Drug Legalisation too Slow: Cause for Revolution?

[Novaja Zemlja]

So how is it be damaging per se?

People become addicted to the substance and they do act of violence that effects families, friends and random strangers.

They don't have to, just as much as an addiction to alcohol can do.

[Imperializt Russia]

Of course there will, because you will have maliciously poisoned and raped someone.
Debates work better when you don't invent absurd consequences.

It could happen and he might say "She wanted the drug".

That excuse arguably already exists so it wouldn't change anything.

[Socialist Tera]

People become addicted to the substance and they do act of violence that effects families, friends and random strangers.

They don't have to, just as much as an addiction to alcohol can do.

From my knowledge it seems more likely, can you link me a study on from a University?

[Benomia 3]

Of course there will, because you will have maliciously poisoned and raped someone.
Debates work better when you don't invent absurd consequences.

It could happen and he might say "She wanted the drug".

Wait a minute, are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that if we legalize recreational drug use we'll see a large increase in unpunished rapes?

fucking what

[Socialist Tera]

It could happen and he might say "She wanted the drug".

Wait a minute, are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that if we legalize recreational drug use we'll see a large increase in unpunished rapes?

fucking what

It could happen because first you have to prove that she didn't want the drug. Rape is already under-punished.

[Imperializt Russia]

Wait a minute, are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that if we legalize recreational drug use we'll see a large increase in unpunished rapes?

fucking what

It could happen because first you have to prove that she didn't want the drug. Rape is already under-punished.

Since GHB, one of the most commonly-used date-rape drugs is used recreationally (as is Ketamine and other tranquilising drugs), that argument already exists.

If one is committed to acquiring sex through rape through chemical sedation, the legality of the substances they use for that probably isn't a motivating factor.

[Wallenburg]

Wait a minute, are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that if we legalize recreational drug use we'll see a large increase in unpunished rapes?

fucking what

It could happen because first you have to prove that she didn't want the drug. Rape is already under-punished.

(S)he says (s)he didn't want the drug.

Case closed.

[Novaja Zemlja]

They don't have to, just as much as an addiction to alcohol can do.

From my knowledge it seems more likely, can you link me a study on from a University?

No, I cannot as I am doing a judgement from my own thinking, I am interested in your sources however.

[Imperializt Russia]

From my knowledge it seems more likely, can you link me a study on from a University?

No, I cannot as I am doing a judgement from my own thinking, I am interested in your sources however.

A judgement from your own thinking, unless it's an analysis of data you have performed or are perusing, is pretty meaningless.

[Novaja Zemlja]

No, I cannot as I am doing a judgement from my own thinking, I am interested in your sources however.

A judgement from your own thinking, unless it's an analysis of data you have performed or are perusing, is pretty meaningless.

Here's a nice source which shows that drugs (including alcohol) are not to blame for aggressive acts. Whilst drugs can increase aggressiveness this is only the case when the person expects this. Stopping, or reducing the use of drugs and alcohol, can only decrease the violence for a certain amount of time.

[Wallenburg]

A judgement from your own thinking, unless it's an analysis of data you have performed or are perusing, is pretty meaningless.

Here's a nice source which shows that drugs (including alcohol) are not to blame for aggressive acts. Whilst drugs can increase aggressiveness this is only the case when the person expects this. Stopping, or reducing the use of drugs and alcohol, can only decrease the violence for a certain amount of time.

That doesn't mean that we shouldn't launch efforts to limit and reduce the prevalence of addicting substances. Reducing violence is, in of itself, a good thing.

[Novaja Zemlja]

Here's a nice source which shows that drugs (including alcohol) are not to blame for aggressive acts. Whilst drugs can increase aggressiveness this is only the case when the person expects this. Stopping, or reducing the use of drugs and alcohol, can only decrease the violence for a certain amount of time.

That doesn't mean that we shouldn't launch efforts to limit and reduce the prevalence of addicting substances. Reducing violence is, in of itself, a good thing.

With that I agree but the article states that alcohol and drugs are not to blame for domestic violence.

