplus of them.

It was very noticeable In the Battle of the Bulge they used m24 chaffee tanks to play Shermans and Pattons to play Tiger II's

In A Bridge Too Far they did manage to get Shermans and even Sherman Fireflies (well, some looked like them). But yeah it is to be expected. Especially if you want to see a Tiger tank. At least Fury got the real stuff.

Hogan's Hero's Tiger was an M3 Lee. The opposite of a heavily armoured engineering masterpiece.

Well the Tiger in Fury is the only working tiger tank on the planet, and i believe its still kind of sketchy when it comes to working all the time. But it was cool to see an actual Tiger tank on screen.

[Imperializt Russia]

In A Bridge Too Far they did manage to get Shermans and even Sherman Fireflies (well, some looked like them). But yeah it is to be expected. Especially if you want to see a Tiger tank. At least Fury got the real stuff.

Hogan's Hero's Tiger was an M3 Lee. The opposite of a heavily armoured engineering masterpiece.

Well the Tiger in Fury is the only working tiger tank on the planet, and i believe its still kind of sketchy when it comes to working all the time. But it was cool to see an actual Tiger tank on screen.

Well, it was powered by a Tiger II engine... but this was largely because the original engine of 131 had been sectioned for display and is obviously non-op as a result.

The Russians would disagree.

Russian cinema has, on occasion, kitbashed StG-44s to create M16 mockups.

Depends on the weapon. For example Mausers. Mass produced, good weapon, easy to maintain, and thus have survived. Wheras something Tiger/Panther tanks, Me 262's... Much harder to come by.

Tbh, the French used Panthers for a time after the war.

[Napkiraly]

In A Bridge Too Far they did manage to get Shermans and even Sherman Fireflies (well, some looked like them). But yeah it is to be expected. Especially if you want to see a Tiger tank. At least Fury got the real stuff.

Hogan's Hero's Tiger was an M3 Lee. The opposite of a heavily armoured engineering masterpiece.

Well the Tiger in Fury is the only working tiger tank on the planet, and i believe its still kind of sketchy when it comes to working all the time. But it was cool to see an actual Tiger tank on screen.

Yeah it was really cool to see that old beast actually operating.