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Postby The Republic of American Freedom » Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:58 pm

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The Republic of American Freedom wrote:Restore Constantinople! Remove Kebab!

Yeah, it's on that level of craziness.

Honestly I would love Constantinople back in Greek hands.
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Postby Unnamed island state » Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:59 pm

The Republic of American Freedom wrote:
Unnamed island state wrote:Yeah, it's on that level of craziness.

Honestly I would love Constantinople back in Greek hands.

In the times when the population was over 50% non Turk, that might have been acceptable. Now it isn't.
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Postby Ciliath » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:00 pm

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Unnamed island state wrote:
:roll: what?

I'm hoping that the conflict with the PKK will get rid of Erdogan, but it's not going to destabilize the country to that extent. If Russia attacks they'll actually get the punishment they deserve, so they are not going to conquer Istanbul. It confuses me that you'd think that's a positive thing.

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Postby The Republic of American Freedom » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:01 pm

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The Republic of American Freedom wrote:Honestly I would love Constantinople back in Greek hands.

In the times when the population was over 50% non Turk, that might have been acceptable. Now it isn't.

We can always have a population exchange just like in the 1920's. The Turks go back to their Central Asian homeland and the Greeks take back their old territory.
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Postby Unnamed island state » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:03 pm

The Republic of American Freedom wrote:
Unnamed island state wrote:In the times when the population was over 50% non Turk, that might have been acceptable. Now it isn't.

We can always have a population exchange just like in the 1920's. The Turks go back to their Central Asian homeland and the Greeks take back their old territory.

First of all you don't understand the identity of most Turks living in Turkey. They're actually more related to native "Anatolians" (whether that be Greek or whatever) than they are Asian. So no. Turks living in Turkey are the least related to the original "Turks" out of any other group claiming to be Turks.

Secondly that's ridiculous and cruel.
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Postby The Republic of American Freedom » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:05 pm

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The Republic of American Freedom wrote:We can always have a population exchange just like in the 1920's. The Turks go back to their Central Asian homeland and the Greeks take back their old territory.

First of all you don't understand the ethnic identity of most Turks living in Turkey. They're actually more related to native "Anatolians" (whether that be Greek or whatever) than they are Asian. So no.

And anyway that sounds very much like a Dominican Republic type policy.

Haiti is so poor and useless that no one would care if they were annexed by the Dominican Republic, or by France.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:06 pm

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Income inequality, poverty, authoritarianism, and idolization of capital are running rampant. Singapore needs a few good riots.

Do you support the PKK? Seeing as how they are virtually anarchists and belittle the idea of a Kurdish state as "Kurdish Zionism".

I do support the PKK, and am quite open to their ideology. I am totally fine with the idea of a Kurdish state, but due to my general disdain for nationalism, I would also be all right with fully guaranteed rights for Kurds in all respective nations.

I also fully support the Rojava Revolution.
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Postby Morr » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:07 pm

Unnamed island state wrote:You're really buying in to the Russian mentality of "the people whose countries we annex love us."


No, I strongly oppose Russia's actions in the Ukraine, and I'm sure the people of the Ukraine don't love them. But it is true that the majority aren't nationalists, judging by their election results.

Russia is not stronk enough to go against NATO though.


That would cause a nuclear war.

And what are they trying to accomplish?...

Strengthening Wahhabist hegemony in the Middle East.
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Postby The Republic of American Freedom » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:08 pm

Unnamed island state wrote:
The Republic of American Freedom wrote:We can always have a population exchange just like in the 1920's. The Turks go back to their Central Asian homeland and the Greeks take back their old territory.

First of all you don't understand the identity of most Turks living in Turkey. They're actually more related to native "Anatolians" (whether that be Greek or whatever) than they are Asian. So no. Turks living in Turkey are the least related to the original "Turks" out of any other group claiming to be Turks.

Secondly that's ridiculous and cruel.

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Postby Morr » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:09 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Morr wrote:Do you support the PKK? Seeing as how they are virtually anarchists and belittle the idea of a Kurdish state as "Kurdish Zionism".

I do support the PKK, and am quite open to their ideology. I am totally fine with the idea of a Kurdish state, but due to my general disdain for nationalism, I would also be all right with fully guaranteed rights for Kurds in all respective nations.

I also fully support the Rojava Revolution.

Why do you think the U.S. is so hostile toward Rojava?
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Postby Unnamed island state » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:10 pm

Morr wrote:
Unnamed island state wrote:You're really buying in to the Russian mentality of "the people whose countries we annex love us."


No, I strongly oppose Russia's actions in the Ukraine, and I'm sure the people of the Ukraine don't love them. But it is true that the majority aren't nationalists, judging by their election results.

Are you referring to the polls in Crimea?

Nevertheless Donbass is a different situation.
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Russia is not stronk enough to go against NATO though.


That would cause a nuclear war.

Which is why Russia shouldn't try to conquer Istanbul.

Morr wrote:
And what are they trying to accomplish?...

Strengthening Wahhabist hegemony in the Middle East.

No they are not. Nobody gains from destabilizing the Middle East, many NATO member countries have been hurt by it a lot.
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Postby Morr » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:11 pm

The Republic of American Freedom wrote:
Unnamed island state wrote:Yeah, it's on that level of craziness.

Honestly I would love Constantinople back in Greek hands.

