You reap what you sow? Mass sexual assault in Germany

[Kubra]

it's more like if the President gave an executive order granting Alabama biblical law after a nasty dispute over sales tax.

sure it can go like that to, it's shitty no matter how it's dealt.

Islam is simply the biggest problem in the world today in terms of terrorism, especially with the cluster fuck that is the war on terror.

in the cold war it was communist inssurection

we just need to accept that Islam is causing the problems these days in regards to terrorism, the daily attacks and mass casualties on a global level are obvious, yeah america has more attacks by christians...in america but that's just one country.

sure it's all shitty, but each scenario is shitty in its own unique way. What occurred in Indonesia is something that happened all across the " Islamic" world during the cold war, secular nationalist were put in crosshairs cuz they favoured the Soviets and the nasserists after the soviets broke off with the Israelis. Wasn't a bad reason to go after em, but it's made things slightly inconvient for us.

[Ostroeuropa]

You could just drop the pretenses and admit you don't actually have any real criticism.

So why are you so desperate to see human rights stripped from minority groups you do not like?

Why are you so desperate for women to be raped and transgender people stoned to death?
See? We can pull this shit too.

[North Calaveras]

sure it can go like that to, it's shitty no matter how it's dealt.

Islam is simply the biggest problem in the world today in terms of terrorism, especially with the cluster fuck that is the war on terror.

in the cold war it was communist inssurection

we just need to accept that Islam is causing the problems these days in regards to terrorism, the daily attacks and mass casualties on a global level are obvious, yeah america has more attacks by christians...in america but that's just one country.

sure it's all shitty, but each scenario is shitty in its own unique way. What occurred in Indonesia is something that happened all across the " Islamic" world during the cold war, secular nationalist were put in crosshairs cuz they favoured the Soviets and the nasserists after the soviets broke off with the Israelis. Wasn't a bad reason to go after em, but it's made things slightly inconvient for us.

All im here to do is put things in perspective.

[Vassenor]

So why are you so desperate to see human rights stripped from minority groups you do not like?

Why are you so desperate for women to be raped and transgender people stoned to death?
See? We can pull this shit too.

Why are you so desperate to put words in my mouth?

People are more than capable of defending their own points should they choose to. They don't need you charging in here trying to shunt people out of the debate for disagreeing.

[Ostroeuropa]

Why are you so desperate for women to be raped and transgender people stoned to death?
See? We can pull this shit too.

Why are you so desperate to put words in my mouth?

The point ->
Your head ->

[North Calaveras]

Why are you so desperate for women to be raped and transgender people stoned to death?
See? We can pull this shit too.

Why are you so desperate to put words in my mouth?

People are more than capable of defending their own points should they choose to. They don't need you charging in here trying to shunt people out of the debate for disagreeing.

what you did certainly was contributing, it was a gauthier tactic " Oh you just hate brown people"

[Kubra]

sure it's all shitty, but each scenario is shitty in its own unique way. What occurred in Indonesia is something that happened all across the " Islamic" world during the cold war, secular nationalist were put in crosshairs cuz they favoured the Soviets and the nasserists after the soviets broke off with the Israelis. Wasn't a bad reason to go after em, but it's made things slightly inconvient for us.

All im here to do is put things in perspective.

hey man so am I
Especially the bit where I say that Islamic terrorism ain't that bad, with consideration of previous world conflicts. Less money flowing from world powers these days.

[Ostroeuropa]

People are more than capable of defending their own points should they choose to. They don't need you charging in here trying to shunt people out of the debate for disagreeing.

No, that's okay, i'm fine with people ganging up on SJWs being SJWs. When you pull this shit, I want people to post about how you're debating poorly and being abusive.

[North Calaveras]

All im here to do is put things in perspective.

hey man so am I
Especially the bit where I say that Islamic terrorism ain't that bad, with consideration of previous world conflicts. Less money flowing from world powers these days.

that depends, in terms of TERRORISM and insurrection it's atrocious in the modern world, by far dwaring other groups and is far more organized.

