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Postby Unnamed island state » Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:04 pm

Novus America wrote:
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You´re not adressing the reason why the French government has to post soldiers in front of synagogues, while the American one doesn´t.


That is the point. They should create policies so that they do not have to put them there in the first place.

Anti Semitism is why they are there. Reducing antisemitism needs to be done.


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Postby Tahar Joblis » Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:18 pm

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Esternial wrote:As relevant as the sugar content of one single fruit loop in your bowl.

Most normal people care about the sugar content of everything in their bowl. If you haven't caught on yet, I'm saying relationships between everyone and everyone in Europe is relevant. Makes no sense to focus on one particular group save for making an attempt at a weak argument for something nobody cares about (e.g. your response to how "that's the same thing they said about letting in the jews" is somehow wrong because jews probably don't like harassment by muslims either).

Really now. Do you enjoy 'winning' arguments about non-issues?


Okay, but there is also something very wrong with the European bowl's sugar content.
Again there is a middle ground between blaming all immigrants and denying a problem exists.
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I find it remarkable that I had no idea that the most common target of hate crimes in France are Jews.

In my defense, there aren't very many of them. France is a majority-Catholic country with a sizable Muslim minority, a slightly more ambiguously sized secular minority (since some nominal Catholics may be essentially nonreligious), a shockingly small number of Protestants, and a tiny minority of Jews (around 1%).

Also, France doesn't exactly have a long and storied history of antisemitism in the post-Revolution era. French Jews mostly survived in Vichy France, because they were seen as French first and Jewish second, in contrast to, say, Polish Jews (who were seen as Jewish first and Polish second). France's home-grown nationalist types that don't like Jews mostly also don't like Muslims (which are more common and more visible targets for aggression).

Especially given how much time has been devoted to the news cycles over friction between Muslims and secular and/or Catholic French, I think I can be forgiven for not expecting it. And it's even the sort of thing that I ought to have been hearing about. Hate crimes are pretty sensational, and it's usually a good opportunity to compare people to Nazis. Everybody loves a good instance of Godwin's Law, especially on the news cycle.

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Postby Baltenstein » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:24 pm

Also, France doesn't exactly have a long and storied history of antisemitism in the post-Revolution era


Unfortunately, it did. France in the 19th century was somewhat infamous for its widespread antisemitism, producing one anti-Jewish conspiracy theory after another and exporting them to neighbor countries, including, darkly ironically, Germany. Joseph Artur de Gobineau and the Dreyfuss affair come to mind.

This has little to do with the fact that the majority of anti-semitic hate crimes in France today is carried out by Muslims however.
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Postby Arkinesia » Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:50 am

Saiwania wrote:[I think it is an outrage that Sweden's government is more on the side of immigrants than they are of native Swedish citizens. This is why it is morally right to overthrow Sweden's government with force if necessary. It is a wonder how the Swedish Social Democratic Party and the Green Party keep getting elected. All of their power needs to be taken away before they can continue to keep doing more damage to that country.

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Postby Alsheb » Sat Jan 16, 2016 3:06 am

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No, that would be a terrible idea; What's the obsession with sending criminals back anyway? Whatever happened to just friggin' punishing them in court of law and putting them in jail? Why do people honestly think it's a good idea to repatriate rapists and murderers and releasing them into a population that is already suffering under war and famine?


Because they are not citizens of any European country?

Gee, who wouldve thought that non citizens get deported to the country they came from?

Yeah, I'm sure the population of countries like Syria and Afghanistan really appreciate the fact that you're going to release rapists in their midst... But hey, crimes are okay as long as it's not in Europe, amirite.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Jan 16, 2016 3:20 am

Alsheb wrote:Yeah, I'm sure the population of countries like Syria and Afghanistan really appreciate the fact that you're going to release rapists in their midst... But hey, crimes are okay as long as it's not in Europe, amirite.


Afghanistan's own legal system doesn't punish rape, instead rapists in Afghanistan have to marry their victim at worst. And marital rape is definitely legal there. So I guess they'd be right at home so to speak.
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Postby Pulau Singapura » Sat Jan 16, 2016 3:21 am

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Alsheb wrote:Yeah, I'm sure the population of countries like Syria and Afghanistan really appreciate the fact that you're going to release rapists in their midst... But hey, crimes are okay as long as it's not in Europe, amirite.


Afghanistan's own legal system doesn't punish rape, instead rapists in Afghanistan have to marry their victim. And marital rape is definitely legal there.

