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Should all furniture items be restricted to 10lbs/4.5kg?

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Postby Sino nations » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:17 pm

Ciliath wrote:This is a satire, and a damn good one at that.

Like "Boxing should be banned" By Infected Mushroom or "WA elite" by bitely?

My opinion on topic:Also, no.If approximately 40 people have died of Furniture, then next move would be ban Toilets.
Because toilets are death monsters.
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Postby Empire of Donner land » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:18 pm

United Kingdom of Poland wrote:you know what would be easier, teaching people to lift the proper way.

Lifting itself causes health problems in the long term.

Ban lifting.
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Postby Valystria » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:18 pm

United Kingdom of Poland wrote:you know what would be easier, teaching people to lift the proper way.

There should be informational pamphlets on that included with the purchase of furniture.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:19 pm

Gallo, you can't possibly tell me that you're still going to let the incompetent peons assemble Ikea furniture by themselves! That work should be performed by licensed contractors, because safety!
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Postby Galloism » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:19 pm

Sino nations wrote:
Ciliath wrote:This is a satire, and a damn good one at that.

Like "Boxing should be banned" By Infected Mushroom or "WA elite" by bitely?

My opinion on topic:Also, no.If approximately 40 people have died of Furniture, then next move would be ban Toilets.
Because toilets are death monsters.
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Toilet safety reform could be a valid cause in the proper thread dedicated to such. Toilets, however, are not so much furniture as fixtures.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:19 pm

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Postby Valystria » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:19 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:Gallo, you can't possibly tell me that you're still going to let the incompetent peons assemble Ikea furniture by themselves! That work should be performed by licensed contractors, because safety!

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Postby Grand Britannia » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:21 pm

Valystria wrote:
United Kingdom of Poland wrote:you know what would be easier, teaching people to lift the proper way.

There should be informational pamphlets on that included with the purchase of furniture.


They have "Team Lift" on a pretty big print right on the box.

They already tell you to lift with your legs not back.
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It does due to the impossibility of all furniture being limited to a ridiculous weight ceiling, and even if we had the materials for it no one is gonna buy them because they're bloody expensive for the common folk.

Government subsidies should help with the upfront costs, but with mass production the price of carbon nanotube furniture should come down.


Gallo pls subsidies is still us paying for it.
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Postby Rock Lobsters » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:21 pm

Valystria wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Gallo, you can't possibly tell me that you're still going to let the incompetent peons assemble Ikea furniture by themselves! That work should be performed by licensed contractors, because safety!

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:22 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:I think the regulation may have merit, but periodic mandatory inspections is unnecessary. Simply make it so the owner is at fault if someone is injured by their furniture and that furniture weighs above 10 pounds.

Is it not the fault of the manufacturer for knowingly supplying furniture exceeding the legal weight limit of furniture?
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Postby Galloism » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:23 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:Gallo, you can't possibly tell me that you're still going to let the incompetent peons assemble Ikea furniture by themselves! That work should be performed by licensed contractors, because safety!

Well, we can't really tell from the statistics how many were injured/killed during assembly vs moving/standing.

For safeties sake, we should probably ban self-assembly for anything over 5lbs.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:23 pm

Valystria wrote:
United Kingdom of Poland wrote:because for a large number of furniture items this is flat out impossible without either:
A. weakening its structural integrity
B. making it impossible to use for its intended purpose.

That is why the weight targets can be gradual and phased in as the technology allows for it.

And let people die while technology progresses? No, better to just ban furniture entirely until we can wire people into some kind of Matrix-esque virtual reality and keep them safe from everything forever.
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Postby Valystria » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:23 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
Valystria wrote:There should be informational pamphlets on that included with the purchase of furniture.


They have "Team Lift" on a pretty big print right on the box.

They already tell you to lift with your legs not back.

And apparently that isn't sufficient information.

Galloism wrote:
Sino nations wrote:Like "Boxing should be banned" By Infected Mushroom or "WA elite" by bitely?

My opinion on topic:Also, no.If approximately 40 people have died of Furniture, then next move would be ban Toilets.
Because toilets are death monsters.
Look!

Toilet safety reform could be a valid cause in the proper thread dedicated to such. Toilets, however, are not so much furniture as fixtures.

