You reap what you sow? Mass sexual assault in Germany

[Vassenor]

Of course it can. Whether it will is still unknown.

Well I mean, if Syria is a warzone and these savages are refugees, are they legally allowed to deport them back to war torn Syria?

But yeah, of course they're not going to. The spineless, worthless government is more likely to mandate free blowjobs for refugees and self policing shariah zones before it kicks them out.

Or, you know, it could try them and imprison them like anyone else who is convicted of the same crime.

[Jochistan]

>Uneducated peasants coming from a culture where women are worth nothing and have no rights, and crime is the only decent way to make a living
>Uneducated peasants treat native women poorly and commit crimes
>World literally shocked

Not all or probably even most of them, but I know I shouldn't have said anything.

Now ill informed accusations of liberal progressivism will come flying. Everybody watch.

[Esternial]

>Uneducated peasants coming from a culture where women are worth nothing and have no rights, and crime is the only decent way to make a living
>Uneducated peasants treat native women poorly and commit crimes
>World literally shocked

The details about who did it are still scarce so I wouldn't focus on lynching people as some here are so inclined.

Maybe a more important topic is the overall sexual norms in society. It's all nice and well to start throwing dirt at foreigners but without them a load of women get assaulted and raped each day in our "civilised" society. It's not even verified if the culprits were Syrian refugees.

[Chessmistress]

Some thoughts from Alice Schwarzer, a German Radical Feminist, about such matter

We are experiencing the disastrous consequences of this ignorance not only today. And by the way, hint at the self-righteous "anti-racists" of the service: with the bright-eyed import man violence, sexism and anti-Semitism, we endanger not only our security and values; We do also this brutalized young men wrongly that Yes are not born as perpetrators. They are shaped by the experiences of a traditionally violent patriarchy within the family, as well as the civil wars in the streets, what did she do to offenders and victims. If we now take them on, they have also the right to get a chance: the chance to be decent people. Which also means: the duty to integrate

Full article (in German) here
http://www.aliceschwarzer.de/artikel/da ... anz-331143

[Esternial]

Some thoughts from Alice Schwarzer, a German Radical Feminist, about such matter

We are experiencing the disastrous consequences of this ignorance not only today. And by the way, hint at the self-righteous "anti-racists" of the service: with the bright-eyed import man violence, sexism and anti-Semitism, we endanger not only our security and values; We do also this brutalized young men wrongly that Yes are not born as perpetrators. They are shaped by the experiences of a traditionally violent patriarchy within the family, as well as the civil wars in the streets, what did she do to offenders and victims. If we now take them on, they have also the right to get a chance: the chance to be decent people. Which also means: the duty to integrate

Full article (in German) here
http://www.aliceschwarzer.de/artikel/da ... anz-331143

Your point being...

[Vassenor]

Some thoughts from Alice Schwarzer, a German Radical Feminist, about such matter



Full article (in German) here
http://www.aliceschwarzer.de/artikel/da ... anz-331143

Your point being...

That we need to teach them not to rape like all other men.

[Ostroeuropa]

Your point being...

That we need to teach them not to rape like all other men.

Mandatory education for adults? Get real. The only opportunities we have are sex ed in schools. That still leaves us with a bunch of rapey adults.

From reddit:

This is 3rd world behavior from 3rd world people - people who think women are lesser than men. People who think homosexuals are deserving of, at best, oppression and at worst, violence. People who are aggressively anti-science and anti-education (well, for women at least). People who think insane religious laws should govern secular nations. People who think they're owed a safe passage to a 1st world nation that bends over backwards for them, only to want to turn it into a regressive, oppressive, cesspool. They carry a plague, only this time it's their subhuman ideologies and tendencies.
7th century, knuckle-dragging barbarians have no place in 1st world secular societies, yet spineless PC politicians and aggressively stupid social justice warriors cannot help but poison our nations with them.

Strongly phrased, but broadly I agree with the sentiment.
There is no humanitarian obligation to cater to homophobic, backward, and superstitious barbarians

This is little more than a sanctioned invasion of the west. They should fuck off back to islamic lands and have them take care of their own.

This isn't a matter of it being some of them. You're all in fucking denial.
These people are from medieval fucking societies, what did we expect?

http://www.thelocal.se/20151231/refugee ... ion-centre

35/38.
35 out of 38 occupants shit themselves because GHoOoOOsts.
The minority we all laugh at for being superstitious?
Yeh. A majority. Because medieval fucking societies. Why the fuck did we think this would turn out well?

