Renewed Crusade?

[Vistulange]

Yes, a holy fanatic war from Christianity to a region of largely Muslim people will certainly fix everything right away, cause no issues, and certainly won't radicalize many more people who feel threatened from a bunch of religious fanatics invading under the self righteous guise of bringing peace and order.

They're supposed to keel over and die, you see, and just accept that Christians are the superior men.

[Confederal States of America]

I would support sending volunteer groups of troops to fight another crusade. But as a whole nation, I would not want to invade the Middle East and fight a bunch of insurgencies. I would however be interested in retaking Constantinople as I personally am an Orthodox Christian and want my Holy City free from Islamic oppression and terror.

[Planita]

Because the crusades against Christians such as the Albigenses or the Hussites weren't actual crusades. Uh uh.

Disgusting heretics. Im annoyed that I have to tolerate Protestants.

*sigh*

[Risottia]

Sure there should be a new crusade. I suggest every Christian who feels brave enough and strong in his faith to pick up his weapon and march to the Holy Land. Go forth, Soldiers of the Lord! Gain a new fief in Palestine and a place at the table of your Saviour!

Dude, did you read anything in this flame war? There wouldn't be a new fief in Israel.

Then you'll have to be content with your otherwordly reward.

I'd fight if I could. I am ineligible to serve in the military. If I was physically and mentally fit (and off these medicines I need to function), I'd gladly enlist to exterminate ISIL.

Yeah sure. And since you aren't able to fight yourself, you'd gladly push other people into a massacre instead. How noble.

[Zachary Nichols]

Yes, a holy fanatic war from Christianity to a region of largely Muslim people will certainly fix everything right away, cause no issues, and certainly won't radicalize many more people who feel threatened from a bunch of religious fanatics invading under the self righteous guise of bringing peace and order.

Teach those sand-niggers to mess with Christendom with some Agent Orange and Barrel Bombs!*nods

[TURTLESHROOM II]

Right, so lots of ignorant ideas from somebody who has zero understanding of how international relations and international law works, gotcha.

Gee, I'm sure you got this all figured out. Enlighten me on how to destroy the subhumans that are raping women in dungeons and inventing new forms of torture for their sick pleasure. Please tell me how ISIL will listen to anything except the tolls of death.

In this instance, international law can go to Hell. Killing ISIL must be done to the best and most total fruition of all military capabilities (excluding nukes and WMDs) by the counter-belligerents. What the other nations think about killing ISIL doesn't matter and unless we stoop to raping women in dungeons and beheading anyone who doesn't think like us, I don't give a crap about international law or who dies in the process of killing ISIL. No one under ISIL's black banenr who isn't an ISIL member is going to survive. They are evil enough that if they lose, they are going to kill everyone they can in their false god's name.

We didn't give much of a crap about international law and norms in WWII and they shouldn't now. We are losing the war because we're too obsessed with minimizing casualties. War kills. That's a fact of life we cannot stop, and if ISIL is ever to be exterminated, we need to exterminate them like we exterminated National Socialism and Imperial Japanese orgies.

[Vistulange]

I would support sending volunteer groups of troops to fight another crusade. But as a whole nation, I would not want to invade the Middle East and fight a bunch of insurgencies. I would however be interested in retaking Constantinople as I personally am an Orthodox Christian and want my Holy City free from Islamic oppression and terror.

Since when was the Republic of Turkey "Islamist" and "terrorist"?

https://global.tbmm.gov.tr/docs/constitution_en.pdf

I refer to you to page 18 of the PDF, to Article II of the Turkish Constitution.

Right, so lots of ignorant ideas from somebody who has zero understanding of how international relations and international law works, gotcha.

Gee, I'm sure you got this all figured out. Enlighten me on how to destroy the subhumans that are raping women in dungeons and inventing new forms of torture for their sick pleasure. Please tell me how ISIL will listen to anything except the tolls of death.

In this instance, international law can go to Hell. Killing ISIL must be done to the best and most total fruition of all military capabilities (excluding nukes and WMDs) by the counter-belligerents. What the other nations think about killing ISIL doesn't matter and unless we stoop to raping women in dungeons and beheading anyone who doesn't think like us, I don't give a crap about international law or who dies in the process of killing ISIL. No one under ISIL's black banenr who isn't an ISIL member is going to survive. They are evil enough that if they lose, they are going to kill everyone they can in their false god's name.

We didn't give much of a crap about international law and norms in WWII and they shouldn't now. We are losing the war because we're too obsessed with minimizing casualties. War kills. That's a fact of life we cannot stop, and if ISIL is ever to be exterminated, we need to exterminate them like we exterminated National Socialism and Imperial Japanese orgies.

Turtleshroom, I never claimed I have a solution to this problem in the Middle-East. But I am not the one endorsing a bloodbath, one you will not and supposedly cannot join.