I'd be interested in having the OP respond to this post;

Valystria wrote:
Galloism wrote:Furniture, plus the things it is holding (other than beds), should be restricted to 15 pounds. There will be periodic mandatory in-home inspections to ensure furniture owners are not overloading their furniture where it can cause a danger to themselves and others. We can establish a federal agency with broad authority to enter homes and weigh furniture and its contents at any time of day or night.

These random home inspections would carry immense secondary benefits to society. No longer would people casually leave their apartments or homes in a mess, as they wouldn't want to risk having the mess seen during an unexpected inspection. Parents would raise their children more appropriately knowing that at any moment a home inspector could show up. We would all live our lives better knowing that home inspectors will periodically show up to ensure our furniture remains within regulatory limits.

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Postby Galloism » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:25 pm

Valystria wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
They have "Team Lift" on a pretty big print right on the box.

They already tell you to lift with your legs not back.

And apparently that isn't sufficient information.

Galloism wrote:Toilet safety reform could be a valid cause in the proper thread dedicated to such. Toilets, however, are not so much furniture as fixtures.

I'd be interested in having the OP respond to this post;

Valystria wrote:
These random home inspections would carry immense secondary benefits to society. No longer would people casually leave their apartments or homes in a mess, as they wouldn't want to risk having the mess seen during an unexpected inspection. Parents would raise their children more appropriately knowing that at any moment a home inspector could show up. We would all live our lives better knowing that home inspectors will periodically show up to ensure our furniture remains within regulatory limits.

It confirms to me what I've long suspected but was never truly sure.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:26 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Valystria wrote:That is why the weight targets can be gradual and phased in as the technology allows for it.

And let people die while technology progresses? No, better to just ban furniture entirely until we can wire people into some kind of Matrix-esque virtual reality and keep them safe from everything forever.

Honestly, my plan will act as a virtual ban on dangerous furniture. The market will figure out a way to comply in time as technology progresses, creating new highly skilled jobs.
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New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Valystria » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:27 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Valystria wrote:That is why the weight targets can be gradual and phased in as the technology allows for it.

And let people die while technology progresses? No, better to just ban furniture entirely until we can wire people into some kind of Matrix-esque virtual reality and keep them safe from everything forever.

It's important to weigh the net benefits of policy proposals. Banning furniture entirely would be of less benefit than creating weight regulations for various categories of furniture.

Galloism wrote:
Valystria wrote:And apparently that isn't sufficient information.


I'd be interested in having the OP respond to this post;


It confirms to me what I've long suspected but was never truly sure.

All you're confirming is that you've made a thread without having any interest in discussing the thread topic. If anything you're projecting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:27 pm

I would like to chair the committee in charge of inspections.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:28 pm

If you can't follow simple instructions such as "have someone help you carry it" or "properly lift with your legs" then the problem is probably not with the manufacturer.
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Postby Empire of Donner land » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:28 pm

Galloism wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And let people die while technology progresses? No, better to just ban furniture entirely until we can wire people into some kind of Matrix-esque virtual reality and keep them safe from everything forever.

Honestly, my plan will act as a virtual ban on dangerous furniture. The market will figure out a way to comply in time as technology progresses, creating new highly skilled jobs.

Everyone knows that highly skilled jobs need fancy spinny chairs.

What about those?
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Postby Galloism » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:28 pm

Valystria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And let people die while technology progresses? No, better to just ban furniture entirely until we can wire people into some kind of Matrix-esque virtual reality and keep them safe from everything forever.

It's important to weigh the net benefits of policy proposals. Banning furniture entirely would be of less benefit than creating weight regulations for various categories of furniture.

Galloism wrote:It confirms to me what I've long suspected but was never truly sure.

All you're confirming is that you've made a thread without having any interest in discussing the thread topic. If anything you're projecting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

You clearly haven't ascertained the true purpose of this thread.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:29 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:I would like to chair the committee in charge of inspections.


That was awful :lol:
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Postby Galloism » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:29 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:I would like to chair the committee in charge of inspections.

There will be pillows provided for you to sit on.
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Mandatory helmets would also solve this issue without unduly impacting the economy, and would have other ancillary benefits while keeping the cost of the bureaucracy smaller. For America, this would also add more deterrence to invasion if you made the helmets military grade, since this would mean that along with firearms, invading armies would have to deal with armored civilians.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:30 pm

Without heavy loads the moving industry would be put out of business.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:30 pm

Galloism wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:I would like to chair the committee in charge of inspections.

There will be pillows provided for you to sit on.


A comfy chair, I didn't expect that!
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