We've seen polls done before on attitudes in these communities, and it's horrifying even after generations pass, they're STILL backward.
The exception is NOT the rule. We shouldn't be letting people into our countries whose memes we are actively trying to snuff out, ESPECIALLY as SJWs and the government piss themselves at the prospect of grabbing a megaphone and busting into a mosque and telling them to get with the programme.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Well I mean, if Syria is a warzone and these savages are refugees, are they legally allowed to deport them back to war torn Syria?

But yeah, of course they're not going to. The spineless, worthless government is more likely to mandate free blowjobs for refugees and self policing shariah zones before it kicks them out.

Or, you know, it could try them and imprison them like anyone else who is convicted of the same crime.

Why spend the money and resources keeping them in prison when it's be cheaper to dump them back in Syria for abusing their refugee status?

[The Nuclear Fist]

>Uneducated peasants coming from a culture where women are worth nothing and have no rights, and crime is the only decent way to make a living
>Uneducated peasants treat native women poorly and commit crimes
>World literally shocked

Not all or probably even most of them, but I know I shouldn't have said anything.

Now ill informed accusations of liberal progressivism will come flying. Everybody watch.

Given that I am a liberal progressive, I'm not sure why you'd think I'd do that.

[The Nuclear Fist]

>Uneducated peasants coming from a culture where women are worth nothing and have no rights, and crime is the only decent way to make a living
>Uneducated peasants treat native women poorly and commit crimes
>World literally shocked

The details about who did it are still scarce so I wouldn't focus on lynching people as some here are so inclined.

Maybe a more important topic is the overall sexual norms in society. It's all nice and well to start throwing dirt at foreigners but without them a load of women get assaulted and raped each day in our "civilised" society. It's not even verified if the culprits were Syrian refugees.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ugees.html

They were middle eastern migrants, and they should be sent back to rot for being such depraved scum. Are all the migrants like this? No, but the ones that are shouldn't be given another chance.

:^)

[Olerand]

Jesus, I just read the report by Le Monde about Die Welt's new revelations on the issue, and Jesus Christ this is turning out to be some Rotherham shit, or at least an attempt at a Rotherham.

I don't know if any English media have reported on the revelations -and I don't think they will, as I checked the NYT and Guardian and they both had some piece about how Muslims now have to face stigma, as they are wont to do- but good Lord.

I'll see if I can find any English language source by mourning on the American Eastern Seaboard.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Jesus, I just read the report by Le Monde about Die Welt's new revelations on the issue, and Jesus Christ this is turning out to be some Rotherham shit, or at least an attempt at a Rotherham.

I don't know if any English media have reported on the revelations -and I don't think they will, as I checked the NYT and Guardian and they both had some piece about how Muslims now have to face stigma, as they are wont to do- but good Lord.

I'll see if I can find any English language source by mourning on the American Eastern Seaboard.

Can you try to translate?

[Ostroeuropa]

Jesus, I just read the report by Le Monde about Die Welt's new revelations on the issue, and Jesus Christ this is turning out to be some Rotherham shit, or at least an attempt at a Rotherham.

I don't know if any English media have reported on the revelations -and I don't think they will, as I checked the NYT and Guardian and they both had some piece about how Muslims now have to face stigma, as they are wont to do- but good Lord.

I'll see if I can find any English language source by mourning on the American Eastern Seaboard.

Can you try to translate?

Since he refered to Rotheram, it'll be that german officials were scared to admit what was happening because SJWs would crucify them in the media, and so attempted to cover it up or minimize the publics awareness of the event.

[Olerand]

The details about who did it are still scarce so I wouldn't focus on lynching people as some here are so inclined.

Maybe a more important topic is the overall sexual norms in society. It's all nice and well to start throwing dirt at foreigners but without them a load of women get assaulted and raped each day in our "civilised" society. It's not even verified if the culprits were Syrian refugees.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ugees.html

They were middle eastern migrants, and they should be sent back to rot for being such depraved scum. Are all the migrants like this? No, but the ones that are shouldn't be given another chance.

:^)

Ah, there it is. I should have checked non-liberal sources, so many years of reading English news you would think I would know. The Le Monde article had much more details, however; and was frankly harrowing to read.

EDIT- And a police commissioner, from the administration, confirmed the leak and the anonymous reports by the disgruntled police. Shouldn't have tried to scapegoat them I guess.

