You reap what you sow? Mass sexual assault in Germany

[Vassenor]

But yes, if I'm toxic for saying that race should not be a factor in the administration of justice, then so be it.

it has nothing to do with race...it's morals, the people coming to germany aren't exactly known for peace loving antics, they are highly conservative and traditionalist with a record of abuse of women and civil rights. Just because they are fleeing ISIS does NOT mean they have abandoned this stance. To assume they are not this way is down right dangerous and naive. Understanding their culture will do wonders for society and allow us to fight back against the bad parts of it.

Then the solution is education and rehabilitation. Not further ostracisation.

[North Calaveras]

it has nothing to do with race...it's morals, the people coming to germany aren't exactly known for peace loving antics, they are highly conservative and traditionalist with a record of abuse of women and civil rights. Just because they are fleeing ISIS does NOT mean they have abandoned this stance. To assume they are not this way is down right dangerous and naive. Understanding their culture will do wonders for society and allow us to fight back against the bad parts of it.

Then the solution is education and rehabilitation. Not further ostracisation.

why should we educate and rehabilitate these people? who should pay for this? why is it our responsibility?

the reason why your getting some radical right-wing backlash is the same reason we get islamic backlash, people arn't understanding the problem.

as bad as some of these far right groups are, clearly there is an issue with these immigrants, when your not listening to your people you going to get nationalist tendencys, the same with islam, if you blow up a mosque your just recruiting people.

[Vassenor]

Then the solution is education and rehabilitation. Not further ostracisation.

why should we educate and rehabilitate these people? who should pay for this? why is it our responsibility?

the reason why your getting some radical right-wing backlash is the same reason we get islamic backlash, people arn't understanding the problem.

as bad as some of these far right groups are, clearly there is an issue with these immigrants, when your not listening to your people you going to get nationalist tendencys, the same with islam, if you blow up a mosque your just recruiting people.

So what do you propose then?

[Unnamed island state]

Then the solution is education and rehabilitation. Not further ostracisation.

why should we educate and rehabilitate these people? who should pay for this? why is it our responsibility?

To make the world a better and less problematic place?

[Alsheb]

it's more like if the President gave an executive order granting Alabama biblical law after a nasty dispute over sales tax.

sure it can go like that to, it's shitty no matter how it's dealt.

Islam is simply the biggest problem in the world today in terms of terrorism, especially with the cluster fuck that is the war on terror.

in the cold war it was communist inssurection

we just need to accept that Islam is causing the problems these days in regards to terrorism, the daily attacks and mass casualties on a global level are obvious, yeah america has more attacks by christians...in america but that's just one country.

Yeah, let's just forget the fact that the US by itself has killed close to a million people in the last decade alone...
Surely, Islam has caused the most deaths...

[Kubra]

yeah, and it ain't so bad of one. Definitely within tolerable limits.

define tolerable, is 9/11 tolerable? hezoballah bombing tolerable? mass executions in syria and iraq tolerable? the body count is a lot higher than it would seem.

Yeah, the viet-cong did their shit, but mostly kept to their own country, they didn't take over vietnam then proceed to destroy everyone around them before launching sneak attacks into the US and euro nations.

yep, pretty much. Certainly more so than the constant threat of tanks rolling through the fulda gap, or playing the good ol' draft lottery. That all probably sucked. A lot.
Aw, what century goes by without a few mass executions? Look on the bright side, no Rwandas. Yet.

[Alsheb]

aw it's not so bad, insofar as modern includes the post-war 20th century.

it's not so bad?

you have groups like the Islamic state which are huge and practically cover two nations, the Taliban which are trying to grip afghanistan, Hamas, Hezoballah, al-quada, boko haram the numerous other groups.

all groups with good funding and relatviley large numbers who are organized, with some like ISIS activley engaging people overseas in other places with ruthless efficeny.

not to mention the daily attacks where 30-50 people are erased in car bombs etc etc.

and it dosn't matter if it's against other muslims, there both islamic.

