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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:51 pm

San Lumen wrote:Why would any employer in their right mind do that?

The same reason any self-respecting university campus has at least one Starbucks per acre.
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legalized in education policies

Postby DIATOMEA » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:53 pm

legalisation is obvious.
education policies should even be voted for introduction of " kwonledge and experimentation of drugs" in 15 years old and more.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:54 pm

I do think drug legalization needs to happen, really soon, and I'm not averse to insurrection, but I don't think we need to revolt on a whim over this issue.
The Two Jerseys wrote:No, it would be illegal and a threat to public order.

:( because law = morality and public order = priority now, hmm?
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:56 pm

why would you want to make cocaine, lSD, PCP, meth, heroin and other drugs legal? they do nothing but cause serious harm
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:58 pm

San Lumen wrote:why would you want to make cocaine, lSD, PCP, meth, heroin and other drugs legal? they do nothing but cause serious harm

Because drug use is seen as a criminal issue and not a public health issue.
And other reasons.

Most users, when using recreationally, don't suffer ill effects. Habitual users probably need medical help.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:00 pm

San Lumen wrote:why would you want to make cocaine, lSD, PCP, meth, heroin and other drugs legal? they do nothing but cause serious harm

Nope.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:59 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
San Lumen wrote:why would you want to make cocaine, lSD, PCP, meth, heroin and other drugs legal? they do nothing but cause serious harm

Nope.


they do. I've seen the effects in my own community. What purpose do cocaine, PCP, meth and heroin serve? do tell

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Postby Geilinor » Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:00 pm

Wat.

IM is normally enthusiastic about bans.

He wants to legalize things now?
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:01 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:a good causus belli for revolution?


It'd be the most moronic, the most insane, and the most stupid reason for a revolt that I've ever seen.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:05 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Nope.

they do. I've seen the effects in my own community. What purpose do cocaine, PCP, meth and heroin serve? do tell

Nope. Answers are all there.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:35 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I do think drug legalization needs to happen, really soon, and I'm not averse to insurrection, but I don't think we need to revolt on a whim over this issue.
The Two Jerseys wrote:No, it would be illegal and a threat to public order.

:( because law = morality and public order = priority now, hmm?

No, because that was IM's exact response to the question of whether a revolution would be justified if the government started tracking the movements of cars:
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Revolution would be against the law?

Yes.

Treason, Revolution, etc etc is against the law.

But if you didn't know, here in the real world, people break laws. A revolution at that point would be entirely justified.


No it would be illegal and a threat to public order


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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:50 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I do think drug legalization needs to happen, really soon, and I'm not averse to insurrection, but I don't think we need to revolt on a whim over this issue.

:( because law = morality and public order = priority now, hmm?

No, because that was IM's exact response to the question of whether a revolution would be justified if the government started tracking the movements of cars.

Ah, I see. My apologies. Good turn of that statement.
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Postby Hladgos » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:52 pm

What the feck. All drugs should be banned. They are a threat to the productivity of industrialized society.
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Postby Yedmnrutika Gavr » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:52 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:a good causus belli for revolution?


It'd be the most moronic, the most insane, and the most stupid reason for a revolt that I've ever seen.


its stupid to revolt for something that makes you happy? drugs are a pretty important part of some peoples lives. in many cultures past it was widely accepted to smoke drugs only recently do we have this idea that we can demand others not do some drug. i think it is absolutely reason for revolt when it comes to your own body and happiness because those freedoms are essential to a good life.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:53 pm

Hladgos wrote:What the feck. All drugs should be banned. They are a threat to the productivity of industrialized society.

Praying this is sarcasm.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:53 pm

Hladgos wrote:What the feck. All drugs should be banned. They are a threat to the productivity of industrialized society.


So you're going to fight to make coffee illegal?

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Postby Hladgos » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:56 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Hladgos wrote:What the feck. All drugs should be banned. They are a threat to the productivity of industrialized society.

Praying this is sarcasm.

In fact, individuals who are affected by drugs tend to be more sarcastic than those who never do them. In fact, sarcasm is such a waste of an intelligent species time that I suggest children be taught a new method of communication that is compact and efficient. And that DARE be given military weaponry.
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Postby Luziyca » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:12 pm

It is not a cause for revolution.

That is the 420th time I had to comment on this matter.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:12 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Hladgos wrote:What the feck. All drugs should be banned. They are a threat to the productivity of industrialized society.


So you're going to fight to make coffee illegal?

You may have my coffee and alcohol when you take it from my cold dead hands in the wasteland that used to be my property.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:18 pm

Galloism wrote:
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So you're going to fight to make coffee illegal?

You may have my coffee and alcohol when you take it from my cold dead hands in the wasteland that used to be my property.


*prepares the gun I'm most familiar with*

Is something with a 105mm bore too much for you to deal with?

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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:18 pm

Yedmnrutika Gavr wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
It'd be the most moronic, the most insane, and the most stupid reason for a revolt that I've ever seen.


its stupid to revolt for something that makes you happy? drugs are a pretty important part of some peoples lives. in many cultures past it was widely accepted to smoke drugs only recently do we have this idea that we can demand others not do some drug. i think it is absolutely reason for revolt when it comes to your own body and happiness because those freedoms are essential to a good life.


Uprooting society, spilling blood, and thrusting millions of people into turmoil because you want to get high is absolute and bullshit idiocy. It makes far more sense to do it, albeit the more slow way, by using legislative policies to loosen up drug laws, not fuck with lives because you can't get a snort.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:19 pm

Hladgos wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Praying this is sarcasm.

In fact, individuals who are affected by drugs tend to be more sarcastic than those who never do them. In fact, sarcasm is such a waste of an intelligent species time that I suggest children be taught a new method of communication that is compact and efficient. And that DARE be given military weaponry.

All right then. :P Sorry, I've seen people say that kind of shit in seriousness. Can never tell these days.
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Postby Hladgos » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:20 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Hladgos wrote:In fact, individuals who are affected by drugs tend to be more sarcastic than those who never do them. In fact, sarcasm is such a waste of an intelligent species time that I suggest children be taught a new method of communication that is compact and efficient. And that DARE be given military weaponry.

All right then. :P Sorry, I've seen people say that kind of shit in seriousness. Can never tell these days.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:20 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Galloism wrote:You may have my coffee and alcohol when you take it from my cold dead hands in the wasteland that used to be my property.

*prepares the gun I'm most familiar with*

Is something with a 105mm bore too much for you to deal with?

Depends. How many amphetamines are we allowed?
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Postby Korhal IVV » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:40 am

Mmmm maybe legalize the drugs for medical purposes, but if they just want to get high, limit the amount of drugs one can buy to prevent over dosage and ban that stuff for students.

And... Making a damn revolution just because some hippies want to get high now is utter garbage.
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