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[The Rich Port]

In the way that potentially saves them from bleeding out on a battlefield.

Hell, we bleed out every 28 days. You guys couldn't handle it.

DAS SEXIST.

Also, the irony of a privilege nobody wants...

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Men are expendable. Women can only have more than one baby at a time if you get lucky or something like that.
(I dunno how likely it is to have twins...)

In the way that potentially saves them from bleeding out on a battlefield.

Hell, we bleed out every 28 days. You guys couldn't handle it.

But it's not like you die from recycling a uterine lining...necessarily...

[Farnhamia]

Men are expendable. Women can only have more than one baby at a time if you get lucky or something like that.
(I dunno how likely it is to have twins...)

Hell, we bleed out every 28 days. You guys couldn't handle it.

But it's not like you die from recycling a uterine lining...necessarily...

No, we aren't granted that mercy. We recover and have to do it again and again and again ...

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Hell, we bleed out every 28 days. You guys couldn't handle it.

DAS SEXIST.

Also, the irony of a privilege nobody wants...

If it's too costly to hold, why would anyone wanna carry that hot steaming pile of shit?

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Men are expendable. Women can only have more than one baby at a time if you get lucky or something like that.
(I dunno how likely it is to have twins...)

But it's not like you die from recycling a uterine lining...necessarily...

No, we aren't granted that mercy. We recover and have to do it again and again and again ...

Sounds quite a bit like hell. If it's that bad, one day it might be wise to get around to removing the biological imperative of menstruation.

[The Rich Port]

Men are expendable. Women can only have more than one baby at a time if you get lucky or something like that.
(I dunno how likely it is to have twins...)

Hell, we bleed out every 28 days. You guys couldn't handle it.

But it's not like you die from recycling a uterine lining...necessarily...

Well... You don't necessarily die from getting dismembered by a bomb or shot.

PMDD, as opposed to regular PMS, has been known to cause severe psychological stress, to the point of causing anxiety attacks and major depressive episodes.

All reasons to exclude soldiers from fighting.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Men are expendable. Women can only have more than one baby at a time if you get lucky or something like that.
(I dunno how likely it is to have twins...)

But it's not like you die from recycling a uterine lining...necessarily...

No, we aren't granted that mercy. We recover and have to do it again and again and again ...

Oh, suck it up. You're a big girl, aren't you?

[The Rich Port]

DAS SEXIST.

Also, the irony of a privilege nobody wants...

If it's too costly to hold, why would anyone wanna carry that hot steaming pile of shit?

Well, if it's forced on you "for your benefit", for one.

And when people start making the argument that including women in the Selective Service System is bad for men and... That's why they should be excluded, for another.

People have changed my mind about the Selective Service Act, though. I'm now semi-against it. Military should be strictly for volunteers... As long as the military respects the rights of the civilians they're supposed to protect.

If it means sacrificing our freedoms AND our security, this country isn't worth protecting and the military is ignorantly wasting their time.

[Haktiva]

If it's too costly to hold, why would anyone wanna carry that hot steaming pile of shit?

Well, if it's forced on you "for your benefit", for one.

And when people start making the argument that including women in the Selective Service System is bad for men and... That's why they should be excluded, for another.

People have changed my mind about the Selective Service Act, though. I'm now semi-against it. Military should be strictly for volunteers... As long as the military respects the rights of the civilians they're supposed to protect.

If it means sacrificing our freedoms AND our security, this country isn't worth protecting and the military is ignorantly wasting their time.

I just like what General Smedley Butler said, that there should be a referendum by the people who would have to go and fight the war.

[The Rich Port]

Well, if it's forced on you "for your benefit", for one.

And when people start making the argument that including women in the Selective Service System is bad for men and... That's why they should be excluded, for another.

People have changed my mind about the Selective Service Act, though. I'm now semi-against it. Military should be strictly for volunteers... As long as the military respects the rights of the civilians they're supposed to protect.If it means sacrificing our freedoms AND our security, this country isn't worth protecting and the military is ignorantly wasting their time.

I just like what General Smedley Butler said, that there should be a referendum by the people who would have to go and fight the war.

Smedley Butler... Now THERE'S a fucking exemplary soldier. I mean, holy shit.

Well, I rather disagree with that, as I lick his boots... Only problem with a volunteer army would be with an invasion or a lack of manpower or funds causing problems in national security, which is what allegedly happened with 9/11 (even though the evidence points to it being a security oversight, Osama bin Laden having been a former ally of the U.S... Even then, that seems to be more a lack of funds/manpower in the CIA, rather than the military).

[Ayreonia]

In the way that potentially saves them from bleeding out on a battlefield.

... Well, multiple movements have been started where women have campaigned and explicitly demanded for the REMOVAL of that privilege.

I can find several examples of women's movements and feminist groups opposing female conscription, but can you provide an example of what you said?

In the way that potentially saves them from bleeding out on a battlefield.

Hell, we bleed out every 28 days. You guys couldn't handle it.

Adorable. Tell that to the hundreds of millions of conscripted males who have died in war.

