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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:04 am

Atomic Utopia wrote:Seems y'all quida is a thing now. I do not have facebook or twittet access right now, so please confirm what this article says.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/04/us/oregon ... index.html


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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:04 am

New Chalcedon wrote:Oh, dear Lord, the irony. C/o Twitter:

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These dumbfucks can't fight Big Gubbermint....because their welfare checks haven't cleared yet.

The response is gold. :lol2:
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:05 am

OP updated to current events, and cleaned up a bit. In class, so short on time - anyone heard word of whether or not the Hammonds showed up at prison today?
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:06 am

New Chalcedon wrote:Oh, dear Lord, the irony. C/o Twitter:

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These dumbfucks can't fight Big Gubbermint....because their welfare checks haven't cleared yet.


I'm also pretty sure that God has a better, more helpful-to-their-fellow-man place to send people than some building in the middle of nowhere for a stupid cause ;P
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:07 am

Salus Maior wrote:
New Chalcedon wrote:Oh, dear Lord, the irony. C/o Twitter:

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These dumbfucks can't fight Big Gubbermint....because their welfare checks haven't cleared yet.


I'm also pretty sure that God has a better place to send people than some building in the middle of nowhere for a stupid cause ;P


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Postby Wisconsin9 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:08 am

Salus Maior wrote:
New Chalcedon wrote:Oh, dear Lord, the irony. C/o Twitter:

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These dumbfucks can't fight Big Gubbermint....because their welfare checks haven't cleared yet.


I'm also pretty sure that God has a better place to send people than some building in the middle of nowhere for a stupid cause ;P

Maybe he's just clearing the numbskulls out of the way so that he can tell who would actually be useful.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:09 am

Alvecia wrote:
Atomic Utopia wrote:Seems y'all quida is a thing now. I do not have facebook or twittet access right now, so please confirm what this article says.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/04/us/oregon ... index.html


Yokel Haram is quite a good one.
Waging a YeeHawd made me giggle.

I think YeeHawd is pretty terrible, since it has to be said in a sentence in order to be clear. You can't work out what it is from the tag alone.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:10 am

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:OP updated to current events, and cleaned up a bit. In class, so short on time - anyone heard word of whether or not the Hammonds showed up at prison today?

Can't see any articles on it but aparently they've distanced themselves from the incident and plan on returning peacefully today.

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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:13 am

Alvecia wrote:
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:OP updated to current events, and cleaned up a bit. In class, so short on time - anyone heard word of whether or not the Hammonds showed up at prison today?

Can't see any articles on it but aparently they've distanced themselves from the incident and plan on returning peacefully today.

Last I read on them specifically, they were suppose to report this morning. Granted, it's only 9am there now, so they still have a few hours if that's the case. While it's true that they exist as little more than a rallying point for Bundy's crew, them reporting in could contribute so some of those holed up leaving eventually, and any resistance would undoubtedly add great fire to the militia.
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The color or what?..

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Postby Turmenista » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:29 am

I've got a bad feeling about this...

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:30 am

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Can't see any articles on it but aparently they've distanced themselves from the incident and plan on returning peacefully today.

Last I read on them specifically, they were suppose to report this morning. Granted, it's only 9am there now, so they still have a few hours if that's the case. While it's true that they exist as little more than a rallying point for Bundy's crew, them reporting in could contribute so some of those holed up leaving eventually, and any resistance would undoubtedly add great fire to the militia.

I have a sudden urge to quote "Gentlemen, you have had four hours, you had better have results."
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Postby Atomic Utopia » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:31 am

Turmenista wrote:I've got a bad feeling about this...


Why, the worst that will happen is the Nat Guard flattening Vanilla ISIS with a tank.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:32 am

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Criminal law forbids reasoning per analogy. You can't say something isn't terrorism because other instances of terrorism are worse. In this case, the armed gang of marauders, however small their actions may be, fulfil all the requirements of domestic terrorism. Whether or not they actually performed acts of domestic terrorism is for a judge to decide. They fit the bill, however. The worst instances of a fact do not determine the boundaries of such a fact.