And the weirdest country award officially goes to...
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Jan 16, 2016 3:30 am

Pulau Singapura wrote:And the weirdest country award officially goes to...


It isn't weird so much as it is Afghanistan following a regressive form of Islam. Women are valued for their virginity in Afghanistan and to preserve their family's honor, that means her marrying the man who raped her.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/22/world ... stan-rape/

Article 132 of this law in Afghanistan stipulates that: a man can expect to have sex with his wife at least "once every four nights" when traveling, unless they are ill. Women are to obey the sexual demands of their husbands and men are to get preferential inheritance rights, easier access to divorce, and priority in court.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 58049.html
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Jan 16, 2016 3:32 am

Pulau Singapura wrote:
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Afghanistan's own legal system doesn't punish rape, instead rapists in Afghanistan have to marry their victim. And marital rape is definitely legal there.

And the weirdest country award officially goes to...

That's Biblical law as well you know.
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:25 am

Interesting, and those articles came from respectable newspaper with a history of impartial reporting, rather than racist scare-mongering tabloids seeking to increase its sales by writing sensationalist stories like two headed babies and arabs under your bed ready to rape you in the name of Allah?

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Postby Alsheb » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:00 am

Saiwania wrote:
Alsheb wrote:Yeah, I'm sure the population of countries like Syria and Afghanistan really appreciate the fact that you're going to release rapists in their midst... But hey, crimes are okay as long as it's not in Europe, amirite.


Afghanistan's own legal system doesn't punish rape, instead rapists in Afghanistan have to marry their victim at worst. And marital rape is definitely legal there. So I guess they'd be right at home so to speak.

I see you choose to lie again. Guess I shouldn't be surprised.
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Postby Aelex » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:01 am

Novus America wrote:The action to is not working. Soldiers in front of Synagogues hardly makes for a welcoming environment, no? There are no soldiers outside American or Canadian Synagogues. Reactionary policies are just addressing the symptom, not the disease.

Anti Semitism is a problem, yes. It needs to be adressed.

Baltimore city has bad crime. People fled. Why? Because we chose shitty drug, social and economic policies.

The government is responsible for the failures of its policies.

Thus I guess it's the American government which is responsible for the racist killing of blacks, not the racists cops who think they can shot "negroes" and have nothing happening to them? :eyebrow:

Anyway, you're once more missing the point. If the Government need to put soldiers to protect the jews, it's because of the antisemitism of one particular group of the population aka the muslims, and especially the young ones living in the banlieux, which is becoming more and more violent and tangible.
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Novus America wrote:The action to is not working. Soldiers in front of Synagogues hardly makes for a welcoming environment, no? There are no soldiers outside American or Canadian Synagogues. Reactionary policies are just addressing the symptom, not the disease.

Anti Semitism is a problem, yes. It needs to be adressed.

Baltimore city has bad crime. People fled. Why? Because we chose shitty drug, social and economic policies.

The government is responsible for the failures of its policies.

Thus I guess it's the American government which is responsible for the racist killing of blacks, not the racists cops who think they can shot "negroes" and have nothing happening to them? :eyebrow:

Anyway, you're once more missing the point. If the Government need to put soldiers to protect the jews, it's because of the antisemitism of one particular group of the population aka the muslims, and especially the young ones living in the banlieux, which is becoming more and more violent and tangible.


So, should policemen (or gendarmes or whatever you call them in your weird country) be put in front of Mosque to protect them against the racist demagogues, the racist crowd they gather, and the racist government?

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Postby Marethian Lupanar of Teladre » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:06 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Pulau Singapura wrote:And the weirdest country award officially goes to...

That's Biblical law as well you know.


A ridiculously retarded and clearly unreasonable law, in any way.

As this victimization of blacks, jews, and concern over a group or another over the fact, the problem, and the involved elements themselves.
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Postby Aelex » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:26 am

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:So, should policemen (or gendarmes or whatever you call them in your weird country) be put in front of Mosque to protect them against the racist demagogues, the racist crowd they gather, and the racist government?

They are already soldiers in front of mosque, you know? :)
And, actually; said soldiers have already been attacked.
By a muslim.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:39 am

Aelex wrote:And, actually; said soldiers have already been attacked.
By a muslim.


