You reap what you sow? Mass sexual assault in Germany

[Olerand]

Who said he was? I argued that those who rioted did not look like Salafists. Which they did not.

They probably were. Or just unobservant criminals who adhered to salafi influenced traditions of some ghetto or province.

Perhaps. I said they did not -visually- look like Salafists. If they were, they did not look it. The second possibility is more likely; just as likely as conservative Muslims who were outraged by the "aggression" on a fellow Muslim -regardless of school.

[The Lone Alliance]

Anyway, in regards to this tragedy, and the ones that happened elsewhere in Hamburg and other places, the police have already declared that there are not likely to be any arrests.

There won't be arrests but there will be reprisals.

[Remonetise]

So, were they actually immigrants? According to the news that detail is still quite vague. One eye witness said that they were too well-dressed to possibly be refugees.

Because most of this thread is "rabble rabble rabble immigrants rabble rabble" while ignoring the issue regarding sexual norms and sexual assault in our society. It's outrageous.

Considering how common it is, sexual assault is treated to varying degrees of reaction. If it's someone well liked and assimilated with enough supporters, it may be disregarded entirely. If it's an unpopular person, it may actually be dealt with. Sometimes those first case people get away with it until there are enough claims that it can't be ignored anymore. Syrians are the object of derision, specifically refugees, and if there is any criminal activity, they won't have the same sympathy. You can't judge an individual for their individual actions anymore because it reflects on their entire cultural or religious affiliation as a whole. And that's sad. Mass-blame for the actions of some is not the kind of attitude that should be perpetuated in these situations.

[Saiwania]

Anyway, in regards to this tragedy, and the ones that happened elsewhere in Hamburg and other places, the police have already declared that there are not likely to be any arrests.

This is a perfect reason for Europeans to vote for the far right. They should heavily campaign on the platform that the mainstream parties do not care what happens to the country so long as they can remain in power and continue to massively import people from the poorest nations. If elected, the far right will actually put a stop to ruinous immigration policies and do a much needed crackdown on the people causing crime.

[Olerand]

No, there are. None in France being funded by the Moroccan or Algerian State.

Then why did you make the claim that the maliki ones are funded by them?

Salafis can be from any madhab. But only Hanbali is pretty much exclusively held by them.

What? I said no mosque funded by Algeria or Morocco is Salafi; because Algeria and Morocco exclusively fund Maliki -presumably not Salafi, neither State has ever been shown to be a fund-er of Salafis in France, so far that is only Saudi Arabia- mosques.

[Olerand]

Anyway, in regards to this tragedy, and the ones that happened elsewhere in Hamburg and other places, the police have already declared that there are not likely to be any arrests.

There won't be arrests but there will be reprisals.

No there won't. No more than the usual arsons in Germany.

[Jochistan]

They probably were. Or just unobservant criminals who adhered to salafi influenced traditions of some ghetto or province.

Perhaps. I said they did not -visually- look like Salafists. If they were, they did not look it. The second possibility is more likely; just as likely as conservative Muslims who were outraged by the "aggression" on a fellow Muslim -regardless of school.

I'll say this for the last time. Madhab barely means shit when judging someones views. How they follow said madhab through movement, subsect, tradition or orientation is infinitely more important. With the Exception of Hanbali, I guess.

Barely anyone attacks people based on Madhab.

[Jochistan]

Then why did you make the claim that the maliki ones are funded by them?

Salafis can be from any madhab. But only Hanbali is pretty much exclusively held by them.

What? I said no mosque funded by Algeria or Morocco is Salafi; because Algeria and Morocco exclusively fund Maliki -presumably not Salafi, neither State has ever been shown to be a fund-er of Salafis in France, so far that is only Saudi Arabia- mosques.

There are Salafis from every madhab.

The Salafis in North Africa and the Sufi Orders they're trying to physically destroy are from the same fucking madhab.

[Arkinesia]

You know that the anti-muslim rhetoric had been quite virulent, even more than in the U.S possibly, in all Europe since the two last decades, right?

Definitely, Marine Le Pen has even dissociated herself from Trump.

Which is surprising, since both masturbate to Putin. Though at least Trump hasn't taken money from Pu—OH CHRIST I'm looking to Trump as a positive example?

[Olerand]

Perhaps. I said they did not -visually- look like Salafists. If they were, they did not look it. The second possibility is more likely; just as likely as conservative Muslims who were outraged by the "aggression" on a fellow Muslim -regardless of school.

I'll say this for the last time. Madhab barely means shit when judging someones views. How they follow said madhab through movement, subsect, tradition or orientation is infinitely more important. With the Exception of Hanbali, I guess.

Barely anyone attacks people based on Madhab.

I am aware. I am reiterating two facts; Morocco and Algeria only fund Maliki mosques -they do not fund any other madhhab; and there is no proof that either has ever funded Maliki Salafi mosques. Two statements.

[Olerand]

Definitely, Marine Le Pen has even dissociated herself from Trump.

Which is surprising, since both masturbate to Putin. Though at least Trump hasn't taken money from Pu—OH CHRIST I'm looking to Trump as a positive example?

