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Postby Valyrian Freeholds » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:39 am

The war was a pointless endeavour by Bush in order to gain oil bucks and seem like he was doing shit in the wake of 9/11. It was completely unnecessary and paved the way for sectarian and ethnic tensions that led to the rise of groups like ISIS.
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Postby Neon Trotsky » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:11 am

I don't think it was about so much as it was the fact that the neoconservatives had been aching to rebuild entire region to their liking since the Gulf War. Combine this with a powerful defense lobby that loves any opportunity to have more business, and pro-Israel hawks who are never satisfied with the level of US military engagement in the region and add on top of that American fear and ignorance in the wake of 9/11 and you have the perfect cocktail to start an idiotic, costly conflict that has only served to further destabilize the region.

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Postby United Kingdom of Kent » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:34 am

Although ofcourse now we're aware that the WMDs were not present, at the time the evidence and Saddams own rhetoric appeared to indicate there existence & presence. As such much better to act in my eyes before we were cursed by what could have been those ominous words, too late.

Saddam was no saint, and although we were guilty of having supported him in the past I will lose no sleep whatsoever over his downfall. My only wish is we had pushed for the British jus post bellum and reconstruction plans, rather than the Yanks 'strategy'.
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Postby The Jaclean Empire » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:38 am

Frank Zipper wrote:As oil runs out it becomes of more strategic value. I really find it hard to believe that the Iraq war was anything other than part of a strategy to ensure control of oil. It was done with utter ineptness, creating many problems.

Too bad all oil seized in Iraq and Afghanistan was returned to those nations...
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Postby Bachata republic » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:39 am

So the Op disagrees with the body count in Iraq because it was Britain that was involved but supports an organisation who murdered innocent civilians in the UK, hypocrisy is a good master, and an organisation who's leader was selling guns and doing deals with 'ze Germans' in WW2
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Postby Aggicificicerous » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:40 am

Soviet Catalonia wrote:America and Britain invaded iraq in 2003 because they said that iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Kt was later found out that no such weapons existed. In other words a million lives wasted in vain.

However, like i said iraq was invaded by two countries that if you combi ed their weapons could destroy the world two hundred times.

So why was iraq invaded for having no nuclear weapoms when america and Britain did?


It was to end a brutal dictatorship and restore stability to the land. Can't you see how successful it's been?

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:47 am

The 502nd SS wrote:We invaded partially due to WMDs- yes
Were they nukes- no
The WMDs we found were chemical, old weapons, but still chemical weapons. I'm on my phone right now so I can't get the CIA(?) report until later.


Chemical weapons we gave them ;)
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