You reap what you sow? Mass sexual assault in Germany

[Kauthar]

I think the ones responsible, Refugee, local, or just common immigrant should be shipped on a plane to ISIS ran Syria and left there wearing a s

Do you think FN counts as far right?

Yes.

The far-right, as in the identitaires movements, Jobbik and cohorts, are not about to come to power in any European nation anyway.

Jobbik's popularity is rising rapidly. They have quite a big chance to come to power, especially after the Paris attacks the far-right has gained a lot more support thankfully.

[Saiwania]

No, the FN is radical right. Far-right groups exist in France, but are minor, like the far-left.

Under the right economic or social conditions though, it could arguably become major. The mainstream parties can try to ban them but it will do them no good if the people no longer have confidence in the democratic systems.

[Jochistan]

Do you think FN counts as far right?

No, the FN is radical right. Far-right groups exist in France, but are minor, like the far-left.

Oh, ok. And are you for the "radical right" taking power?

[Esternial]

No, the FN is radical right. Far-right groups exist in France, but are minor, like the far-left.

Under the right economic or social conditions though, it could arguably become major. The mainstream parties can try to ban them but it will do them no good if the people no longer have confidence in the democratic systems.

Nah, they won't.

[Jochistan]

Jobbik's popularity is rising rapidly.

Oh. those excuses for Turanists.

Turanism by definition is Pan National. If you don't want to share, you can't play.

Muslims in Central Asia and Turkey have also subscribed to the Turanism as well.

So, Jobbiks utterly anti-Islam, and anti-Turk stance is extremely counterproductive in itself.

[Saiwania]

Nah, they won't.

All it takes is enough social unrest or economic collapse. Then the people will either want the revolution that the far left provides, or the order that the far right offers.

[Olerand]

I think the ones responsible, Refugee, local, or just common immigrant should be shipped on a plane to ISIS ran Syria and left there wearing a s
Yes.

Jobbik's popularity is rising rapidly. They have quite a big chance to come to power, especially after the Paris attacks the far-right has gained a lot more support thankfully.

Not really. They are the main opposition in Hungary, and they are nipping at Fidesz's heels, but Orban will probably get it under control. He's no liberal either.

No, the FN is radical right. Far-right groups exist in France, but are minor, like the far-left.

Under the right economic or social conditions though, it could arguably become major. The mainstream parties can try to ban them but it will do them no good if the people no longer have confidence in the democratic systems.

The far-right is nowhere near power anywhere in Europe.

No, the FN is radical right. Far-right groups exist in France, but are minor, like the far-left.

Oh, ok. And are you for the "radical right" taking power?

As stated earlier, I am a card-carying member of the Socialist Party -albeit nowhere near the "frondeurs" insanity, so to some, I am a social-traitor, but that's a disagreement over economic policy. So, no.

I am, however, as I have also stated earlier lucid and sane. I can see the Berezina waiting for us. I don't think Le Pen will win -yet perhaps, she might in 2022 if the right doesn't do a better job- in 2017.

Also, in case you missed my edit of my previous post:

EDIT: A leading figure of the far-right in France: Serge Ayoub.

[Farnhamia]

I think the ones responsible, Refugee, local, or just common immigrant should be shipped on a plane to ISIS ran Syria and left there wearing a sign saying "NATO spy".

*** Warned for trolling. ***

[Esternial]

Nah, they won't.

All it takes is enough social unrest or economic collapse. Then the people will either want the revolution that the far left provides, or the order that the far right offers.

Sure it will, pet, just like it does in Europa Universalis.

I'm going to get my fearmongering from people with credentials, the kind of people that interpret something in a less hilariously simplistic fashion, but I'm sure you can peddle that stuff to one or two people.

[Kauthar]

No, the FN is radical right. Far-right groups exist in France, but are minor, like the far-left.

Oh, ok. And are you for the "radical right" taking power?

I am. I'm not an extremist but they're the only hope for Europe.

[Jochistan]

Oh, ok. And are you for the "radical right" taking power?

I am. I'm not an extremist but they're the only hope for Europe.

What's extremist by your definition?

[Olerand]

The French far-right: http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2014/01/26/manifestation-heteroclite-a-paris-pour-le-jour-de-colere_4354690_3224.html

[Jochistan]

Nah, they won't.

All it takes is enough social unrest or economic collapse. Then the people will either want the revolution that the far left provides, or the order that the far right offers.

Shariah under Wahhabis offers "order" as well.

Does not mean you would want it.

[Saiwania]

Shariah under Wahhabis offers "order" as well. Does not mean you would want it.

It is perfectly consistent for me to hate Sharia but to love the European right wing, one has nothing to do with the other. If anything the right in Europe wants to put a stop to the immigration from Muslim countries and do a crackdown on the ones already there. So far as what Wahhabis want, it would only negatively effect me as an infidel.

[Baltenstein]

The French far-right: http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2014/01/26/manifestation-heteroclite-a-paris-pour-le-jour-de-colere_4354690_3224.html

Making fun of the Holocaust? I suppose they'd get along well with Islamic extremists.

[Baltenstein]

Jobbik's popularity is rising rapidly.

Oh. those excuses for Turanists.

Turanism by definition is Pan National. If you don't want to share, you can't play.

Muslims in Central Asia and Turkey have also subscribed to the Turanism as well.

So, Jobbiks utterly anti-Islam, and anti-Turk stance is extremely counterproductive in itself.