Don't compare Hamas and Hezbollah with groups such as the Taliban and Daesh, please. It only makes you look ignorant.

[North Calaveras]

sure it can go like that to, it's shitty no matter how it's dealt.

Islam is simply the biggest problem in the world today in terms of terrorism, especially with the cluster fuck that is the war on terror.

in the cold war it was communist inssurection

we just need to accept that Islam is causing the problems these days in regards to terrorism, the daily attacks and mass casualties on a global level are obvious, yeah america has more attacks by christians...in america but that's just one country.

Yeah, let's just forget the fact that the US by itself has killed close to a million people in the last decade alone...
Surely, Islam has caused the most deaths...

here we go, wanna throw israel in their to?


I could care less, we are relativity free nations, and we may over step our boundrys but at the end of the day our people are free. Id rather live in the US than Saudi Arabia any day, regardless if saudi arabia has killed less people in the last decade.

[Alsheb]

But yes, if I'm toxic for saying that race should not be a factor in the administration of justice, then so be it.

it has nothing to do with race...it's morals, the people coming to germany aren't exactly known for peace loving antics, they are highly conservative and traditionalist with a record of abuse of women and civil rights. Just because they are fleeing ISIS does NOT mean they have abandoned this stance. To assume they are not this way is down right dangerous and naive. Understanding their culture will do wonders for society and allow us to fight back against the bad parts of it.

And yet, you fail to grasp anything of let's say Syrian or Iraqi culture and society. Two countries whose populations have lived for decades under a secular system.

[North Calaveras]

it's not so bad?

you have groups like the Islamic state which are huge and practically cover two nations, the Taliban which are trying to grip afghanistan, Hamas, Hezoballah, al-quada, boko haram the numerous other groups.

all groups with good funding and relatviley large numbers who are organized, with some like ISIS activley engaging people overseas in other places with ruthless efficeny.

not to mention the daily attacks where 30-50 people are erased in car bombs etc etc.

and it dosn't matter if it's against other muslims, there both islamic.

Don't compare Hamas and Hezbollah with groups such as the Taliban and Daesh, please. It only makes you look ignorant.

there all islamic, it's not ignorant, they may be differen't sects and they may fight eachother, but they still have greater enemies they work against(like the west, though some exception like the taliban are more focused on afghanistan)

[Ostroeuropa]

why should we educate and rehabilitate these people? who should pay for this? why is it our responsibility?

To make the world a better and less problematic place?

Fallacious thinking. Our resources and time can be better spent elsewhere.

[Alsheb]

Don't compare Hamas and Hezbollah with groups such as the Taliban and Daesh, please. It only makes you look ignorant.

there all islamic, it's not ignorant, they may be differen't sects and they may fight eachother, but they still have greater enemies they work against(like the west, though some exception like the taliban are more focused on afghanistan)

Hamas and Hezbollah are political parties with an armed wing, that are both concentrated on their own countries and the armed struggle against those occupying said countries. They have nothing to do with international terrorist groups such as IS or backwards mountain dwelling lunatics such as the Taliban.

[Alsheb]

To make the world a better and less problematic place?

Fallacious thinking. Our resources and time can be better spent elsewhere.

Like what? Just blaming Islam and be done with it isn't going to solve anything either now, is it?

[Ostroeuropa]

there all islamic, it's not ignorant, they may be differen't sects and they may fight eachother, but they still have greater enemies they work against(like the west, though some exception like the taliban are more focused on afghanistan)

Hamas and Hezbollah are political parties with an armed wing, that are both concentrated on their own countries and the armed struggle against those occupying said countries. They have nothing to do with international terrorist groups such as IS or backwards mountain dwelling lunatics such as the Taliban.

Yes they do. They legitimize the notion of Islamic Theology being a justification for violence.