I worry about something that drastic, but I would like the Hagia Sophia returned and a lot more freedom for the Orthodox Church there, such as being allowed to have Orthodox schools, as well a new Turkey that is friendly to Greece.
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Postby Unnamed island state » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:12 pm

Morr wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I do support the PKK, and am quite open to their ideology. I am totally fine with the idea of a Kurdish state, but due to my general disdain for nationalism, I would also be all right with fully guaranteed rights for Kurds in all respective nations.

I also fully support the Rojava Revolution.

Why do you think the U.S. is so hostile toward Rojava?

How are they hostile towards Rojava?
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Postby The Republic of American Freedom » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:13 pm

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Morr wrote:Why do you think the U.S. is so hostile toward Rojava?

How are they hostile towards Rojava?

They oppose the partitioning of Syria (and Iraq)
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Postby Morr » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:14 pm

Unnamed island state wrote:Are you referring to the polls in Crimea?

Nevertheless Donbass is a different situation.


I'm referring to the elections leading up the crisis.

No they are not. Nobody gains from destabilizing the Middle East, many NATO member countries have been hurt by it a lot.


Yet Saudi Arabia and Turkey both openly back Jaish al-Fatah. And Saudi Arabia is the major exporter of Wahhabism, and NATO is lovebirds with them.
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Postby Morr » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:16 pm

Unnamed island state wrote:
Morr wrote:Why do you think the U.S. is so hostile toward Rojava?

How are they hostile towards Rojava?

http://kurdishquestion.com/index.php/ku ... o-who.html
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Postby Morr » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:17 pm

The Republic of American Freedom wrote:
Unnamed island state wrote:How are they hostile towards Rojava?

They oppose the partitioning of Syria (and Iraq)

Rojava is too, overall. They just want a sort of Indian Reservation deal.
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Postby Unnamed island state » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:18 pm

Morr wrote:Yet Saudi Arabia and Turkey both openly back Jaish al-Fatah. And Saudi Arabia is the major exporter of Wahhabism, and NATO is lovebirds with them.

That's because Saudi Arabia has oil.
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Postby The Republic of American Freedom » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:19 pm

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Morr wrote:Yet Saudi Arabia and Turkey both openly back Jaish al-Fatah. And Saudi Arabia is the major exporter of Wahhabism, and NATO is lovebirds with them.

That's because Saudi Arabia has oil.

Exactly, Saudi Arabia has us by the balls but they're not our friends or allies, they are the enemy.
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Postby Morr » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:19 pm

The Republic of American Freedom wrote:
Unnamed island state wrote:How are they hostile towards Rojava?

They oppose the partitioning of Syria (and Iraq)

Also, the U.S. will back the Iraq partition that Turkey is setting up under Barzani, I guarantee you. Barzani is Sunni and will be friendly to NATO, whereas Iraq is Shia and is getting much more chummy with Iran.
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Postby Morr » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:21 pm

Unnamed island state wrote:
Morr wrote:Yet Saudi Arabia and Turkey both openly back Jaish al-Fatah. And Saudi Arabia is the major exporter of Wahhabism, and NATO is lovebirds with them.

That's because Saudi Arabia has oil.

Yes. And I do not support their increasing influence and cancerous ideology gaining ground. Therefore I oppose them, Turkey and NATO in the Middle East. ISIS is their fault to begin with.
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Postby Unnamed island state » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:26 pm

Morr wrote:
The Republic of American Freedom wrote:They oppose the partitioning of Syria (and Iraq)

Also, the U.S. will back the Iraq partition that Turkey is setting up under Barzani, I guarantee you. Barzani is Sunni and will be friendly to NATO, whereas Iraq is Shia and is getting much more chummy with Iran.

And there's nothing wrong with Barzani.
Morr wrote:
Unnamed island state wrote:That's because Saudi Arabia has oil.

Yes. And I do not support their increasing influence and cancerous ideology gaining ground. Therefore I oppose them, Turkey and NATO in the Middle East. ISIS is their fault to begin with.

No, ISIS is the fault of NATO not Turkey.
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Postby The Republic of American Freedom » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:28 pm

Unnamed island state wrote:
Morr wrote:Also, the U.S. will back the Iraq partition that Turkey is setting up under Barzani, I guarantee you. Barzani is Sunni and will be friendly to NATO, whereas Iraq is Shia and is getting much more chummy with Iran.

And there's nothing wrong with Barzani.
Morr wrote:Yes. And I do not support their increasing influence and cancerous ideology gaining ground. Therefore I oppose them, Turkey and NATO in the Middle East. ISIS is their fault to begin with.

No, ISIS is the fault of NATO not Turkey.

Turkey certainly didn't stop all the foreign fighters from getting to Syria and Iraq. Also Turkey is part of NATO.
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Postby Morr » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:29 pm

Unnamed island state wrote:And there's nothing wrong with Barzani.


He's as corrupt as a mafia boss and appealed to Saddam to help him against Kurdish adversaries (which lead to the genocide of the Kurds).

Fault of NATO not Turkey.

Turkey is in NATO, bruh.
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Postby Unnamed island state » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:32 pm

The Republic of American Freedom wrote:
Unnamed island state wrote:And there's nothing wrong with Barzani.

No, ISIS is the fault of NATO not Turkey.

Turkey certainly didn't stop all the foreign fighters from getting to Syria and Iraq. Also Turkey is part of NATO.

Turkey wasn't instrumental in the invasion of Iraq, it wasn't their decision.
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