[Alvecia]

Hell, we bleed out every 28 days. You guys couldn't handle it.

Adorable. Tell that to the tens of millions of conscripted males who have died in war.

I'm not actually sure your statement logically follows on from Farnhamia's

[Ashmoria]

No, we aren't granted that mercy. We recover and have to do it again and again and again ...

Sounds quite a bit like hell. If it's that bad, one day it might be wise to get around to removing the biological imperative of menstruation.

they have pills for that now.

[Ashmoria]

I can find several examples of women's movements and feminist groups opposing female conscription, but can you provide an example of what you said?

oh cool. please do so.

[Galloism]

I can find several examples of women's movements and feminist groups opposing female conscription, but can you provide an example of what you said?

oh cool. please do so.

Well, a 30 second google search revealed this.

http://womenalliance.org/no-to-female-conscription

Context: Norway switched from male-only conscription to conscription of both genders.

The Norwegian Association for Women’s Rights (NKF) is not opposed to women voluntarily seeking a career in the military if they want to, and the way the system works today, women have the same opportunities as men to join the armed forces. Conscription is something else – it includes everybody and entails the use of force. NKF strongly warns against the exertion of pressure to get women into the military and particularly the introduction of female conscription.

It is difficult to understand why the Ministry of Defence tries to recruit more women in a situation where only a small minority of men actually performs military service. The arguments are put forward that women and men must be treated equally, that women will help maintain the legitimacy of conscription and that they will contribute to better defence.

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To ensure gender equality it is important in many cases that women and men are treated equally. But they should not necessarily be treated equally in all situations. In some cases, the underprivileged gender must be favoured to be able obtain similar results. Actual differences between the lives of women and men must be taken into account. Women make an important contribution to society by becoming pregnant, giving birth and breast-feeding. Despite many years of active equality policy in Norway, women still bear the heaviest burden for children, sick and old people. Their efforts in this area are extensive and socially beneficial. But although women often are double working, they still earn less than men, own much less than men, have lower pension and are underrepresented in positions of power and influence. To impose a new burden such as conscription on women in this situation is unreasonable, and it can increase the economic and social gender gaps in society. Instead of equality the result will be greater inequality.

And it goes on.

[Ayreonia]

I can find several examples of women's movements and feminist groups opposing female conscription, but can you provide an example of what you said?

oh cool. please do so.

http://womenalliance.org/no-to-female-conscription
http://www.refusingtokill.net/Israel/wo ... israel.htm
http://www.swarthmore.edu/Library/peace ... 8.wcoc.htm
http://www.swarthmore.edu/Library/peace ... istory.htm

[Ashmoria]

oh cool. please do so.

http://womenalliance.org/no-to-female-conscription
http://www.refusingtokill.net/Israel/wo ... israel.htm
http://www.swarthmore.edu/Library/peace ... 8.wcoc.htm
http://www.swarthmore.edu/Library/peace ... istory.htm

about what I thought it would be--few and far between. and utterly inconsequential.

[Ayreonia]

Adorable. Tell that to the tens of millions of conscripted males who have died in war.

I'm not actually sure your statement logically follows on from Farnhamia's

It's okay, I am.

[Ayreonia]

http://womenalliance.org/no-to-female-conscription
http://www.refusingtokill.net/Israel/wo ... israel.htm
http://www.swarthmore.edu/Library/peace ... 8.wcoc.htm
http://www.swarthmore.edu/Library/peace ... istory.htm

about what I thought it would be--few and far between. and utterly inconsequential.

The IAW is inconsequential now?

Also, this was a 15-minute DuckDuckGo search with the keyword "women and conscription". While there were very few examples, as you pointed out, there were zero of these fabled pro-women's conscription women.

I also ruled out all results that had men opposing female conscription, because, well, you know why, and also organizations that had other main agendas, such as religious ones.

[Ashmoria]

about what I thought it would be--few and far between. and utterly inconsequential.

The IAW is inconsequential now?

Also, this was a 15-minute DuckDuckGo search with the keyword "women and conscription". While there were very few examples, as you pointed out, there were zero of these fabled pro-women's conscription women.

I also ruled out all results that had men opposing female conscription, because, well, you know why, and also organizations that had other main agendas, such as religious ones.

no the result of its opposition was inconsequential. either they didn't fight very hard or they aren't very powerful.

I know nothing about them, of course, but it seemed rather silly to me to oppose female conscription when so few are ever drafted and they have a strong conscientious objector program.

[Alvecia]

I'm not actually sure your statement logically follows on from Farnhamia's

It's okay, I am.

You'd be wrong. It's absolutely false equivalence.

[New Benian Republic]

Because gender equality you sexist!

[HUElavia]

At the time that Mass Draft was made, Women were not seen as people, hence they did not make them sign up for the draft.

[Jamzmania]

At the time that Mass Draft was made, Women were not seen as people, hence they did not make them sign up for the draft.

That doesn't seem accurate.

[The Holy Shifty Empire]

Why aren't women protesting their lack of presence in the waste management industry? Fence erection? House-building?