Tsk, how amateur. The correct procedure for the soldiers would have been shoot to kill if the car was speeding right towards them. If it is found that the driver attended that particular mosque, it is good enough reason to have it permanently shut down or to have the Imam there replaced.
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Postby The Matthew Islands » Sat Jan 16, 2016 6:28 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Pulau Singapura wrote:And the weirdest country award officially goes to...

That's Biblical law as well you know.

Where?
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The Matthew Islands wrote:Where?


All of the Abrahamic religions say bad things about certain subjects if viewed from a current understanding of morality.
In the Bible's case, it is from Mosaic law.

“If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives” (Deuteronomy 22:28–29).
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Postby Baltenstein » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:32 am

Aelex wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:So, should policemen (or gendarmes or whatever you call them in your weird country) be put in front of Mosque to protect them against the racist demagogues, the racist crowd they gather, and the racist government?

They are already soldiers in front of mosque, you know? :)
And, actually; said soldiers have already been attacked.
By a muslim.


Indeed, despite the angry calls about Western Islamophobia, fundamentalists of his own faith actually pose a far greater threat to your average Muslim than anything else.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:38 am



Totally a myth fabricated by the pro-migrant LOOMINATI to make honest European patriots look bad.
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Vassenor wrote:Totally a myth fabricated by the pro-migrant LOOMINATI to make honest European patriots look bad.

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:56 am

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Vassenor wrote:Totally a myth fabricated by the pro-migrant LOOMINATI to make honest European patriots look bad.

Diantre. Hypocrisy is strong today.


No, that's basically exactly what I was told when I mentioned stuff like that happening before.

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Vassenor wrote:Well excuse me for having a problem with PEGIDA and the rest of those neo-Nazi wannabes going around burning people out of their houses. Or because I refuse to treat all migrants as the spawn of Satan just because one internet commented told me to.


Neo-Nazi wannabes going around burning people out of their houses? You're doing exactly what you mentioned by simply swallowing the typical and irrational kind of argument from the average internet humanist/social warrior/victimization queen/pseudo-minority defender with 10 piercings across the face, blue hair who never had to deal with a real problem on their lives regarding assaulters other than feeling OH so violated for being whistled at or not being recognized and valued as a dolphin-kin, while you can see countless videos on Twitter or youtube of immigrant lots mistreating, publicly shaming, spanking and abusing women, coming from a culture that prizes that, specially hookers, which they seem to have a thing for chasing and harassing. Or are you going to say that hookers are less than any other woman?

It's too easy to repeat the same all internet leftist 'alt' kids love to blow off to feed their fake social-ego, as if you -had- to put on the X, Y or Z shirt if you wanted to be this or that, but in real life it's not that easy to have your mother, a sister, or a friend/neighbor raped by a mysogynist, wildly uncontrolled culture and freely agressive alien who obviously preferred to scape into (what once was) a top-notch country and abuse of the government's good will to unleash their own hateful one, instead of putting that same harassing and anarchic effort in trying to fight for their own country.

And if you wanna talk about arson, compare the burning down the legs of 60 or so sexually, calculatedly and violently abused women on the 'safety' of their own country, to a bunch of revolted people (with reason), who started a small fire on an empty house which would ''shelter'' the beasts yet to arrive.
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Postby Novus America » Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:20 am

Aelex wrote:
Novus America wrote:The action to is not working. Soldiers in front of Synagogues hardly makes for a welcoming environment, no? There are no soldiers outside American or Canadian Synagogues. Reactionary policies are just addressing the symptom, not the disease.

Anti Semitism is a problem, yes. It needs to be adressed.

Baltimore city has bad crime. People fled. Why? Because we chose shitty drug, social and economic policies.

The government is responsible for the failures of its policies.

Thus I guess it's the American government which is responsible for the racist killing of blacks, not the racists cops who think they can shot "negroes" and have nothing happening to them? :eyebrow:

Anyway, you're once more missing the point. If the Government need to put soldiers to protect the jews, it's because of the antisemitism of one particular group of the population aka the muslims, and especially the young ones living in the banlieux, which is becoming more and more violent and tangible.


Police policy in the US is higly decentralized unlike France. But yes governments are responsible when they fail to properly manage their police departments. We do not have a single national police nor any unified nation wide police department. Some police departments having problems does not mean most do.

But is the Baltimore government responsible for fucked up police policies? Of course!

Again you are missing the point. The Banlieux are part of France no? France needs to fix them. France is just as responsible for the Banileux as the US is responsible for the problems in our ghettos.
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