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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:08 pm
by Quokkastan
Saiwania wrote:
Zaldakki wrote:So what made you think this would make sense?


I have heard about this theoretical procedure where the genes for skin color can be artificially changed to another race's regardless of an infant's parentage, it could work but hasn't been tried before. I might have confused the two.

Now if what this topic is about were true, it would affect a person's phenotype but would leave their genotype alone. It will only be a cosmetic change. It would still be a remarkable achievement either way. But it hasn't panned out and might never.

You know... you can just bleach the skin. That technology has existed for like a century now.

...why am I encouraging you?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:16 pm
by Saiwania
Quokkastan wrote:You know... you can just bleach the skin. That technology has existed for like a century now.


I've seen great tans but never good skin bleaches, I'm not sure if it's possible to get a good result with that. Yeah, it is time I recused myself. This topic is debunked anyways.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:12 pm
by Kahanistan
I'm beginning to wonder if Trey Parker and Matt Stone weren't making a prophecy when they ran the episode of South Park with the negroplasty. Hopefully this doesn't mean we'll be seeing shark people walking the streets in 20 or 30 years.

Seriously, though, I don't see how using surgery to alter apparent racial characteristics is any more or less ethical than gender reassignment procedures. In fact since they're just changing skin colour and not mutilating their genitalia it seems significantly less radical. Now is there a way to put more melanin cells in the skin to turn white people black? Given the accomplishments of plastic surgery adding an epicanthic fold to the eyelid to create an East Asian appearance or widening the nose for a more stereotypical African appearance probably isn't extremely difficult either.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:16 pm
by Napkiraly
Kahanistan wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if Trey Parker and Matt Stone weren't making a prophecy when they ran the episode of South Park with the negroplasty. Hopefully this doesn't mean we'll be seeing shark people walking the streets in 20 or 30 years.

Seriously, though, I don't see how using surgery to alter apparent racial characteristics is any more or less ethical than gender reassignment procedures. In fact since they're just changing skin colour and not mutilating their genitalia it seems significantly less radical. Now is there a way to put more melanin cells in the skin to turn white people black? Given the accomplishments of plastic surgery adding an epicanthic fold to the eyelid to create an East Asian appearance or widening the nose for a more stereotypical African appearance probably isn't extremely difficult either.

You know the story in the OP is bullshit, right?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:35 pm
by Kahanistan
I got suspicious when I saw on the side of the article a link claiming a condemned paedophile cannibal in Texas got a little girl shipped in from Africa for his last meal. Technology to alter human phenotypes sounds infinitely more plausible, however.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:04 pm
by Baltenstein
Isn't this a hoax?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:16 pm
by Zaldakki
Baltenstein wrote:Isn't this a hoax?

Yes

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:19 pm
by Cinia
Alright, so I feel like this is a good time to butt in and get this mess back on track. I will refer back to the OP for this. I have not read all pages that this thread entails but god damn if it went to trash really fast from what I've seen. The OP gave the questions, "Should they be allowed to do this?" Instead, I see everyone went on their own path and decided to Mythbust this topic even though that was never the idea at hand and it doesn't really matter whether or not it's real. So please everyone, let's take each others hands and calmly get back on topic on the question that was posted at the beginning of the thread, in the OP.
*sigh*

Thank you.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:23 pm
by Cinia
Reading back over my post I just made, I realized I didn't post my own opinion on the question. I honestly don't know about this one. I'm kinda leaning on the side of, if the person wants to then go for it. I'm like that on a lot of issues really. Kind of a short answer, but idk lol

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:39 pm
by Kelinfort
Saiwania wrote:If this is true, I might finally not have any excuse to be racist. A tremendous weight will be lifted from my shoulders if I don't have to worry about the White extinction scenario anymore. But my life so far will have been for naught. :(

A tremendous weight will be lifted from my shoulders if I don't have to worry about the White extinction scenario anymore.


...get your priorities straight, man.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:46 pm
by The Liberated Territories
That's great. Once this is universalized, there will be no more racism, because everyone will be white. Yay!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:56 pm
by Liberty and Linguistics
Kelinfort wrote:
Saiwania wrote:If this is true, I might finally not have any excuse to be racist. A tremendous weight will be lifted from my shoulders if I don't have to worry about the White extinction scenario anymore. But my life so far will have been for naught. :(

A tremendous weight will be lifted from my shoulders if I don't have to worry about the White extinction scenario anymore.


...get your priorities straight, man.


Really.