[North Calaveras]

there all islamic, it's not ignorant, they may be differen't sects and they may fight eachother, but they still have greater enemies they work against(like the west, though some exception like the taliban are more focused on afghanistan)

Hamas and Hezbollah are political parties with an armed wing, that are both concentrated on their own countries and the armed struggle against those occupying said countries. They have nothing to do with international terrorist groups such as IS or backwards mountain dwelling lunatics such as the Taliban.

It dosn't matter, groups like hamas would wipe the jewish people off the earth if given the opportunity. They are all in the same boat.

I have the eerie feeling your trying to make hamas and Hezbollah as righteous freedom fighters...they are not for freedom by any means.

[Alsheb]

Yeah, let's just forget the fact that the US by itself has killed close to a million people in the last decade alone...
Surely, Islam has caused the most deaths...

here we go, wanna throw israel in their to?


I could care less, we are relativity free nations, and we may over step our boundrys but at the end of the day our people are free. Id rather live in the US than Saudi Arabia any day, regardless if saudi arabia has killed less people in the last decade.

Glad to see you admit that you simply don't care about a million or more non-white human lives. Makes it so much more easier to grasp what sort of person I'm talking to. I'll keep it in mind.

[Unnamed island state]

To make the world a better and less problematic place?

Fallacious thinking. Our resources and time can be better spent elsewhere.

Integrating minorities and/or social engineering is helpful.

[North Calaveras]

here we go, wanna throw israel in their to?


I could care less, we are relativity free nations, and we may over step our boundrys but at the end of the day our people are free. Id rather live in the US than Saudi Arabia any day, regardless if saudi arabia has killed less people in the last decade.

Glad to see you admit that you simply don't care about a million or more non-white human lives. Makes it so much more easier to grasp what sort of person I'm talking to. I'll keep it in mind.

please prove everything you just said before dropping the silly ass race card, everything I said involves religion not race, i could care less how brown someone is(my husband is mexican for gods sake).

[Alsheb]

Hamas and Hezbollah are political parties with an armed wing, that are both concentrated on their own countries and the armed struggle against those occupying said countries. They have nothing to do with international terrorist groups such as IS or backwards mountain dwelling lunatics such as the Taliban.

Yes they do. They legitimize the notion of Islamic Theology being a justification for violence.

No, they legitimise the notion of national liberation as a justification for violence. The fact that they adhere to an Islam-inspired political ideology is not the cause of them being violent. The pioneer organisation for violent resistance in Palestine was Fatah, a movement that wasn't religiously inspired at all. Hamas or Hezbollah did not invent the concept of armed resistance.

[Ostroeuropa]

Fallacious thinking. Our resources and time can be better spent elsewhere.

Integrating minorities and/or social engineering is helpful.

I didn't deny as much. It simply isn't the best way to spend resources to create the problem of backward minorities by allowing them to immigrate, then throwing money and time at them until they become less backward.
Hurray!
We solved the problem we caused!

[North Calaveras]

Yes they do. They legitimize the notion of Islamic Theology being a justification for violence.

No, they legitimise the notion of national liberation as a justification for violence. The fact that they adhere to an Islam-inspired political ideology is not the cause of them being violent. The pioneer organisation for violent resistance in Palestine was Fatah, a movement that wasn't religiously inspired at all. Hamas or Hezbollah did not invent the concept of armed resistance.

they want national liberation for ISLAMIC REASONS.

[Vassenor]

No, they legitimise the notion of national liberation as a justification for violence. The fact that they adhere to an Islam-inspired political ideology is not the cause of them being violent. The pioneer organisation for violent resistance in Palestine was Fatah, a movement that wasn't religiously inspired at all. Hamas or Hezbollah did not invent the concept of armed resistance.

they want national liberation for ISLAMIC REASONS.

And what reasons would those be?

[Alsheb]

Glad to see you admit that you simply don't care about a million or more non-white human lives. Makes it so much more easier to grasp what sort of person I'm talking to. I'll keep it in mind.

please prove everything you just said before dropping the silly ass race card, everything I said involves religion not race, i could care less how brown someone is(my husband is mexican for gods sake).