Second, you are dramatizing. Nobody, not even ISIS, is evil for the kicks. Their tortures and executions serve a purpose, which is to instill fear in the West, and they aren't "inventing new forms of torture for their sick pleasure".

Disregard international law and become North Korea. I suppose that's a good deal, mhm. Have fun with your failing economy and the subsequent inability to support said crusade, getting stuck in a bog which will likely be even worse than Vietnam.

[Atelia]

Thessaloniki.


There is one crucial difference. They serve their people, and I serve mine. (And my book is more true to original form ofcourse)


I am a Macedonian whose parents renounced the paganistic 'Hellas' and acknowledged that we bare the Roman legacy.

Both of your parents are fullblood macedonian? And Macedonians todag are mostly Slavic.

Well no, I am a pontic so the Macedonian aspect is rather new in the grand scheme of things.
FYROM is Bulgarian.

Oh come on! Even you know thats a theological debate that is out of the scope of this thread.

No, no. Don't play that card. You said something, you back it up. Or are you new here?

As the religion of our cultural foundation, for the maintenance of the nation one should uphold the Christian law. One who truly follows that law would be fine with doing his due in battle. One should believe in God for he created all around us.

[Risottia]

Yes, a holy fanatic war from Christianity to a region of largely Muslim people will certainly fix everything right away, cause no issues, and certainly won't radicalize many more people who feel threatened from a bunch of religious fanatics invading under the self righteous guise of bringing peace and order.

They're supposed to keel over and die, you see, and just accept that Christians are the superior men.

Only Aryan Christians I hope, we wouldn't want savages, converts and similar untermenschen in our army, now, would we.

[Planita]

I would support sending volunteer groups of troops to fight another crusade. But as a whole nation, I would not want to invade the Middle East and fight a bunch of insurgencies. I would however be interested in retaking Constantinople as I personally am an Orthodox Christian and want my Holy City free from Islamic oppression and terror.

Since when was the Republic of Turkey "Islamist" and "terrorist"?

https://global.tbmm.gov.tr/docs/constitution_en.pdf

I refer to you to page 18 of the PDF, to Article II of the Turkish Constitution.

Turkey isn't a great model of modern western liberal democracies.

[TURTLESHROOM II]

They're supposed to keel over and die, you see, and just accept that Christians are the superior men.

We- not just Christians, but all men appalled by ISIL barbarity -are superior to ISIL in every possible way. The radical Islamic extrmist fighters of ISIL are not human, they do not act human, and they should be culled like the animals they are.

ISIL has no more value than a Nazi, and like Nazis, the only good ISIL fighter is a dead ISIL fighter.

[Zachary Nichols]

I would support sending volunteer groups of troops to fight another crusade. But as a whole nation, I would not want to invade the Middle East and fight a bunch of insurgencies. I would however be interested in retaking Constantinople as I personally am an Orthodox Christian and want my Holy City free from Islamic oppression and terror.

Since when was the Republic of Turkey "Islamist" and "terrorist"?

https://global.tbmm.gov.tr/docs/constitution_en.pdf

I refer to you to page 18 of the PDF, to Article II of the Turkish Constitution.

Have you not read of the atrocities he has commited? Like banning Twitter?!?

[Bezkoshtovnya]

I would support sending volunteer groups of troops to fight another crusade. But as a whole nation, I would not want to invade the Middle East and fight a bunch of insurgencies. I would however be interested in retaking Constantinople as I personally am an Orthodox Christian and want my Holy City free from Islamic oppression and terror.

Right, again,letting loose a bunch of fanatic rabble surely will have no negatives whatsoever, and certainly wont do any harm from good.

It was 500 years ago, and now is culturally Turkish. Making up some sort of delusion of the city living under a reign of terror and fear does not make it any more viable of an idea. Get over it.

[Jochistan]

Now what to do with the Europeans who have been Muslim for Centuries?

[Vistulange]

Since when was the Republic of Turkey "Islamist" and "terrorist"?

https://global.tbmm.gov.tr/docs/constitution_en.pdf

I refer to you to page 18 of the PDF, to Article II of the Turkish Constitution.

Turkey isn't a great model of modern western liberal democracies.

Irrelevant. Still secular and still not a terrorist state.

Since when was the Republic of Turkey "Islamist" and "terrorist"?

https://global.tbmm.gov.tr/docs/constitution_en.pdf

I refer to you to page 18 of the PDF, to Article II of the Turkish Constitution.

[img=Durti Erdogan]https://syrianfreepress.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/erdogan-jabhat-al-nusrat.jpg[/img]

Have you not read of the atrocities he has commited? Like banning Twitter?!?

Since when did the word "government" mean the same thing as "state"?

[Geilinor]

Since when was the Republic of Turkey "Islamist" and "terrorist"?

https://global.tbmm.gov.tr/docs/constitution_en.pdf

I refer to you to page 18 of the PDF, to Article II of the Turkish Constitution.