[Ostroeuropa]

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction ... /?sort=top

Forbes Journalist Who Described 1,000 Arab Man Rape Gang Attack in Germany as a Right Wing Conspiracy Blames GamerGate for Receiving Backlash

Lol. They're so comical. Jesus christ. How the fuck do these people have jobs?
(And no, there is no evidence it's anything to do with gamergate, beyond them now pissing themselves laughing at another SJW gamedropping.)

[Jochistan]

Can you try to translate?

Since he refered to Rotheram, it'll be that german officials were scared to admit what was happening because SJWs would crucify them in the media, and so attempted to cover it up or minimize the publics awareness of the event.

SJWs don't have a monopoly in media. neither do liberals.

[Ostroeuropa]

Since he refered to Rotheram, it'll be that german officials were scared to admit what was happening because SJWs would crucify them in the media, and so attempted to cover it up or minimize the publics awareness of the event.

SJWs don't have a monopoly in media. neither do liberals.

It's pointless pretending you haven't seen media crucifixions started by these people. Sometimes over outright lies, but they don't back down.
Remember this guy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Hunt
Yeh. Not the only one. Not the only one by far.

It's not unreasonable to think that given there is a precedence for state officials to be scared of media demonization as racists/sexists and such, that they would repeat the mistakes of rotheram.

They may not have a monopoly, but they sure can scream loud enough and force enough of the media to focus on you that it seems like one.

[Alyakia]

you're right. gamergate has fuck all to do with this. let this be in the last post in this thread involving the word gamergate until something else comes up.

[Ostroeuropa]

you're right. gamergate has fuck all to do with this. let this be in the last post in this thread involving the word gamergate until something else comes up.

Oh don't worry, someone will bring up MRAs hating muslims soon. They're like clockwork for this shit.

[Jochistan]

SJWs don't have a monopoly in media. neither do liberals.

It's pointless pretending you haven't seen media crucifixions started by these people. Sometimes over outright lies, but they don't back down.
Remember this guy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Hunt
Yeh. Not the only one. Not the only one by far.

It's not unreasonable to think that given there is a precedence for state officials to be scared of media demonization as racists/sexists and such, that they would repeat the mistakes of rotheram.

They may not have a monopoly, but they sure can scream loud enough and force enough of the media to focus on you that it seems like one.

I didn't hear about that. but they don't have a monopoly or even enough power to qualify a beginning of a takeover in media. You could ruin any minor persons life if you get enough people together, take it from me.

But I don't think that makes them all powerful. it just makes them another opportunistic interest group. No different than any other on the right or the left.

[Ostroeuropa]

It's pointless pretending you haven't seen media crucifixions started by these people. Sometimes over outright lies, but they don't back down.
Remember this guy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Hunt
Yeh. Not the only one. Not the only one by far.

It's not unreasonable to think that given there is a precedence for state officials to be scared of media demonization as racists/sexists and such, that they would repeat the mistakes of rotheram.

They may not have a monopoly, but they sure can scream loud enough and force enough of the media to focus on you that it seems like one.

I didn't hear about that. but they don't have a monopoly or even enough power to qualify a beginning of a takeover in media. You could ruin any minor persons life if you get enough people together, take it from me.

But I don't think that makes them all powerful. it just makes them another opportunistic interest group. No different than any other on the right or the left.

They've done it to dozens and dozens of people, a number of times, consistently for years. There is a reason the rotheram scandal happened.
SJWs have a serious influence over the media. That's part of the reason why germany is so hesitant to admit these are migrants.

[Jochistan]

I didn't hear about that. but they don't have a monopoly or even enough power to qualify a beginning of a takeover in media. You could ruin any minor persons life if you get enough people together, take it from me.

But I don't think that makes them all powerful. it just makes them another opportunistic interest group. No different than any other on the right or the left.

They've done it to dozens and dozens of people, a number of times, consistently for years. There is a reason the rotheram scandal happened.
SJWs have a serious influence over the media. That's part of the reason why germany is so hesitant to admit these are migrants.

Okay, I really don't think they're that powerful. They're enough to ruin the lives of fucking game developers and minor professors. But not of a country.

The reason is a little more complex than pissing off millenial superliberals that Germany doesn't "admit they're migrants". And you're Liberal as fuck too, bro. Just in a different way.

[Libreng]

Instead of allowing millions of refugees into our borders beyond security protocols and common sense, the western world should fund resettlement efforts in other Middle Eastern countries such as Jordan and ensure that all are treated humanely throughout conflict. That would allow us to fulfill our moral obligation to help while not endangering our people.

