You reap what you sow? Mass sexual assault in Germany

[Republic of Coldwater]

Instead of allowing millions of refugees into our borders beyond security protocols and common sense, the western world should fund resettlement efforts in other Middle Eastern countries such as Jordan and ensure that all are treated humanely throughout conflict. That would allow us to fulfill our moral obligation to help while not endangering our people.

Indeed. Not only will the refugees not have to be faced with various linguistic and cultural barriers if they move to other Arab countries, but with economies that are faced on low-skill/no-skill labor, the vast majority of the "Syrian" migrants will be able to find easier work and not be a leech on the public domain.

[Alyakia]

Instead of allowing millions of refugees into our borders beyond security protocols and common sense, the western world should fund resettlement efforts in other Middle Eastern countries such as Jordan and ensure that all are treated humanely throughout conflict. That would allow us to fulfill our moral obligation to help while not endangering our people.

Indeed. Not only will the refugees not have to be faced with various linguistic and cultural barriers if they move to other Arab countries, but with economies that are faced on low-skill/no-skill labor, the vast majority of the "Syrian" migrants will be able to find easier work and not be a leech on the public domain.

how many times do i need to post not all arabs are the same there is a reason pan-arabism went down in a ball of fire before people get it

even linguistically we could run into barriers

[Republic of Coldwater]

Indeed. Not only will the refugees not have to be faced with various linguistic and cultural barriers if they move to other Arab countries, but with economies that are faced on low-skill/no-skill labor, the vast majority of the "Syrian" migrants will be able to find easier work and not be a leech on the public domain.

how many times do i need to post not all arabs are the same there is a reason pan-arabism went down in a ball of fire before people get it

even linguistically we could run into barriers

I comprehend that there are definitely differences by region/country, but even so, the jump from Syria to Iran is a lot smaller than a jump from Syria to Sweden.

[Gauthier]

you're right. gamergate has fuck all to do with this. let this be in the last post in this thread involving the word gamergate until something else comes up.

Oh don't worry, someone will bring up MRAs hating muslims soon. They're like clockwork for this shit.

Now why would they? Fundamentalists expect women to be seldom seen and never heard.

[Jochistan]

how many times do i need to post not all arabs are the same there is a reason pan-arabism went down in a ball of fire before people get it

even linguistically we could run into barriers

I comprehend that there are definitely differences by region/country, but even so, the jump from Syria to Iran is a lot smaller than a jump from Syria to Sweden.

Maybe that would work for the Alawites and some of the Shi'a. (Which is what most of them probably do anyway). It would not work for anyone else And other Arab countries openly reject them because of massive regional differences.

[Republic of Coldwater]

I comprehend that there are definitely differences by region/country, but even so, the jump from Syria to Iran is a lot smaller than a jump from Syria to Sweden.

Maybe that would work for the Alawites and some of the Shi'a. (Which is what most of them probably do anyway). It would not work for anyone else And other Arab countries openly reject them because of massive regional differences.

If it is right for Arab countries to reject certain Sryians (I am assuming the Sunni groups) for comparatively small regional differences, then why is it wrong for Western countries, such as Hungary or Denmark to do the same for the exact same reason (though the differences are far larger in Europe)

[Olerand]

Ah, and The Guardian's response http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/08/cologne-attacks-hard-questions-new-years-eve

A long article to say utterly and absolutely nothing.

First she wants sympathy for the men -that's new- spends half the article shit-talking the right and ignoring the issue, and then ends with a call for policing, thus skipping over the complaints completely, especially those of media bias -which after the Le Monde article is absolutely flagrant in my eyes. This from a newspaper that has no problem deriding western culture and men in general for the tiniest of whatever the injustice du jour is.

Oh well.

EDIT: Oh, and she wonders -in that oh so Guardianesque manner- if this was real mass sexual assault, or if it was mass theft disguising itself as mass sexual assault (huh?). Stay classy Guardian.

[Saiwania]

Hmph, and The Guardian is supposed to be a better newspaper than the Daily Mail? If that represents the standard of their typical articles, I'm glad that I reject that source.

[Vassenor]

Remember, any source that doesn't advocate mass lynchings is not a valid one.