[Wallenburg]

That doesn't mean that we shouldn't launch efforts to limit and reduce the prevalence of addicting substances. Reducing violence is, in of itself, a good thing.

With that I agree but the article states that alcohol and drugs are not to blame for domestic violence.

I don't recall saying anything about domestic violence.

[Blakullar]

I can think of many reasons to get a revolution started in the UK, but I'm afraid I can't say that a profound lack of dope is one of them, as much as I would like drugs to be decriminalised.

[Novaja Zemlja]

With that I agree but the article states that alcohol and drugs are not to blame for domestic violence.

I don't recall saying anything about domestic violence.

The study says that adrugs are not the cause of aggressiveness.

[Noraika]

Nope, drugs are nothing to have a revolution over.
Alcohol, Tobacco, Narcotics, are all things which cause more trouble than good in society.

The policy of the state should be to reduce the usage of these substances to the greatest degrees possible.
Partially by taking a note from the Portuguese, and focusing on rehabilitation and therapy for addicts of all kinds, but also by looking at the causes and reasons in which people use said substances, such as stress, peer pressure, and others, and also cracking down on the avenues for illegal substances to enter the country, and homegrown production of said substances. In addition, information campaigns, education, and propaganda can all be effectively used to turn society against such substances.

Strict regulation of alcohol and tobacco, which makes it difficult but not impossible to obtain, and strict regulation and oversight of the production of food that contains alcohol, as well as very high taxes on alcohol, and such foods, can also be used to restrict access and consumption.

The long-term goal of the state should be properly tailoured into the plan for the phasing out of alcohol, tobacco, and the currently illegal substances - only permitting them for medical use when applicable and other more effective and direct treatment is not an option - as well as working to address other forms of unhealthy addiction that are drug and non-drug related alike.

[Wallenburg]

I don't recall saying anything about domestic violence.

The study says that adrugs are not the cause of aggressiveness.

I cite drug cartels as counter-evidence. I am also confused why you mention domestic violence when the study refers to aggression.

[Novaja Zemlja]

The study says that adrugs are not the cause of aggressiveness.

I cite drug cartels as counter-evidence. I am also confused why you mention domestic violence when the study refers to aggression.

Cartels spread drugs and criminality, not the substance self that causes aggressiveness.

Because the study was specifically meant for domestic violence but came to the conclusion that aggression in general is not caused by drugs.

[San Frelli]

GIVE ME KUSH OR GIVE ME DEATH!

Yeah, no.

[Benomia 3]

The study says that adrugs are not the cause of aggressiveness.

I cite drug cartels as counter-evidence. I am also confused why you mention domestic violence when the study refers to aggression.

Cartels literally only exist because of prohibition. Legalize drugs and the cartels disappear.

[Gauthier]

I cite drug cartels as counter-evidence. I am also confused why you mention domestic violence when the study refers to aggression.

Cartels literally only exist because of prohibition. Legalize drugs and the cartels disappear.

Cartels would be theoretically opposed to legalization because that would lower the price they could charge for their goods.

[Benomia 3]

Cartels literally only exist because of prohibition. Legalize drugs and the cartels disappear.

Cartels would be theoretically opposed to legalization because that would lower the price they could charge for their goods.

Yeah and bartenders would be theoretically opposed to prohibition because that would lower the income they could make off of patrons. Both of these statements are true, and both are equally irrelevant to the topic at hand.

[Gauthier]

Cartels would be theoretically opposed to legalization because that would lower the price they could charge for their goods.

Yeah and bartenders would be theoretically opposed to prohibition because that would lower the income they could make off of patrons. Both of these statements are true, and both are equally irrelevant to the topic at hand.

And how many organized crime families are making money off bootlegging today?

[The Norgan Alliance]

I cite drug cartels as counter-evidence. I am also confused why you mention domestic violence when the study refers to aggression.

Cartels literally only exist because of prohibition. Legalize drugs and the cartels disappear.

Couldn't Cartels just set up shop as "legitimate businesses"?

[Lydenburg]

Mushroom, why don't you and your Kult of Kefka/madness/banning everything lul go and rise up while I wait back here with the getaway car? Don't worry, I'll be right behind you.