Renewed Crusade?

[Zachary Nichols]

Lets sack Constantinople again, but this time Washington DC.

[Italios]

No im not. That said I am an immigrant, but I certainly would like to go home.

There is indeed a reason, one I disagree with.

And where would be that "home"?

He hasn't confirmed it yet, but possibly Vatican City.

[Planita]

And where would be that "home"?

He hasn't confirmed it yet, but possibly Vatican City.

Its Jerusalem but kick everyone else out first *nods*

[TURTLESHROOM II]

I trust the Jews and Christians with the Middle East more than anyone else (excluding the Kurds). Besides, we already have a recognized ISIL terrorist heck hole in the international community, called Saudi Arabia. One ISIL is enough, so let's carpet bomb the other.

If we don't call a Crusade on radical Islamic terrorism and the Pope doesn't grow a pair, we'll be in a lifetime of pain, as we've been since 2001 AD. Pope Francis is an amazing Christian, but an awfully weak Pope. He's too busy advocating for coddling potential terrorists of breeding age that are flooding Europe with rapid birth rates, and peddling a misinterpretation of climatology to actually put actions behind his wordy speeches against ISIL.

An united front of all civilized Christendom against ISIL, in the form of voluntary militiamen collaborating with the nations to remove Islamic terror at its source

It's very simple. We must shed the notions of rules of engagement and fight ISIL like we fought Japan and Germany in WWII (except, you know, the nukes) and like we fought Vietnam, with indiscriminate takedowns of their hostile governments by napalm, B-52 carpet bombing, and all conventional weapons at our disposal. No war has topped civilian deaths than WWII, and that was a just fight then and now.

We can always rebuild the ashes if we want to, but frankly, the Middle East is largely too stupid to govern itself (radical Islamic extremism being the polar opposite of humanity) and it'd have been better if the colonists either never came, or never left. Syria wouldn't be in civil war under the British Mandate or the Ottoman Empire. (As always, I must note we shouldn't have gone into Iraq in the first place!)

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Absent a Crusade, there is still a means to combat ISIL without a ground war.

The operations are simple. I am no soldier, but based on what I've read in history and the doctrines of "total war", we need to start with these tactics.

• We target and destroy all mines and natural resources being used by ISIL, including its oil reserves and infrastructure. We drone every truck on the road, and we could even warn them to get out. We bomb them intil the very caves and ground collapses under them.
• We bomb all infrastructure excluding schools and hospitals.
• We bomb anything of value excluding the Heritage Sites.
• We inject pig's blood, taken from a live pig as they watch, into all captured ISIL POWs (no torture needed for this is torture enough) and execute them using female soldiers with pig-laced bullets as a propaganda attack, because they belive both of those deeds will damn their subhuman "souls" to Hell. This will weaken their resolve, and it has been done before by American soldiers to great effect.
• We carpet bomb Raqqa (their capital) indiscriminately and force them to scatter. Civilians be darned, because they're not going to get out of the capital alive anyway. (Have you SEEN the rape dungeons they built in Raqqa?)
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• Instead of sending American and Western boots on the ground, we directly arm the Kurds with the guarentee of full independent statehood for their people and let them kill as they wish.
• We officially back Syria's government and help Assad destroy the terrorists fighting him until he is the undisputed controller of Syria. Most of the Syrian rebels are as extreme as ISIL. Assad may be a dictator, but he has protected the Kurds and Christians and Druze time and time again from genocide (unlike Saddam, who should have stayed in power).
• We pressure the Arabian states to take all these migrants through sanctions and trade. If they want us to buy their oil, they need to take every Islamic migrant they can. They want an Islamic society and they want to practice their faith over all others, so let's give them exactly what they asked for. Those states are rich and can afford it without having the cultural tensions Europe is getting from importing an alien religion and culture en masse. There are many other places to buy oil, including from Russia, Canada, the Asian states and Oceania islands in the region, China, and even the USA.
• The Christian and religious minority migrants from Syria can either settle in the newly free Kurdistan or can move to any Western country, because neither their religion nor their values are a threat or at risk of eclipsing the native populations by birth alone.

There will be no peace in the Middle East until ISIL is terminated, Assad is in power, and every subhuman in their ranks is four feet underground and injected with the blood of swine.

Deus vult.

[Atelia]

No im not. That said I am an immigrant, but I certainly would like to go home.

There is indeed a reason, one I disagree with.

And where would be that "home"?

Thessaloniki.

No im not. That said I am an immigrant, but I certainly would like to go home.

There is indeed a reason, one I disagree with.


