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[Chessmistress]

At the time that Mass Draft was made, Women were not seen as people, hence they did not make them sign up for the draft.

True.
But since now women have access even to combat roles, situation has changed.

[New Benian Republic]

At the time that Mass Draft was made, Women were not seen as people, hence they did not make them sign up for the draft.

True.
But since now women have access even to combat roles, situation has changed.

For true equality you guys need to have a draft for all though.

[The Holy Shifty Empire]

True.
But since now women have access even to combat roles, situation has changed.

For true equality you guys need to have a draft for all though.

For true equality they can start with making Physical Performance Testing the exact same between men and women.

[New Benian Republic]

For true equality you guys need to have a draft for all though.

For true equality they can start with making Physical Performance Testing the exact same between men and women.

No you sexist!

[Immoren]

For true equality you guys need to have a draft for all though.

For true equality they can start with making Physical Performance Testing the exact same between men and women.

Clearly soldiers should be turned into human-consciousness-residing-inside-a-robotic-body during the time they serve, so physical issues/differences become moot point.

[Neutraligon]

For true equality you guys need to have a draft for all though.

For true equality they can start with making Physical Performance Testing the exact same between men and women.

For true equality you need to make sure the Physical Performance Test matches what is needed in the combat the person is going into, and then ensure both sexes face the same standard. The same should be true for those entering the armed forces. If women have a lower standard, then either that means that lower standard is sufficient for the armed forces and thus men should also have that standard, or it means women are not meeting the standard necessary for the role and are a danger to their companions.

[Alien Space Bats]

File a class action suit in Federal court. That should solve the problem, one way or another.

[Imperializt Russia]

For true equality they can start with making Physical Performance Testing the exact same between men and women.

Clearly soldiers should be turned into human-consciousness-residing-inside-a-robotic-body during the time they serve, so physical issues/differences become moot point.

XCOM Mec suits for all.

[Galloism]

File a class action suit in Federal court. That should solve the problem, one way or another.

Already being worked on. One of the MRA groups has been backing a case in the courts for a while now, trying to get it to The Nine.

Keeps getting kicked up and down. You know how it goes.

[Neutraligon]

File a class action suit in Federal court. That should solve the problem, one way or another.

Already being worked on. One of the MRA groups has been backing a case in the courts for a while now, trying to get it to The Nine.

Keeps getting kicked up and down. You know how it goes.

Good that someone is actually trying.

[Ashmoria]

Already being worked on. One of the MRA groups has been backing a case in the courts for a while now, trying to get it to The Nine.

Keeps getting kicked up and down. You know how it goes.

Good that someone is actually trying.

yeah but its hard to imagine that they can be successful given the supreme's emphasis on "standing". no one is on the short end of the stick if women don't have to register so how can they bring suit?

[Galloism]

Good that someone is actually trying.

yeah but its hard to imagine that they can be successful given the supreme's emphasis on "standing". no one is on the short end of the stick if women don't have to register so how can they bring suit?

It's a man bringing the suit.

...because men get the short end of the stick.

[Ayreonia]

It's okay, I am.

You'd be wrong. It's absolutely false equivalence.

Farnhamia compared men dying in battle to periods. I pointed out that it's a bit disrespectful. Zero points, go hunt your fallacies elsewhere.

[United States of White America]

Because feminism has poisoned everything. Send everyone to war and fight for their fatherlands, not just men.

[Neutraligon]

Because feminism has poisoned everything. Send everyone to war and fight for their fatherlands, not just men.

So..what does feminism have to do with a draft that was created by men who were not feminists?

[Imperializt Russia]

Because feminism has poisoned everything. Send everyone to war and fight for their fatherlands, not just men.

Why call it a fatherland? Seriously, most countries don't even call themselves fatherlands or motherlands.

Homeland works for everyone.

[Emanita]

yeah but its hard to imagine that they can be successful given the supreme's emphasis on "standing". no one is on the short end of the stick if women don't have to register so how can they bring suit?

It's a man bringing the suit.

...because men get the short end of the stick.

By the Supreme Court's standards: not in the slightest. They generally don't consider hypothetical actions to be sufficient for standing. You need to show that you are indeed injured in order to have standing, and you really cannot do that with a policy that isn't doing anything.

It is the same reason why you will never see a successful legal challenge to the 3/5 clause (which is still in the Constitution): you cannot prove that a hypothetical policy has injured you in any direct way (yes, I know it was once in effect; what I mean is that you cannot legally challenge the fairness of the clause if the clause is doing fuck-all due to the technicality of slavery being illegal; given that selective service and the draft lottery are similarly inert, legal challenges to either have as little weight).

I don't like the idea of it, but I don't like it in the same way I don't like bitter medicine in that it is still a necessity. If injury was not required, then the Supreme Court would be the go-to weapon of changing policy rather than mere judicial review. To change this would require one to severely alter the powers vested in the judicial system, which won't happen in a country where people are paranoid of lawsuits as it is, so trying to get a constitutional amendment which would allow for you to sue on hypothetical grounds would not go over with anybody in the slightest who does not think that radically altering the legal system in order to give their pet cause a chance in court is a good idea.

[Imperializt Russia]

Does the US have judicial review?
I honestly though that was a British or European thing.

[Emanita]

Does the US have judicial review?
I honestly though that was a British or European thing.

The "judicial review" term is often thrown around regarding the judicial system of the United States, though I am not sure how official that terminology is in the context of either the judicial system or legal studies.

[Daffyflippingduck]

Simple. If we all have equal rights, then it is only necessary that we all should be equally serving our country in my opinion. The draft is a horrible thing that either kills you or completely destroys your life upon your return, yet this forced military service is only for males. Why shouldn't women have to sign up for the draft? What are your thoughts on this, NSG?

The dastardly doing of the ever persistent feminazi lobby in washington, no doubt.

Men just can't get a fair shake in the contemporary American political landscape. Feminine privilege rules the day, and we find ourselves pushed further and further into the dirt by the day.

When will men the continent over rise up and take a stand for ourselves against our skirt-clad oppressors?

[Imperializt Russia]

Does the US have judicial review?
I honestly though that was a British or European thing.

The "judicial review" term is often thrown around regarding the judicial system of the United States, though I am not sure how official that terminology is in the context of either the judicial system or legal studies.

iow, it has a process of "judicial review", just that it may or not actually be called "judicial review"?

[Alyakia]

Because feminism has poisoned everything. Send everyone to war and fight for their fatherlands, not just men.

Why call it a fatherland? Seriously, most countries don't even call themselves fatherlands or motherlands.

Homeland works for everyone.

they want to crib 19th century european nationalism because they think it's cool, that's pretty much it

[Emanita]

The "judicial review" term is often thrown around regarding the judicial system of the United States, though I am not sure how official that terminology is in the context of either the judicial system or legal studies.

iow, it has a process of "judicial review", just that it may or not actually be called "judicial review"?

From a glance, it looks as though it has been used in legal contexts as opposed to just legal studies, so I guess that it is official.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Does the US have judicial review?
I honestly though that was a British or European thing.

The Supreme Court often looks at laws to determine if they're unconstitutional. State courts do the same for state constitutions.

[Farnhamia]

Does the US have judicial review?
I honestly though that was a British or European thing.

The Supreme Court often looks at laws to determine if they're unconstitutional. State courts do the same for state constitutions.

But there has to be a case challenging the law first. SCOTUS doesn't just check whatever gets passed for giggles.