[Vassenor]

...blaming a person for their actions rather than blaming one thing about them makes me an SJW?

[The Nuclear Fist]

You could just drop the pretenses and admit you don't actually have any real criticism.

So why are you so desperate to see human rights stripped from minority groups you do not like?

More baseless, vapid claims. I don't care that they're minorities, they're only in the West because of threats against their civil rights. But if they're violating the laws of their host nations, and especially violating the rights of others (such as the refugees that committed the Cologne attack), then they have demonstrated an apathy towards the actual well being of their host nation, the laws of their host nation, and the well being and rights of those around them. If they are not willing to respect their host nation and its citizens, they should have no right to be there at all, and the host nation should have no obligation to let them stay. Let them contemplate the plight of the poor, innocent refugee criminal in whatever smoldering sandbox they slithered out of.

I'm not saying deport all refugees, some of them very well deserve a place in our societies. The ones that face death in their home nations (like the LGBT or religious minorities in the middle east, for example) definitely deserve a spot, provided they integrate and behave. But "follow the law and respect the rights of citizens" is not a high bar for incoming refugees, it is an entirely reasonable expectation for those who are only in Europe because of the kindness of their host nation. If they are not willing to meet that expectation, that kindness should be withdrawn.

[Kubra]

hey man so am I
Especially the bit where I say that Islamic terrorism ain't that bad, with consideration of previous world conflicts. Less money flowing from world powers these days.

that depends, in terms of TERRORISM and insurrection it's atrocious in the modern world, by far dwaring other groups and is far more organized.

aw it's not so bad, insofar as modern includes the post-war 20th century.

[Vassenor]

So why are you so desperate to see human rights stripped from minority groups you do not like?

More baseless, vapid claims. I don't care that they're minorities, they're only in the West because of threats against their civil rights. But if they're violating the laws of their host nations, and especially violating the rights of others (such as the refugees that committed the Cologne attack), then they have demonstrated an apathy towards the actual well being of their host nation, the laws of their host nation, and the well being and rights of those around them. If they are not willing to respect their host nation and its citizens, they should have no right to be there at all, and the host nation should have no obligation to let them stay. Let them contemplate the plight of the poor, innocent refugee criminal in whatever smoldering sandbox they slithered out of.

I'm not saying deport all refugees, some of them very well deserve a place in our societies. The ones that face death in their home nations (like the LGBT or religious minorities in the middle east, for example) definitely deserve a spot, provided they integrate and behave. But "follow the law and respect the rights of citizens" is not a high bar for incoming refugees, it is an entirely reasonable expectation for those who are only in Europe because of the kindness of their host nation. If they are not willing to meet that expectation, that kindness should be withdrawn.

See, this is the sort of response I was waiting for when I posed the question, not some vapid buzzword laden smugness.

[The Nuclear Fist]

More baseless, vapid claims. I don't care that they're minorities, they're only in the West because of threats against their civil rights. But if they're violating the laws of their host nations, and especially violating the rights of others (such as the refugees that committed the Cologne attack), then they have demonstrated an apathy towards the actual well being of their host nation, the laws of their host nation, and the well being and rights of those around them. If they are not willing to respect their host nation and its citizens, they should have no right to be there at all, and the host nation should have no obligation to let them stay. Let them contemplate the plight of the poor, innocent refugee criminal in whatever smoldering sandbox they slithered out of.

I'm not saying deport all refugees, some of them very well deserve a place in our societies. The ones that face death in their home nations (like the LGBT or religious minorities in the middle east, for example) definitely deserve a spot, provided they integrate and behave. But "follow the law and respect the rights of citizens" is not a high bar for incoming refugees, it is an entirely reasonable expectation for those who are only in Europe because of the kindness of their host nation. If they are not willing to meet that expectation, that kindness should be withdrawn.