Fro different reasons. Le Pen and Putin are allies; Trump and Putin are shared admirers.

[Jochistan]

I'll say this for the last time. Madhab barely means shit when judging someones views. How they follow said madhab through movement, subsect, tradition or orientation is infinitely more important. With the Exception of Hanbali, I guess.

Barely anyone attacks people based on Madhab.

I am aware. I am reiterating two facts; Morocco and Algeria only fund Maliki mosques -they do not fund any other madhhab; and there is no proof that either has ever funded Maliki Salafi mosques. Two statements.

And yet many Salafi Imams are from there.

[Olerand]

I am aware. I am reiterating two facts; Morocco and Algeria only fund Maliki mosques -they do not fund any other madhhab; and there is no proof that either has ever funded Maliki Salafi mosques. Two statements.

And yet many Salafi Imams are from there.

Of course. The largest contingent -in total numbers- of "foreigners" who have joined the Islamic State is Tunisian. But, in France; there is no proof that the Moroccan and Algerian States are funding Salafi mosques.

[The balkens]

Anyway, in regards to this tragedy, and the ones that happened elsewhere in Hamburg and other places, the police have already declared that there are not likely to be any arrests.

Ah yes, nothing says like protect and serve like stand and observe!

[Geilinor]

Which is surprising, since both masturbate to Putin. Though at least Trump hasn't taken money from Pu—OH CHRIST I'm looking to Trump as a positive example?

Fro different reasons. Le Pen and Putin are allies; Trump and Putin are shared admirers.

Trump isn't an ally of Putin yet, but if he gets elected he will be.

[Olerand]

Anyway, in regards to this tragedy, and the ones that happened elsewhere in Hamburg and other places, the police have already declared that there are not likely to be any arrests.

Ah yes, nothing says like protect and serve like stand and observe!

Well, they say the women couldn't identify them -obviously- and there are too many people on the CCTV cameras to identify anyone.
Maybe if they hadn't drawn this out for so long they could have done something -or not- the next day. But according to their Twitter, the celebrations were calm and orderly.

Fro different reasons. Le Pen and Putin are allies; Trump and Putin are shared admirers.

Trump isn't an ally of Putin yet, but if he gets elected he will be.

I don't think so. Regardless of presidents, America's interests and Russia's have diverged significantly, for the foreseeable future.

[Jochistan]

Anyway, in regards to this tragedy, and the ones that happened elsewhere in Hamburg and other places, the police have already declared that there are not likely to be any arrests.

This is a perfect reason for Europeans to vote for the far right. They should heavily campaign on the platform that the mainstream parties do not care what happens to the country so long as they can remain in power and continue to massively import people from the poorest nations. If elected, the far right will actually put a stop to ruinous immigration policies and do a much needed crackdown on the people causing crime.

And give the people in their care freedom, liberty and lots of love. <3

[Olerand]

This is a perfect reason for Europeans to vote for the far right. They should heavily campaign on the platform that the mainstream parties do not care what happens to the country so long as they can remain in power and continue to massively import people from the poorest nations. If elected, the far right will actually put a stop to ruinous immigration policies and do a much needed crackdown on the people causing crime.

And give the people in their care freedom, liberty and lots of love. <3

The far-right, as in the identitaires movements, Jobbik and cohorts, are not about to come to power in any European nation anyway.

[Baltenstein]

Fro different reasons. Le Pen and Putin are allies; Trump and Putin are shared admirers.

Trump isn't an ally of Putin yet, but if he gets elected he will be.

It's obvious that Putin would prefer Trump over Hillary as president, but I don't think they'd become allies.

[Saiwania]

The far-right, as in the identitaires movements, Jobbik and cohorts, are not about to come to power in any European nation anyway.

It should, are we not witnessing liberal policies fail across the board in Europe? Why does the electorate vote for more of the same if everything is getting worse?

[Olerand]

The far-right, as in the identitaires movements, Jobbik and cohorts, are not about to come to power in any European nation anyway.

It should, are we not witnessing liberal policies fail across the board in Europe? Why does the electorate vote for more of the same if everything is getting worse?

Jumping from the frying pan to the fire is really not necessary.

[Esternial]

The far-right, as in the identitaires movements, Jobbik and cohorts, are not about to come to power in any European nation anyway.

It should, are we not witnessing liberal policies fail across the board in Europe? Why does the electorate vote for more of the same if everything is getting worse?

Nah we're not.

[Arkinesia]

Fro different reasons. Le Pen and Putin are allies; Trump and Putin are shared admirers.

Trump isn't an ally of Putin yet, but if he gets elected he will be.

Ally of Putin, code for subservient to.

[Jochistan]

And give the people in their care freedom, liberty and lots of love. <3

The far-right, as in the identitaires movements, Jobbik and cohorts, are not about to come to power in any European nation anyway.

Do you think FN counts as far right?

[Olerand]

The far-right, as in the identitaires movements, Jobbik and cohorts, are not about to come to power in any European nation anyway.

Do you think FN counts as far right?

No, the FN is radical right. Far-right groups exist in France, but are minor, like the far-left.

EDIT: A leading figure of the far-right in France: Serge Ayoub.