[Greater Hunnia]

Britsh children get raped by Pakis - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
Children in Rotherdam get raped by Pakis - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
7/7 - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
Imigrants rioting in London, creating Shariah zones - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
Charlie Hebdo - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
Paris massacre - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
German mass rape - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
Dozens, if not hundreds of would-be terror attacks prevented by European secret services - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"

Completely ignoring the fact that all these could have been prevented by simply not letting third world hordes in Europe. Liberal immigration policies indirectly resulted in hundreds of fatalities and thousands of rapes already, but hey let's ignore the pattern, because "Not all muslims".

[Vassenor]

I think I'm more disgusted by the fact that you and people like you want people to be raped so you can use their trauma to forward your stupid narratives about how evil Islam is.

[Alvecia]

Britsh children get raped by Pakis - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
Children in Rotherdam get raped by Pakis - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
7/7 - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
Imigrants rioting in London, creating Shariah zones - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
Charlie Hebdo - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
Paris massacre - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
German mass rape - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
Dozens, if not hundreds of would-be terror attacks prevented by European secret services - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"

Completely ignoring the fact that all these could have been prevented by simply not letting third world hordes in Europe. Liberal immigration policies indirectly resulted in hundreds of fatalities and thousands of rapes already, but hey let's ignore the pattern, because "Not all muslims".

There have been hundreds of rapes and thousands of fatalities before we let them in, why are we not talking about those?

[Greater Hunnia]

Britsh children get raped by Pakis - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
Children in Rotherdam get raped by Pakis - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
7/7 - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
Imigrants rioting in London, creating Shariah zones - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
Charlie Hebdo - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
Paris massacre - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
German mass rape - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"
Dozens, if not hundreds of would-be terror attacks prevented by European secret services - SJW response: "Not all muslims!"

Completely ignoring the fact that all these could have been prevented by simply not letting third world hordes in Europe. Liberal immigration policies indirectly resulted in hundreds of fatalities and thousands of rapes already, but hey let's ignore the pattern, because "Not all muslims".

There have been hundreds of rapes and thousands of fatalities before we let them in, why are we not talking about those?

First, because those are not racially / religiously motivated crimes. Second, because immigrants have a much higher crime ratio that Europeans (looking at Sweden now...), and finally, because these people did these crimes after being welcomed and provided for in Europe, and they abused the naivity of liberals such as yourself.

+Europeans don't have a habit of blowing up metro stations, commiting suicide bombings, or just opening fire on pedestrians with AKs.

[Vassenor]

It's funny. If I'd said that all white men were rapists then you'd be down on my like a bag of hammers. So why is it suddenly acceptable to make the same stupid generalisation about all Arab men?

[Alyakia]

There have been hundreds of rapes and thousands of fatalities before we let them in, why are we not talking about those?

First, because those are not racially / religiously motivated crimes. Second, because immigrants have a much higher crime ratio that Europeans (looking at Sweden now...), and finally, because these people did these crimes after being welcomed and provided for in Europe, and they abused the naivity of liberals such as yourself.

+Europeans don't have a habit of blowing up metro stations, commiting suicide bombings, or just opening fire on pedestrians with AKs.

this is why nobody takes you seriously. we live in a country where the government raped children and we only just ended a small scale civil war in living memory. when you say shit like this it just makes you sound like you don't know what you're talking about and invalidate whatever point you had.

[Alyakia]

europeans don't have a habit of opening fire with A- *dies midpost by car bomb*

[Greater Hunnia]

It's funny. If I'd said that all white men were rapists then you'd be down on my like a bag of hammers. So why is it suddenly acceptable to make the same stupid generalisation about all Arab men?

If whites were immigrating to arab countries en masse and a significant minority of them would commit such attrocities, it would be an absolutely valid reasons for the said Arab countries to put an end to immigration and expell not only the offenders, but anyone who sympathises with them as well.

[Vassenor]

+Europeans don't have a habit of blowing up metro stations, commiting suicide bombings, or just opening fire on pedestrians with AKs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provision ... y_campaign

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ETA_attacks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks

[Greater Hunnia]

+Europeans don't have a habit of blowing up metro stations, commiting suicide bombings, or just opening fire on pedestrians with AKs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provision ... y_campaign

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ETA_attacks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks

I'd rather not lump together the IRA, ETA, and the Jihadis, as while the problem with the IRA and ETA are / were very hard to deal with, as they are not foreigners but separatists, the problem with Muslims could be instantly solved (for the most part), by not bombing their countries to oblivion and inciting pointless revolutions while allowing them in Europe by the millions at the same time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_d ... ist_groups
about 90% muslim
5% commie
5% other

Pure coincidence.