See, this is the sort of response I was waiting for when I posed the question, not some vapid buzzword laden smugness.

Given that your go to response is to squeal "racism", I'm not so sure you're in a position to be judging others.

[North Calaveras]

that depends, in terms of TERRORISM and insurrection it's atrocious in the modern world, by far dwaring other groups and is far more organized.

aw it's not so bad, insofar as modern includes the post-war 20th century.

it's not so bad?

you have groups like the Islamic state which are huge and practically cover two nations, the Taliban which are trying to grip afghanistan, Hamas, Hezoballah, al-quada, boko haram the numerous other groups.

all groups with good funding and relatviley large numbers who are organized, with some like ISIS activley engaging people overseas in other places with ruthless efficeny.

not to mention the daily attacks where 30-50 people are erased in car bombs etc etc.

and it dosn't matter if it's against other muslims, there both islamic.

[Ostroeuropa]

More baseless, vapid claims. I don't care that they're minorities, they're only in the West because of threats against their civil rights. But if they're violating the laws of their host nations, and especially violating the rights of others (such as the refugees that committed the Cologne attack), then they have demonstrated an apathy towards the actual well being of their host nation, the laws of their host nation, and the well being and rights of those around them. If they are not willing to respect their host nation and its citizens, they should have no right to be there at all, and the host nation should have no obligation to let them stay. Let them contemplate the plight of the poor, innocent refugee criminal in whatever smoldering sandbox they slithered out of.

I'm not saying deport all refugees, some of them very well deserve a place in our societies. The ones that face death in their home nations (like the LGBT or religious minorities in the middle east, for example) definitely deserve a spot, provided they integrate and behave. But "follow the law and respect the rights of citizens" is not a high bar for incoming refugees, it is an entirely reasonable expectation for those who are only in Europe because of the kindness of their host nation. If they are not willing to meet that expectation, that kindness should be withdrawn.

See, this is the sort of response I was waiting for when I posed the question, not some vapid buzzword laden smugness.

Considering your post was accusing him of racism on no grounds, and SJW isn't a buzzword, but a person who uses a set of tactics that are cancerous to civil debate and society, I don't think you have much to stand on here when it comes to smugness.

You threw out an accusation like that with no basis and got called on it. Now you're whining about being called on it because you're upset i'm pointing out to everyone that you throw out abusive accusations in order to try and scare people into disagreeing with you.

You and others like you who have infested our institutions are the reason these women got raped, as well as the reason for the rotherham rapes and such. You STILL havn't gotten the message yet that you're damaging society by stifling conversation on these topics, how many times do police forces and such need to drop the ball and then admit it's because they were scared of people like you before you realize your behavior is regressive?

I'm happy to sit here and consistently point out how intellectually and morally bankrupt SJWism is, until you stop doing it or until doing it makes people angry at you instead of afraid of you. If you want to whine about buzzwords in response, that's fine. I don't see that convincing anyone.

[Faustian Fantasies]

I completely agree with Osto in this case.

Vassenor, it's possible to disagree with somebody without trying to shame them. Especially when you do it erroneously.

[Vassenor]

You still haven't explained how I fit into the SJW category.

And I'm pretty sure I've called for the individuals involved to be tried like anyone else charged with rape, so I fail to see how I'm trying to use race as an excusing factor.

[North Calaveras]

You still haven't explained how I fit into the SJW category.

well the whole "brown people" comment is pretty popular with that bunch

[Kubra]

aw it's not so bad, insofar as modern includes the post-war 20th century.

it's not so bad?

you have groups like the Islamic state which are huge and practically cover two nations, the Taliban which are trying to grip afghanistan, Hamas, Hezoballah, al-quada, boko haram the numerous other groups.

all groups with good funding and relatviley large numbers who are organized, with some like ISIS activley engaging people overseas in other places with ruthless efficeny.

not to mention the daily attacks where 30-50 people are erased in car bombs etc etc.

and it dosn't matter if it's against other muslims, there both islamic.