Fully understood. But I will never shy from explaining my beliefs and simply aggravating people achieves nothing.

Right, you have absolutely no difference from the people you seek to "re-educate".

Repress opposing opinions? Check!
Kill the infidels? Check!

The only different thing is the book you wave in the hair. Written by Man. Both of them.

Tell me, how are you different from ISIS?

There is one crucial difference. They serve their people, and I serve mine. (And my book is more true to original form ofcourse)

I dont care about rubbish 'Historical Justice' I care about serving my people 'The Romans' and my religion 'Christianity' for the betterment of the health of each.

You're a direct descendant of Romans and were raised in a family that celebrated their Roman heritage?

Or you just made a loose connection with an obscure part of your family tree?

I am a Macedonian whose parents renounced the paganistic 'Hellas' and acknowledged that we bare the Roman legacy.

No im not. That said I am an immigrant, but I certainly would like to go home.

There is indeed a reason, one I disagree with.

So you want to... Ban yourself?

I like it in Moscow, but I would rather not be, its pretty simply isnt it?

[Planita]

And where would be that "home"?

Thessaloniki.

I hope you don't mind SYRIZA.

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Oh look someone agrees with you.

[Atelia]

Lets sack Constantinople again, but this time Washington DC.

I would be fine with sacking the capital of global Zionism.

[Sunken Island of Rhinomuraena]

And where would be that "home"?

Thessaloniki.

Right, you have absolutely no difference from the people you seek to "re-educate".

Repress opposing opinions? Check!
Kill the infidels? Check!

The only different thing is the book you wave in the hair. Written by Man. Both of them.

Tell me, how are you different from ISIS?

There is one crucial difference. They serve their people, and I serve mine. (And my book is more true to original form ofcourse)

You're a direct descendant of Romans and were raised in a family that celebrated their Roman heritage?

Or you just made a loose connection with an obscure part of your family tree?

I am a Macedonian whose parents renounced the paganistic 'Hellas' and acknowledged that we bare the Roman legacy.

So you want to... Ban yourself?

I like it in Moscow, but I would rather not be, its pretty simply isnt it?

[Italios]

And where would be that "home"?

Thessaloniki.

Right, you have absolutely no difference from the people you seek to "re-educate".

Repress opposing opinions? Check!
Kill the infidels? Check!

The only different thing is the book you wave in the hair. Written by Man. Both of them.

Tell me, how are you different from ISIS?

There is one crucial difference. They serve their people, and I serve mine.

You're a direct descendant of Romans and were raised in a family that celebrated their Roman heritage?

Or you just made a loose connection with an obscure part of your family tree?

I am a Macedonian whose parents renounced the paganistic 'Hellas' and acknowledged that we bare the Roman legacy.

So you want to... Ban yourself?

I like it in Moscow, but I would rather not be, its pretty simply isnt it?

Cool. I have Greek blood in me too. But I'd rather not go there, 'cause of the economic crisis and all.

The crucial difference you mentioned: um, no. Who's your people? The Christians? And then, Muslims? Religious terrorism isn't determined by which religion it is exercised by. It still is.

No, it's not that simple.

[Risottia]

Sure there should be a new crusade. I suggest every Christian who feels brave enough and strong in his faith to pick up his sword (literally: sword, not gun) and march to the Holy Land. Go forth, Soldiers of the Lord! Gain a new fief in Palestine and a place at the table of your Saviour!

*frolics in a new Europe finally devoid of Christian zealots*

[Atelia]

Thessaloniki.

I hope you don't mind SYRIZA.

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Oh look someone agrees with you.

Noble intention but they clearly failed and walked back from every promise. So no I would rather not vote for them.

[TURTLESHROOM II]

If you want to help get rid of ISIS and the Gulf State Salafis, cool. Please, by all means, lend a hand. But for some reason, I have the strangest feeling that you have something broader in mind.

The OP seems to indicate that a specific goal and operation is in mind: the removal of ISIL down to the last man.

The three true Crusades were targeted to certain regions (I count the Fourth Crusade as a pillaging secular war because STUPID VENICE) and had specific goals in mind and specific Muslims to kill (namely everything in Jerusalem). Most people who went or financed it went bankrupt (again, excluding the Fourth Crusade) or were killed in its united pushback.
We're not here to defend the Crusades, though.

A renewed Crusade would be given a speficic goal (the total extermination of ISIL down to every last man). The Christians that invaded need not restore the ancient Kingdom of Syria or nation build on their own, because Assad- the dictator -is already there to do that for them. (Though, it'd be nice if they tried and actually stayed there to rule instead of making puppets and going home).