It get's more hilarious if you consider that the Hungarian people's alleged Turkic roots are pretty much a myth. They're about as Turkish as Timo Soini.

[Olerand]

The French far-right: http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2014/01/26/manifestation-heteroclite-a-paris-pour-le-jour-de-colere_4354690_3224.html

Making fun of the Holocaust? I suppose they'd get along well with Islamic extremists.

Shoananas or Holocopineapple. Popularized by a "comedian" polemicist named Dieudonné M'bala M'bala -a "comedian" popular in the banlieues and the far-right for his "critic of Zionism"- also close to Alain Soral -Holocaust "questioner". All in all, it's a convoluted sphere of anti-Jewish Muslims, anti-Jewish but also anti-Muslim French ethnic supremacists, and their ilk. The only tie is hatred for Jews. This particular "protest" was most famous for the calls of "death to the Jews" chanted.

That is the far-right.

A clear cut between the radical-right and the far-right, at least publicly, was made when Marine came out against M'bala and his ideas while her father was M'bala's daughter's godfather.

[Baltenstein]

Making fun of the Holocaust? I suppose they'd get along well with Islamic extremists.

Shoananas or Holocopineapple. Popularized by a "comedian" polemicist named Dieudonné M'bala M'bala -a "comedian" popular in the banlieues and the far-right for his "critic of Zionism"- also close to Alain Soral -Holocaust "questioner". All in all, it's a convoluted sphere of anti-Jewish Muslims, anti-Jewish but also anti-Muslim French ethnic supremacists, and their ilk. The only tie is hatred for Jews. This particular "protest" was most famous for the calls of "death to the Jews" chanted.

That is the far-right.

A clear cut between the radical-right and the far-right, at least publicly, was made when Marine came out against M'bala and his ideas while her father was M'bala's daughter's godfather.

Didn´t M´bala visit Auschwitz once? Was it a "show of remorse" of some sort?

[Olerand]

Shoananas or Holocopineapple. Popularized by a "comedian" polemicist named Dieudonné M'bala M'bala -a "comedian" popular in the banlieues and the far-right for his "critic of Zionism"- also close to Alain Soral -Holocaust "questioner". All in all, it's a convoluted sphere of anti-Jewish Muslims, anti-Jewish but also anti-Muslim French ethnic supremacists, and their ilk. The only tie is hatred for Jews. This particular "protest" was most famous for the calls of "death to the Jews" chanted.

That is the far-right.

A clear cut between the radical-right and the far-right, at least publicly, was made when Marine came out against M'bala and his ideas while her father was M'bala's daughter's godfather.

Didn´t M´bala visit Auschwitz once? Was it a "show of remorse" of some sort?

Did he? Hasn't shown much remorse then. He's toned down his shows down since the government brought down the hammer on him and mayors and theaters started cancelling his act -and thus hurting his profits- but I doubt he's "reformed".

[Baltenstein]

Didn´t M´bala visit Auschwitz once? Was it a "show of remorse" of some sort?

Did he? Hasn't shown much remorse then. He's toned down his shows down since the government brought down the hammer on him and mayors and theaters started cancelling his act -and thus hurting his profits- but I doubt he's "reformed".

Yes, in 2005 apparently.

In other news, German policemen are now saying that a majority of the suspects caught by the police were in fact, Syrian refugees.

http://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/zeitges ... an-polizei

Also: The officer in charge of writing down the police report on the events apparently deliberately shied away from mentioning their nationality due to it being, quote, "politically delicate". The article is basing its claims on inside sources from the Cologne police.

http://www.welt.de/politik/article15062 ... nannt.html

[The Nuclear Fist]

>Uneducated peasants coming from a culture where women are worth nothing and have no rights, and crime is the only decent way to make a living
>Uneducated peasants treat native women poorly and commit crimes
>World literally shocked

[The Nuclear Fist]

Did he? Hasn't shown much remorse then. He's toned down his shows down since the government brought down the hammer on him and mayors and theaters started cancelling his act -and thus hurting his profits- but I doubt he's "reformed".

Yes, in 2005 apparently.

In other news, German policemen are now saying that a majority of the suspects caught by the police were in fact, Syrian refugees.

http://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/zeitges ... an-polizei

Also: The officer in charge of writing down the police report on the events apparently deliberately shied away from mentioning their nationality due to it being, quote, "politically delicate". The article is basing its claims on inside sources from the Cologne police.

http://www.welt.de/politik/article15062 ... nannt.html

Can the German government deport them?

[Geilinor]

Can the German government deport them?

Of course it can. Whether it will is still unknown.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Can the German government deport them?

Of course it can. Whether it will is still unknown.

Well I mean, if Syria is a warzone and these savages are refugees, are they legally allowed to deport them back to war torn Syria?

But yeah, of course they're not going to. The spineless, worthless government is more likely to mandate free blowjobs for refugees and self policing shariah zones before it kicks them out.

[Jochistan]

Shariah under Wahhabis offers "order" as well. Does not mean you would want it.

It is perfectly consistent for me to hate Sharia but to love the European right wing, one has nothing to do with the other. If anything the right in Europe wants to put a stop to the immigration from Muslim countries and do a crackdown on the ones already there. So far as what Wahhabis want, it would only negatively effect me as an infidel.

They're both extremely far right. and both will have the same consequences for the people they don't help, more or less.