30-50 in a car bomb? Drop in the bucket. When Hezbollah first pioneered the tactical, they were able to get twice that with regularity.

Gulf money is good money, but it ain't Soviet or American money. Back in the heydays of the cold war they threw that shit at anyone who asked nicely enough.

Taliban arsenals have dwindled somewhat from the time in which they could rely on American support. They ain't got much in the way of anti-air and anti-tanl capabilities as they used to have.

Like yo, back in the 60s Paris as having bombings on a weekly basis, all very bloody, and there's more than a few genocides we can name in the post war period. Not this century! Yet!

[North Calaveras]

it's not so bad?

you have groups like the Islamic state which are huge and practically cover two nations, the Taliban which are trying to grip afghanistan, Hamas, Hezoballah, al-quada, boko haram the numerous other groups.

all groups with good funding and relatviley large numbers who are organized, with some like ISIS activley engaging people overseas in other places with ruthless efficeny.

not to mention the daily attacks where 30-50 people are erased in car bombs etc etc.

and it dosn't matter if it's against other muslims, there both islamic.

30-50 in a car bomb? Drop in the bucket. When Hezbollah first pioneered the tactical, they were able to get twice that with regularity.

Gulf money is good money, but it ain't Soviet or American money. Back in the heydays of the cold war they threw that shit at anyone who asked nicely enough.

Taliban arsenals have dwindled somewhat from the time in which they could rely on American support. They ain't got much in the way of anti-air and anti-tanl capabilities as they used to have.

Like yo, back in the 60s Paris as having bombings on a weekly basis, all very bloody, and there's more than a few genocides we can name in the post war period. Not this century! Yet!

this all points towards my point, yes during the cold war the communists had a bit more going for them. But this isn't the world we live in, the world we live in Islamic terrorism is the main threat.

[Vassenor]

But yes, if I'm toxic for saying that race should not be a factor in the administration of justice, and that a person's ethnicity should not earn them a free pass, then so be it.

[North Calaveras]

But yes, if I'm toxic for saying that race should not be a factor in the administration of justice, then so be it.

it has nothing to do with race...it's morals, the people coming to germany aren't exactly known for peace loving antics, they are highly conservative and traditionalist with a record of abuse of women and civil rights. Just because they are fleeing ISIS does NOT mean they have abandoned this stance. To assume they are not this way is down right dangerous and naive. Understanding their culture will do wonders for society and allow us to fight back against the bad parts of it.

[Kubra]

30-50 in a car bomb? Drop in the bucket. When Hezbollah first pioneered the tactical, they were able to get twice that with regularity.

Gulf money is good money, but it ain't Soviet or American money. Back in the heydays of the cold war they threw that shit at anyone who asked nicely enough.

Taliban arsenals have dwindled somewhat from the time in which they could rely on American support. They ain't got much in the way of anti-air and anti-tanl capabilities as they used to have.

Like yo, back in the 60s Paris as having bombings on a weekly basis, all very bloody, and there's more than a few genocides we can name in the post war period. Not this century! Yet!

this all points towards my point, yes during the cold war the communists had a bit more going for them. But this isn't the world we live in, the world we live in Islamic terrorism is the main threat.

yeah, and it ain't so bad of one. Definitely within tolerable limits.

[North Calaveras]

this all points towards my point, yes during the cold war the communists had a bit more going for them. But this isn't the world we live in, the world we live in Islamic terrorism is the main threat.

yeah, and it ain't so bad of one. Definitely within tolerable limits.

define tolerable, is 9/11 tolerable? hezoballah bombing tolerable? mass executions in syria and iraq tolerable? the body count is a lot higher than it would seem.

Yeah, the viet-cong did their shit, but mostly kept to their own country, they didn't take over vietnam then proceed to destroy everyone around them before launching sneak attacks into the US and euro nations.