I find it a bit...strange...when non politicians worry about politics more than anything else.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:37 am
by Wisconsin9
Cinia wrote:Alright, so I feel like this is a good time to butt in and get this mess back on track. I will refer back to the OP for this. I have not read all pages that this thread entails but god damn if it went to trash really fast from what I've seen. The OP gave the questions, "Should they be allowed to do this?" Instead, I see everyone went on their own path and decided to Mythbust this topic even though that was never the idea at hand and it doesn't really matter whether or not it's real. So please everyone, let's take each others hands and calmly get back on topic on the question that was posted at the beginning of the thread, in the OP.
*sigh*

Thank you.

The question in the OP is irrelevant, since the premise it's based on is quite clearly nonsense.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:18 am
by Bezkoshtovnya
Sino nations wrote:SCINECE!

"We're all about coulda, not shoulda!"

Anima Gentem wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."


I gave my source so go elsewhere if you're not gonna contribute or even try to give counter evidence

Disregarding the fact that your "source" was essentially the Onion, and that the burden of proof is on you, yes. it's fake.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:18 am
by Yuketobaniac unions
The Wolven League wrote:Good to know scientists of the world have their priorities straight.

Cancer killing millions? Find a way to make black people white.

Becuz fuck Cancer comrade i can make people white

PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:20 am
by Kathmandue
That looks painful.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:21 am
by The Conez Imperium
Kahanistan wrote:I got suspicious when I saw on the side of the article a link claiming a condemned paedophile cannibal in Texas got a little girl shipped in from Africa for his last meal. Technology to alter human phenotypes sounds infinitely more plausible, however.


Oh, so I'm not the only person who saw that advertisement. Rather disturbing...

PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:41 pm
by Shofercia
Anima Gentem wrote:Sorry for the title as what I wanted to put would be too long but apparently Russian scientists have figured out how to remove the black layer of skin from black people http://nordpresse.be/russian-laboratory-invented-way-remove-black-skin-layer/. Personally, I'm alright with that. I don't think just anyone should just go having this process done since it would be irreversible. But if someone truly doesn't identify with being black then, after being educated that there's no going back, I think they should have the right to make themselves into what they wish to be. What do you think NS?


My opinion: it's most likely fake, but if it's not, then it's a waste of research funds.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:28 am
by USS Monitor
The Tabula Rasa Islands wrote:
Anima Gentem wrote:Sorry for the title as what I wanted to put would be too long but apparently Russian scientists have figured out how to remove the black layer of skin from black people?

WTF? You make it sound like black people are coated with something, where as other people aren't


Maybe it's armor.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:29 am
by Hladgos
Can they bring back the king of pop instead? And why would this even be any kind of relevant at all? Unless they're going on a genocidal forced whitening spree, who cares?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:30 am
by St Nevis And Kitts
This is a lie

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:32 am
by USS Monitor
Saiwania wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:The way I look at it is this: Race can be an important topic when it's in context, but on NSG, and in the real world, it's often tied into things far too often. Whether far rightists are blaming blacks for "riots and crime" or whether or not left wingers are blaming "white privilege and oppression" for everything, it's all just fucking stupid.


I don't like the BLM message or platform from what I can discern from looking at their list of demands, but I do acknowledge that they have a very valid reason for existing. There is a problem with White police officers killing Blacks as a first resort. It doesn't seem to extend to other racial groups, so Blacks are getting disproportionate abuse. It seems that Blacks were always disadvantaged because duh- they're in the minority but for whatever reason; it seems to have gotten especially bad this year.

Did White cops shooting Blacks out of hand always happen over decades and got covered up but is finally getting media exposure, or is there a sudden spike in Black killings by White police? Black neighborhoods need a police presence like anywhere else, but clearly having White cops do so would be a provocation at this point.

My proposal is for Black police officers to be recruited expressly for this purpose, but it'd be decried as racist. Would it not be the best choice to go with instead of say, Asian or Hispanic police officers? If the police force is visibly Black in majority Black locations, it should regain some trust.


Thanks for posting something totally relevant to the topic of the thread. We definitely needed this. :roll:

There hasn't been a sudden spike in police brutality against black suspects. It's an old problem that has just recently gotten more attention. You really couldn't figure that out yourself?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:43 am
by USS Monitor
Saiwania wrote:
Quokkastan wrote:You know... you can just bleach the skin. That technology has existed for like a century now.


I've seen great tans but never good skin bleaches, I'm not sure if it's possible to get a good result with that. Yeah, it is time I recused myself. This topic is debunked anyways.


Visit China. They have lots of skin-lightening creams.

It looks pretty comical when someone uses a lot of it on their face, but nowhere else on their body.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:24 pm
by Trumpostan
Is this like that thing they tried in South Africa where they would invent a bomb of some kind that would kill only black people.

Either this is total BS or the world just got even more weird.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:51 pm
by Zottistan
Ignoring how completely useless this is and the possible creepy racial undertones, this is so fucking cool.

Shame it isn't true. Awww.