[img=Durti Erdogan]https://syrianfreepress.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/erdogan-jabhat-al-nusrat.jpg[/img]

Have you not read of the atrocities he has commited? Like banning Twitter?!?

Of course he has and I know he hates Erdogan, but Turkey is legally still a secular country.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

They're supposed to keel over and die, you see, and just accept that Christians are the superior men.

We- not just Christians, but all men appalled by ISIL barbarity -are superior to ISIL in every possible way. The radical Islamic extrmist fighters of ISIL are not human, they do not act human, and they should be culled like the animals they are.

ISIL has no more value than a Nazi, and like Nazis, the only good ISIL fighter is a dead ISIL fighter.

So the response to religious extremism that is "subhuman" by your own words, is to send religious extremists of another religion and just hope everything plays out well.

[Farnhamia]

Yes, a holy fanatic war from Christianity to a region of largely Muslim people will certainly fix everything right away, cause no issues, and certainly won't radicalize many more people who feel threatened from a bunch of religious fanatics invading under the self righteous guise of bringing peace and order.

Teach those sand-niggers to mess with Christendom with some Agent Orange and Barrel Bombs!*nods

*** Warned for trolling. ***

I won't have this, people. This thread is iffy enough already.

[Atelia]

I would support sending volunteer groups of troops to fight another crusade. But as a whole nation, I would not want to invade the Middle East and fight a bunch of insurgencies. I would however be interested in retaking Constantinople as I personally am an Orthodox Christian and want my Holy City free from Islamic oppression and terror.

Right, again,letting loose a bunch of fanatic rabble surely will have no negatives whatsoever, and certainly wont do any harm from good.

It was 500 years ago, and now is culturally Turkish. Making up some sort of delusion of the city living under a reign of terror and fear does not make it any more viable of an idea. Get over it.

That city is my nations capital. I have stood in it, and I can feel it in my soul calling out to me. I see it in my dreams. The Turks are not content with conquest they have now sunken to supporting the ISlamic State in order to further murder and rape Christians. Taking back the city is a rather tame response honestly.

[TURTLESHROOM II]

Since when was the Republic of Turkey "Islamist" and "terrorist"?

https://global.tbmm.gov.tr/docs/constitution_en.pdf

I refer to you to page 18 of the PDF, to Article II of the Turkish Constitution.

Adorable.

So that's guarenteed just because it's written there? Ask the Kurds what they think about that. The Soviet Union's constitution guarenteed freedoms too, but that didn't work out.

I'll remind you of the current Shariah wannabe/terrorist running Turkey into the ground:

BBC source of quote

[Planita]

Right, again,letting loose a bunch of fanatic rabble surely will have no negatives whatsoever, and certainly wont do any harm from good.

It was 500 years ago, and now is culturally Turkish. Making up some sort of delusion of the city living under a reign of terror and fear does not make it any more viable of an idea. Get over it.

That city is my nations capital. I have stood in it, and I can feel it in my soul calling out to me. I see it in my dreams. The Turks are not content with conquest they have now sunken to supporting the ISlamic State in order to further murder and rape Christians. Taking back the city is a rather tame response honestly.

I don't see any method that would turn the place back to a Christian stronghold without violating international law several times over.

[Atelia]

Now what to do with the Europeans who have been Muslim for Centuries?

If you refer to Bosnians and Albanians, I dont care as long as they arent spreading their Islamic values.

[TURTLESHROOM II]

That city is my nations capital. I have stood in it, and I can feel it in my soul calling out to me. I see it in my dreams. The Turks are not content with conquest they have now sunken to supporting the Illamic State in order to further murder and rape Christians. Taking back the city is a rather tame response honestly.

Turkey is alleged to be buying from ISIL thanks to their terrorist president.

I agree with Atelia, but we cannot risk war with Turkey just because of their ancestors' wrongs. Now is not the time to retake Constantinople, and honestly, it may never be the time unless a civil war happens over there. Besides, modern Greece is honestly too retarded to maintain that much land and money.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Right, again,letting loose a bunch of fanatic rabble surely will have no negatives whatsoever, and certainly wont do any harm from good.

It was 500 years ago, and now is culturally Turkish. Making up some sort of delusion of the city living under a reign of terror and fear does not make it any more viable of an idea. Get over it.

That city is my nations capital. I have stood in it, and I can feel it in my soul calling out to me. I see it in my dreams. The Turks are not content with conquest they have now sunken to supporting the ISlamic State in order to further murder and rape Christians.

Your self righteous delusions really don't mean anything, sorry.

Can't find any reliable sources that undeniably confirm Turkey aiding ISIS either. Lots of allegations though, I admit.

[Sunken Island of Rhinomuraena]

Now what to do with the Europeans who have been Muslim for Centuries?

If you refer to Bosnians and Albanians, I dont care as long as they arent spreading their Islamic values.

What, the exact same values as Christian values?