This is not terrorism. Terrorism implies that a group intentionally stages an attack (primarily on civilians) to encourage fear of said group in a larger civilian populace. Dylan Roof is an example of terrorism, the guy who shot up the abortion clinic could also be legitimately classified as terrorism, fucking ISIS in Paris is terrorism.

The Bundy-squad has not attacked or otherwise inspired terror in civilians and nor does it intend to. Its issue is with the Federal Government and Law Enforcement, they have not taken hostages,and they're no where near civilians. It simply does not fit terrorism or terrorist activity in any form.

This is simply open rebellion against government. It's still bad and a crime, but it's not terrorism to hold up in an empty building in the middle of nowhere.
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Postby Diopolis » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:33 am

Pulau Singapura wrote:Well, looks like a civil war is about to break out :eyebrow:

No, this happens once or twice a decade over here.
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Postby Uxupox » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:44 am

Atomic Utopia wrote:
Turmenista wrote:I've got a bad feeling about this...


Why, the worst that will happen is the Nat Guard flattening Vanilla ISIS with a tank.


I still don't understand why people are comparing these guys to both ISIS and Al-Qaeda. While yes they are doing something wrong they haven't beheaded anybody, terrorized anyone or killed anyone at this very moment.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:44 am

Atomic Utopia wrote:
Turmenista wrote:I've got a bad feeling about this...


Why, the worst that will happen is the Nat Guard flattening Vanilla ISIS with a tank.


ISIS: Nearly toppled the Iraqi and Syrian government, instituted religious rape-slavery, tortures people for not having big enough beards/not having full-hijab, conducted sophisticated and barbaric attacks on civilians in foreign countries, destroys ancient artifacts and ruins and commits ethnic cleansing against minorities in its way.

"Vanilla ISIS": Holed up in an empty building in the middle of nowhere illegally.

Great comparison.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:44 am

Uxupox wrote:
Atomic Utopia wrote:
Why, the worst that will happen is the Nat Guard flattening Vanilla ISIS with a tank.


I still don't understand why people are comparing these guys to both ISIS and Al-Qaeda. While yes they are doing something wrong they haven't beheaded anybody, terrorized anyone or killed anyone at this very moment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humour

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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:45 am

Atomic Utopia wrote:
Turmenista wrote:I've got a bad feeling about this...


Why, the worst that will happen is the Nat Guard flattening Vanilla ISIS with a tank.


ISIS kills women for not wearing headscarves.

This self professed "militia" is just occupying a building because they're pissed off about "x."
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:45 am

Pulau Singapura wrote:Well, looks like a civil war is about to break out :eyebrow:


Sure, why the fuck not?
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:46 am

Ifreann wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
I still don't understand why people are comparing these guys to both ISIS and Al-Qaeda. While yes they are doing something wrong they haven't beheaded anybody, terrorized anyone or killed anyone at this very moment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humour


There's also something called "unfunny humor".
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Postby Uxupox » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:47 am

Ifreann wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
I still don't understand why people are comparing these guys to both ISIS and Al-Qaeda. While yes they are doing something wrong they haven't beheaded anybody, terrorized anyone or killed anyone at this very moment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humour


I can be sarcastic too but that will probably make me end up getting reported or something.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:47 am

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Atomic Utopia wrote:
Why, the worst that will happen is the Nat Guard flattening Vanilla ISIS with a tank.


ISIS kills women for not wearing headscarves.

This self professed "militia" is just occupying a building because they're pissed off about "x."

Of course we're so deadly serious about the direct comparison to IS, that's why were using a punny name based on "Vanilla Ice" to describe white seditionists.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:47 am

Salus Maior wrote:


There's also something called "unfunny humor".

Why, touching a little close to home?
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:47 am

Salus Maior wrote:


There's also something called "unfunny humor".


Eh, I find some of the humor in this thread, and across NSG, very unintentional. I've already seen people he are claiming this that marks the start of a civil war, more than one person making ISIS comparisons, and I've seen defenses of this "'militia."

All of that is quite humorous, in a very unintentional way.
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Postby Uxupox » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:48 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
ISIS kills women for not wearing headscarves.

This self professed "militia" is just occupying a building because they're pissed off about "x."

Of course we're so deadly serious about the direct comparison to IS, that's why were using a punny name based on "Vanilla Ice" to describe white seditionists.


This isn't a race issue though.
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