[Vistulange]

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Right, so lots of ignorant ideas from somebody who has zero understanding of how international relations and international law works, gotcha.

There is one crucial difference. They serve their people, and I serve mine. (And my book is more true to original form ofcourse)

Could you please prove the last statement? I mean, why exactly should I believe you?

[Planita]

Lets sack Constantinople again, but this time Washington DC.

I would be fine with sacking the capital of global Zionism.

Why am I not surprised?

[Mefpan]

Yes, I'm pretty sure calling a FUCKING CRUSADE will help calm tempers in the Middle East. There's no way this would ever become prime Daeshbag propaganda bait.

[Zachary Nichols]

Lets sack Constantinople again, but this time Washington DC.

I would be fine with sacking the capital of global Zionism.

Dont think Zionism is a thing but whatever.

[TURTLESHROOM II]

Sure there should be a new crusade. I suggest every Christian who feels brave enough and strong in his faith to pick up his weapon and march to the Holy Land. Go forth, Soldiers of the Lord! Gain a new fief in Palestine and a place at the table of your Saviour!

Dude, did you read anything in this flame war? There wouldn't be a new fief in Israel.

I'd fight if I could. I am ineligible to serve in the military. If I was physically and mentally fit (and off these medicines I need to function), I'd gladly enlist to exterminate ISIL.

[Risottia]

The three true Crusades were targeted to certain regions

Because the crusades against Christians such as the Albigenses or the Hussites weren't actual crusades. Uh uh.

[Atelia]

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Right, so lots of ignorant ideas from somebody who has zero understanding of how international relations and international law works, gotcha.

There is one crucial difference. They serve their people, and I serve mine. (And my book is more true to original form ofcourse)

Could you please prove the last statement? I mean, why exactly should I believe you?

Oh come on! Even you know thats a theological debate that is out of the scope of this thread.

[Jochistan]

And where would be that "home"?

Thessaloniki.

Right, you have absolutely no difference from the people you seek to "re-educate".

Repress opposing opinions? Check!
Kill the infidels? Check!

The only different thing is the book you wave in the hair. Written by Man. Both of them.

Tell me, how are you different from ISIS?

There is one crucial difference. They serve their people, and I serve mine. (And my book is more true to original form ofcourse)

You're a direct descendant of Romans and were raised in a family that celebrated their Roman heritage?

Or you just made a loose connection with an obscure part of your family tree?

I am a Macedonian whose parents renounced the paganistic 'Hellas' and acknowledged that we bare the Roman legacy.

Both of your parents are fullblood macedonian? And Macedonians todag are mostly Slavic.

[Vistulange]

Sure there should be a new crusade. I suggest every Christian who feels brave enough and strong in his faith to pick up his weapon and march to the Holy Land. Go forth, Soldiers of the Lord! Gain a new fief in Palestine and a place at the table of your Saviour!

Dude, did you read anything in this flame war? There wouldn't be a new fief in Israel.

I'd fight if I could. I am ineligible to serve in the military. If I was physically and mentally fit (and off these medicines I need to function), I'd gladly enlist to exterminate ISIL.

By all means.

There's no talking logic into some folks.

[Vistulange]

Right, so lots of ignorant ideas from somebody who has zero understanding of how international relations and international law works, gotcha.



Could you please prove the last statement? I mean, why exactly should I believe you?

Oh come on! Even you know thats a theological debate that is out of the scope of this thread.

No, no. Don't play that card. You said something, you back it up. Or are you new here?

[Atelia]

The three true Crusades were targeted to certain regions

Because the crusades against Christians such as the Albigenses or the Hussites weren't actual crusades. Uh uh.

Disgusting heretics. Im annoyed that I have to tolerate Protestants.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Yes, a holy fanatic war from Christianity to a region of largely Muslim people will certainly fix everything right away, cause no issues, and certainly won't radicalize many more people who feel threatened from a bunch of religious fanatics invading under the self righteous guise of bringing peace and order.

[The Snazzylands]

If that means Christians willingly going abroad to fight ISIS then I'm all for it, but leave Turkey alone. The Turks have occupied Anatolia for over 450 years now, it's theirs. Byzantium was really cool and all but get over it already.

I giggled, because at first I thought you were kidding.

Now, looking at your sig, I'm unsure. Are you joking?

I have said it before, but im happy to repeat.
I dont Joke.
These days are far to serious for it to be excusable for me.

You're the edgiest edgelord I've ever seen. What's your secret?

I would be fine with sacking the capital of global Zionism.

Dont think Zionism is a thing but whatever.

But it is