[Olerand]

Quite a hefty translation is coming, so be warned.

[Olerand]

Alright, so a translation. EDIT: Le Monde is reporting on an article from a German newspaper, from Die Welt; and the rest from Bild and Spiegel. If the report from Die Welt is also confirmed -the info from Bild and Spiegel is confirmed as true, this is some serious issue. Anyway so, in bullet points:

From the Die Welt report:

- The police actually, contrary to their claims, have precise information about the events. They actually stopped over 100 men that night -they claim they stopped no one. Some were arrested. Only a small minority of those stopped and arrested were North African -as is the official claim, which also initially included sub-Saharan Africans- the biggest part were Syrian.

- The information about the night was being provided by police officers present at the station in Cologne that night; they are speaking anonymously, to contradict de Maizière -the Interior Minister- who said the police were at fault for not doing enough and not responding. Also Le Monde reminds, Reker -that lovely woman of the code of conduct infamy- said there was no proof any of the assailants were migrants.

- Die Welt reports that at the station, the men controlled showed identification documents received during the registration for asylum process. The men wanted to "commit sexual aggression, or in other words, to have sexual fun (makes sense in French, not so much in English). According to the police, there wasn't 1000 men, but more about 2000. Almost all of Arab origin, crowding around a ray of about two kilometers around the station. No one expected this, and no one could prevent it. These facts have been confirmed by a leaked police report -provided by Die Welt.

- Asked about this by the journal, the chief of the police union of North Rhine-Westphalia said : "I can understand that some officers would leak information anonymously. They want to defend (themselves, and the profession I presume from the way it is written) against the false accusations flying around". The union chief also confirmed the claim -made by the mayor and the Cologne chief of police- that nothing proved that the attackers were migrants was false.

Confirmed from Bild and Spiegel; tragic and detailed telling of events:

- Thursday, the German press, so other than Die Welt, also reported that a police report shows that the events were more serious than what the police acknowledged. This information is provided by Bild and Spiegel. The police present were utterly overwhelmed, the men present were assaulting women, throwing bottles and fireworks around the area. Bild's report describes the station completely surrounded by thousands of men "essentially (or mostly, they mean mostly I'm not sure if essentially means mostly in English as accurately as in French) issued from immigration"; under the influence, firing bottles and fireworks at crowds and the police. Even during the beginning of the night -keep in mind, the next day, Cologne police reported the night was orderly and went well- at around 9:45, people were already reporting robberies and sexual assaults. In a quote, even the appearance of the police did not stop the events, not in the station, nor outside. At around 10:45, the area fills up some more (this has to have been organized, that's just my opinion here) women present "accompanied (by men I presume) or otherwise, had to go through a veritable obstacle course to get out and away from the station". Considering the fireworks being fired at people, the police say they needed to evacuate the area, to avoid physical injury (sucks for the women I guess, sexual assault and rape are not "physical injuries" maybe) or death.

- The evacuation begins at around 11:30 and is extremely difficult because of the violence of the men present. During the operation, "numerous young women and women, shocked and in tears, run to the police and report having been assaulted sexually by groups of men". "The police couldn't control the events, assaults or crimes, there were too many occurring at the same time". The police, who the report acknowledged were overwhelmed, could no longer keep track of the complaints.

- The entire station was sacked; trains could not be boarded or unloaded. To the cries of help, the police could not adequately respond because the assailants formed tight circles around their victims; many women were only and barely saved from being raped by passersby, who were in turn assaulted (Underlined by me for emphasis, this struck me strongly). "In this situation, no arrests were possible". The policeman reporting writes he faced a level of "disrespect" never experienced in "29 years of service".

- Complaints have now risen to 121. 3/4 of them are now classified as sexual assaults, including 2 rapes. Complaints are also being filed in other cities in Germany. At Stuttgart, Munich, Berlin; and Hamburg where 50 sexual assaults in similar conditions have been reported.

- The spokesperson of the city police said to Spiegel that the phenomenon of men encircling women to assault them and rape them has never been seen before; even during popular events like the port celebrations, where thefts and harassments are more commonly reported.

- Several German politicians, including Mutti, have promised a firm response.

In conclusion, I am reminded of the NYT piece that they apparently chose to run -from the Associated Press- instead of this; where a Germano-Tunisian lawyer said they (don't know who "they" are) will sue the police if anti-Muslim acts spike in Germany, because the police baseless-ly (apparently not) reported that the assailants were Arab.

Oof.

EDIT: Edited for clarity and such.