[Vassenor]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provision ... y_campaign

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ETA_attacks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks

I'd rather not lump together the IRA, ETA, and the Jihadis, as while the problem with the IRA and ETA are / were very hard to deal with, as they are not foreigners but separatists, the problem with Muslims could be instantly solved (for the most part), by not bombing their countries to oblivion and inciting pointless revolutions while allowing them in Europe by the millions at the same time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_d ... ist_groups
about 90% muslim
5% commie
5% other

Pure coincidence.

Your premise was that Europeans don't do those sorts of acts. You can't start moving the goal posts and claiming the presented examples don't count because the motivations don't fit what you consider "true" terrorism.

[Greater Hunnia]

Your premise was that Europeans don't do those sorts of acts. You can't start moving the goal posts and claiming the presented examples don't count because the motivations don't fit what you consider "true" terrorism.

The difference between a terrorist and a partisan / resistance / freedom fighter is that the terrorist attacks inoccents, while the freedom fighter protects his or her own people from foreign agression or government tyranny, by attacking military targets. IRA may or may not be a terrorist organisation, but they certainly don't pose an immediate danger, they were willing to negotiate, and you can't tell the same about the hundreds (or thousands?) of jihadis masquarading as refugees in Europe. And I did not say that Europeans don't do such things. I said that we don't have a habit of such things. In other words, the terrorist attacks in the past decade were the result of the influx of muslim immigrants.

[Alvecia]

There have been hundreds of rapes and thousands of fatalities before we let them in, why are we not talking about those?

First, because those are not racially / religiously motivated crimes. Second, because immigrants have a much higher crime ratio that Europeans (looking at Sweden now...), and finally, because these people did these crimes after being welcomed and provided for in Europe, and they abused the naivity of liberals such as yourself.

+Europeans don't have a habit of blowing up metro stations, commiting suicide bombings, or just opening fire on pedestrians with AKs.

You have no evidence that the recent attacks are religiously or racially motivated crimes either.
In fact you have no evidence that this is anything other than an increase in crime proportionally correlated to an increase in population.
If the number of refugeesthat has entered Europe was instead a slow increase ofthe European population over time, I suspect that we would see the same amount of crime as we are seeing today.
You also not not have evidence that there is a proportional increase in Metro bombings, suicide bombings and civilian deaths that could not be attributed to an increase in activity of the terrorists groups in the Middle East. Particularly Daesh.

[Alvecia]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provision ... y_campaign

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ETA_attacks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks

I'd rather not lump together the IRA, ETA, and the Jihadis, as while the problem with the IRA and ETA are / were very hard to deal with, as they are not foreigners but separatists, the problem with Muslims could be instantly solved (for the most part), by not bombing their countries to oblivion and inciting pointless revolutions while allowing them in Europe by the millions at the same time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_d ... ist_groups
about 90% muslim
5% commie
5% other

Pure coincidence.

Let's play "Name That Logical Fallacy".
I spot:
Moving the Goalposts
Special Pleading
maybe a little No True Scotsman?

[Dahon]

If whites were immigrating to arab countries en masse and a significant minority of them would commit such attrocities, it would be an absolutely valid reason for the said Arab countries to put an end to immigration and expel not only the offenders, but anyone who sympathises with them as well.

Hm, a point. See: early Tokugawa-era Japan and China under both Ming and Ching dynasties for examples of this, and post-Columbian Americas as proof of the results of inaction.

[Murovanka]

So history repeats itself. Deal with it. Last time we had such a pogrom was back in '38; who knows, Germany may be heading down that road for a third time within two centuries. Whether or not the world will once again have to bomb it back to its senses, we'll see, but one thing's for sure that we can slowly say goodbye to these 'universal values' which we thought the whole world shared- freedom of speech and conscience, equality- which are continuously being destroyed by the West and its self-styled "liberals".

Continue to be politically correct. Continue to talk only to people who agree with you, continue to not even look at those who disagree. Continue to support your regimes which are doing all they can to promote islamic fundamentalism. Charlie Hebdo was the last bastion, and you helped destroy it. Regardless, whether or not you'll realize what you have done- God bless, it was a good time.