Let's quote yourself, shall we?

"I could care less". That was your reply to my statement of a million people being massacred by US imperialism.
Not even an attempt to deny or downplay it. Just the fact that you don't care about a million Iraqis and Afghans who died under the US bootheel.

Seriously, thanks. You're making this way too easy for me.

[Ostroeuropa]

here we go, wanna throw israel in their to?


I could care less, we are relativity free nations, and we may over step our boundrys but at the end of the day our people are free. Id rather live in the US than Saudi Arabia any day, regardless if saudi arabia has killed less people in the last decade.

Glad to see you admit that you simply don't care about a million or more non-white human lives. Makes it so much more easier to grasp what sort of person I'm talking to. I'll keep it in mind.

Because as we all know, the west wouldn't flip it's shit and go crazy about a bunch of Japanese or South Korean people dying.
Whine about race some more, go ahead. it just reveals you don't have an argument other than SJW tactics.

The fact they aren't white is not relevant.

[North Calaveras]

they want national liberation for ISLAMIC REASONS.

And what reasons would those be?

Article 1 describes Hamas as an Islamic Resistance Movement with an ideological programme of Islam.[21]
Article 2 of Hamas' Charter defines Hamas as a "universal movement" and "one of the branches of the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine".[17][21][22][23]
Article 3 the Movement consists of "Muslims who have given their allegiance to Allah".[21]
Article 4 the Movement "welcomes every Muslim who embraces its faith, ideology, follows its programme, keeps its secrets, and wants to belong to its ranks and carry out the duty."[21]
Article 5 Demonstrates its Salafist roots and connections to the Muslim brotherhood. [21]
Article 6 Hamas is uniquely Palestinian,[24] and "strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine, for under the wing of Islam followers of all religions can coexist in security and safety where their lives, possessions and rights are concerned."[17][21]
Article 7 describes Hamas as "one of the links in the chain of the struggle against the Zionist invaders" and links the movement to the followers of the religious and nationalist hero Izz ad-Din al-Qassam.[21][23]
Article 8 The Hamas document reiterates the Muslim Brotherhood's slogan of "Allah is its goal, the Prophet is the model, the Qur'an its constitution, jihad its path, and death for the sake of Allah its most sublime belief."[17][21]
Article 9 adapts Muslim Brotherhood's vision to connect the Palestinian crisis with the Islamic solution and advocates "fighting against the false, defeating it and vanquishing it so that justice could prevail".[21]
Article 11 Palestine is sacred (waqf) for all Muslims for all time, and it cannot be relinquished by anyone.[21]
Article 12 affirms that "Nationalism, from the point of view of the Islamic Resistance Movement, is part of the religious creed" .[21]
Article 13 There is no negotiated settlement possible. Jihad is the only answer.[21]
Article 14 The liberation of Palestine is the personal duty of every Palestinian.[21]
Article 15 "The day that enemies usurp part of Muslim land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Muslim". It states the history of crusades into Muslim lands and says the "Palestinian problem is a religious problem".[21]
Article 16 Describes how to go about educating future generations.[21]
Article 20 Calls for action "by the people as a single body" against "a vicious enemy which acts in a way similar to Nazism, making no differentiation between man and woman, between children and old people".[21]
Article 22 Makes sweeping claims about Jewish influence and power. [21][25]
Article 28 Conspiracy charges against Israel and the whole of the Jewish people: "Israel, Judaism and Jews".[21][25]
Article 31 Describes Hamas as "a humanistic movement", which "takes care of human rights and is guided by Islamic tolerance when dealing with the followers of other religions". "Under the wing of Islam", it is possible for Islam, Christianity and Judaism "to coexist in peace and quiet with each other" provided that members of other religions do not dispute the sovereignty of Islam in the region.[21]
Article 32 Hamas condemns as co-plotters the “imperialistic powers”.[25] References The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.[21][26]