Left-Wing Discussion Thread

[Exelia]

Do you hate men?

Do you think that Feminists hate men?

No. Do you think non-feminists hate women?

[Atlanticatia]

Do you hate women?

Only feminists who wish to use the government to forward their agenda.

It's not like men make up the vast majority of elected officials, high-level government officials, policy advisors, etc etc. But I guess women are 'using the government to forward their agenda' when a Congress that is 80% male debates reproductive rights. Pressuring a mostly-male government to listen to women is ebul feminazism, definitely.

[Vashtanaraada]

Do you hate men?

Do you think that Feminists hate men?

Radical feminists do, don't even edge your way outta that one Chess.
All other feminists pretty much don't hate men. Otherwise I wouldn't be a socialist feminist.

[Arkolon]

Would seriously appreciate left-wing feedback on this, this, and this. Amazing I only got two replies on that (albeit slightly orthodox) Marxist interpretation of society and capitalism, especially in this thread.

[Fanosolia]

Do you think that Feminists hate men?

Radical feminists do, don't even edge your way outta that one Chess.
All other feminists pretty much don't hate men. Otherwise I wouldn't be a socialist feminist.

Hey I remember taking a test awhile back about feminism and it was the first time I heard the term. What's it about? is it like the class struggle side of feminism?

[Geilinor]

Radical feminists do, don't even edge your way outta that one Chess.
All other feminists pretty much don't hate men. Otherwise I wouldn't be a socialist feminist.

Hey I remember taking a test awhile back about feminism and it was the first time I heard the term. What's it about? is it like the class struggle side of feminism?

Gender struggle, sure. I've seen feminists take "How misogynist are you?" tests and boast about their high scores on Facebook.

[Fanosolia]

Hey I remember taking a test awhile back about feminism and it was the first time I heard the term. What's it about? is it like the class struggle side of feminism?

Gender struggle, sure. I've seen feminists take "How misogynist are you?" tests and boast about their high scores on Facebook.

Oh I see. Not it wasn't that test, it was more like "what kind of feminists are you?" sort of thing. I think it helped me better understand the movement better as a result.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Yes how dare women get involved in the political process.

This goes for anyone that wishes to use the gun of the government.

What about the gun of the people?

[Geilinor]

This goes for anyone that wishes to use the gun of the government.

What about the gun of the people?

Tyranny of the majority is a problem too. There has to be a constitutional limit.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

What about the gun of the people?

Tyranny of the majority is a problem too. There has to be a constitutional limit.

I totally agree. Freedom should extend to its furthest point - until it infringes on that of another.

[Atlanticatia]

This goes for anyone that wishes to use the gun of the government.

What about the gun of the people?

Government of the people, by the people, for the people.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

What about the gun of the people?

Government of the people, by the people, for the people.

Government of and by the people cannot exist as a State.

[Geilinor]

Government of the people, by the people, for the people.

Government of and by the people cannot exist as a State.

Why?

[Tafhan]

Why are Trotskyists not liked by other Leftists? I think I heard that somewhere while lurking /leftypol/ at some point

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Why are Trotskyists not liked by other Leftists? I think I heard that somewhere while lurking /leftypol/ at some point

Because to Marxists, Trotsky was a opportunist Menshevik liberal revisionist traitor. And because he crushed insurrectionary Ukraine for anarchists.

He was just a pretty shitty guy, to everyone but Trots.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Government of and by the people cannot exist as a State.

Why?

Because a State is a unit separate from the people with power over them. It's a political class. They can claim to be for the people, but never are in practice.

My main issue with Marxism, actually.

[Socialist Tera]

Do you think that Feminists hate men?

Radical feminists do, don't even edge your way outta that one Chess.
All other feminists pretty much don't hate men. Otherwise I wouldn't be a socialist feminist.

Chess does not hate men, from my experience, I agree with some of the policies as she said. I agree more with Marxist Feminist but I am sick of people calling me "self-hating" for agree with feminism.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Radical feminists do, don't even edge your way outta that one Chess.
All other feminists pretty much don't hate men. Otherwise I wouldn't be a socialist feminist.

Chess does not hate men, from my experience, I agree with some of the policies as she said. I agree more with Marxist Feminist but I am sick of people calling me "self-hating" for agree with feminism.

Chess is a TERF. I wouldn't identify with her, as a feminist myself.

[Socialist Tera]

Chess does not hate men, from my experience, I agree with some of the policies as she said. I agree more with Marxist Feminist but I am sick of people calling me "self-hating" for agree with feminism.

Chess is a TERF. I wouldn't identify with her, as a feminist myself.

I didn't know she is a terf, bit disappointed to be honest. I have agreed with her on other stances but this stance upsets me because I am highly supportive of the trans movement.

[Tafhan]

Why are Trotskyists not liked by other Leftists? I think I heard that somewhere while lurking /leftypol/ at some point

Because to Marxists, Trotsky was a opportunist Menshevik liberal revisionist traitor. And because he crushed insurrectionary Ukraine for anarchists.

He was just a pretty shitty guy, to everyone but Trots.

How was he a "liberal revisionist" though?

[The Krogan]

Finally! I've been waiting for this thread all my life, you see, I've always preferred the left-wing to the right-wing, I'm not sure if it's a difference in texture or maybe the taste itself.... Oh... wait.... This isn't that type of thread is it.... I'll just show myself to the door.... *slinks away with tears in his eyes*

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Because to Marxists, Trotsky was a opportunist Menshevik liberal revisionist traitor. And because he crushed insurrectionary Ukraine for anarchists.

He was just a pretty shitty guy, to everyone but Trots.

How was he a "liberal revisionist" though?

Liberal because he was a Menshevik, and decided to side with the Bolsheviks when he saw which way the tide was turning. And do you know what revisionism is? It's kind of centered around being pro-Trotsky.

[Tafhan]

How was he a "liberal revisionist" though?

Liberal because he was a Menshevik, and decided to side with the Bolsheviks when he saw which way the tide was turning. And do you know what revisionism is? It's kind of centered around being pro-Trotsky.

Yes. I know what it is. I myself was a (bad) Maoist for a short, very blurry amount of time. And I understand how he was some sort of revisionist, of course.

But I fail to see how Trotsky was Liberal (in the sense of economic Liberalism, as I assume you mean). The Mensheviks were very Orthodox Marxists, initially.

[Singaporean Transhumans]

Liberal because he was a Menshevik, and decided to side with the Bolsheviks when he saw which way the tide was turning. And do you know what revisionism is? It's kind of centered around being pro-Trotsky.

Yes. I know what it is. And I understand how he was some sort of revisionist, of course.

But I fail to see how Trotsky was Liberal (in the sense of economic Liberalism, as I assume you mean).

'Liberal', at least from what I've seen in China, is a term thrown around slapped on anyone with remotely deviating tendencies.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Liberal because he was a Menshevik, and decided to side with the Bolsheviks when he saw which way the tide was turning. And do you know what revisionism is? It's kind of centered around being pro-Trotsky.

Yes. I know what it is. And I understand how he was some sort of revisionist, of course.

But I fail to see how Trotsky was Liberal (in the sense of economic Liberalism, as I assume you mean).

That's not what I mean. Liberalism kind of means something different and wider to Marxists and far-left people in general.